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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
maporsche
 
  6  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:28 am
@Cycloptichorn,
There was more evidence against Roy Moore, and she chose to hold off on judging him.
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maporsche
 
  6  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:29 am
Rex Tillerson said that Trump was an idiot, and he's working for the guy. Maybe he's secretly in the deep state and undermining Trump too.

I mean, facts are facts are facts.
Cycloptichorn
 
  5  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:33 am
@maporsche,
Gowdy was clearly biased against Hillary Clinton, yet saw fit to oversee an investigation against her for years. How come we don't see Lash calling for his head and claiming the whole investigation is 'tainted?'

Cycloptichorn
blatham
 
  5  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:36 am
@ehBeth,
Quote:
Also asked how it's possible that Fox News has 10k Strzok-Page texts when DOJ only gave Congress 375 texts.
This administration and Fox simply do not do collusion, ever, so it's not that.
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revelette1
 
  3  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:38 am
@maporsche,
If the shoe fits, Trump is an idiot, a dangerous one but an idiot all the same.
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revelette1
 
  3  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:40 am
@Benson-In-A-Box,
Cool Smile
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glitterbag
 
  5  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:44 am
@Cycloptichorn,
When Federal employees expressed negative thoughts or attitudes about Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, massive jerks like Jordan are frigging gleeful because they want to embrace it as proof of HRC or BHO’s criminal behaviour. But the consevative thought police believe no one else can be trusted. I wonder why that is? Never mind, I already know.
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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:48 am
@revelette1,
If one is a top political strategist for either party, an over-riding factor in what you decide to do during a general election is going to be fairly tightly constrained by the money available. You do not want to be wasting a lot of it.

On the other hand, it's far from ideal to just give up on a large portion of the population. We'd like to see a lot going on at the basic organization levels to prepare for the future, at least. But a problem for us here is that we really don't have a good grasp of what is going on organizationally. One discussion I see happening a lot this morning has to do with Jones' ground game. But other than some info on GOTV work, we can't see what was actually done (much of this is boring to most).

So there's a lot of necessary balancing and a lot going on out of sight. And then there's the significant problem of talking to an audience which is swimming in a bath of Limbaugh/Fox. It's a very complicated endeavor.
Brand X
 
  5  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:49 am
@Benson-In-A-Box,
Jones needs to wear a blue hat that says, 'Made America Great Again'.
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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:53 am
@ehBeth,
Yes. This is the way these people operate.
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BillW
 
  2  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:54 am
@blatham,
Don't forget that there has to be a competent nominee against someone who isn't a multi term incumbent. Politics has lots of offsetting strategies, most of the times today involving lots of money.
blatham
 
  4  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:55 am
@Benson-In-A-Box,
Quote:
And I’ll say I’m proud of the conservatives that held themselves to a higher standard. While there weren’t as many of them as I would have liked, those that said no mo(o)re did weigh heavily on this race.
This is an important and positive aspect to keep in mind.
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DrewDad
 
  2  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:56 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

IMO, the first step is to just get people on the damn ballots.

It's an indication to those voters that the Dems just don't care about them. If the Dems don't care enough to run someone for a local office, how much will they care if they're elected to congress, or the senate, or the presidency?

Update: Just saw an article that Dems have candidates in all Texas congressional races in 2018.
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DrewDad
 
  2  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:57 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Can anyone say they're a Democrat and run locally?

All of the ballots I recall from my time in West Texas listed party affiliation. A very few Dems, mostly Republicans, more Libertarians than Dems.
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 11:58 am
@BillW,
yes
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 12:02 pm
goodbye Omarosa

Quote:
AprilDRyan‏Verified account
@AprilDRyan

I heard there was drama and she was escorted out of the building and off campus
6:48 AM - 13 Dec 2017


New conversation

Sonnie McAleer‏
@Sonnie_McAleer

Replying to @AprilDRyan @keithboykin
So Trump heard black women were responsible for Doug Jones win in Alabama and fired the first one he could find?
ehBeth
 
  2  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 12:05 pm
@DrewDad,
My question was literally, can anyone say they're a Democrat and run as a Democrat at the local level?

can there be more than one Democratic/one Republican candidate? do they have primaries at that level. Or can they just say I want to be on the ballot and I'm a Democrat
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blatham
 
  6  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 12:18 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
Gowdy was clearly biased against Hillary Clinton, yet saw fit to oversee an investigation against her for years. How come we don't see Lash calling for his head and claiming the whole investigation is 'tainted?'
Two things here. Lash's behavior is entirely consistent with a right wing voice presently pretending to be something quite different. Is there anyone at all who doesn't get that?

But on the more important aspect of Goudy, etc, I think we have to understand that the "investigation" strategy is, in the modern GOP's hands, a propaganda trick. Long before Ken Starr was appointed, the GOP had been running numerous "investigations" of the Clinton administration, most or all of which were without merit. But as propaganda, it worked for them, filling the media space with ideas they wanted to pump out there and all working, by suggestion, to cultivate doubt and anger.

When Obama won the first election, it was within one week that Limbaugh began to loudly warn his audience that now, with the WH and congress under Dem control, the Dems would launch countless fake investigations against the Bush administration. That never happened (though many wished a deep investigation of the Iraq war decision and other related decisions like torture). Limbaugh was projecting. It's what he would have done. It's what his party would have done.

Just be aware they aren't going to stop playing this game. It works for them even if it is one more thing they do that is breaking America.
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blatham
 
  3  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 12:19 pm
@ehBeth,
If the "escorted out" element is true, that's damned interesting.
BillW
 
  3  
Wed 13 Dec, 2017 12:24 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

If the "escorted out" element is true, that's damned interesting.


Quote:
Sources told the Daily News in September that White House chief of staff John Kelly was unhappy with Manigault’s oversized influence on the President and her ability to get him worked up over hot topics.

Kelly did the firing and Manigault “acted very vulgar and cursed a lot and said she helped elect President Trump,” sources told American Urban Radio Networks’ April Ryan.

Manigault had to be escorted from the building after Kelly told her she was out, Ryan said.


https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/12/13/omarosa-manigault-reportedly-leaves-white-house-role-in-dramatic-fashion/23306096/
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