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@Cycloptichorn,

80% plus people never want to "do nothing". That is a false argument!

@maporsche,

I got a degree once, certified by the State of Illinois, Department of Corrections. I'm a certified license plate manufacturer, ya know?

Don't do me no good these here days. Instead of making up new plates every year with the year printed on them, they hauled off and starting using stickers. That's cool, though. In the process I also learned how to use a license plate to unlock a car door. I'm good.

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@Cycloptichorn,

I think that a different problem though. Education assistance of various degrees and some improvements to the national education system is a step...not the last step, but a step.

Not to mention that I think having a college degree goes a long way in having an intelligent populace that won't fall for fake news or some of these Appalachain's may even meet and befriend a Muslim for the first time and maybe lose some of that prejudice.

There will always be those that abuse the system; you can't fix that without blowing up the entire support system that many people rely on and need.

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@maporsche,

Despite the negative Republican views of all of America and all of its people, I have extreme confidence in both! The small 10% of the whole or 33% of wayward tRumpians be damned!

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@maporsche,

Quote maporsche:

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Education assistance of various degrees and some improvements to the national education system is a step...not the last step, but a step.

America, which was an example for the world after WWII, is no longer at the top in terms of education or living standards. We are not Third World, like Russian trolls are posting on social media, we are definitely First World, but we are not near the lead of the First Worlders. Most advanced democracies have a larger percentage of the population college-educated, and with a greater life expectancy.

Free college should be a priority.

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@maporsche,

Education assistance doesn't matter when there are no employers locally to hire educated people. It's not that I don't want educated people - I do - but what you're proposing doesn't solve the problem and isn't attractive to the population in question.

Cycloptichorn

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@BillW,

BillW wrote:

80% plus people never want to "do nothing". That is a false argument!

They do when they're paid to do so, when they have no other credible job options anyway, and when doing something cuts off their other money streams.

Read:

http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

This is a different point than the one I initially disagreed with but to comment on it, America is going to soon have more people than we do jobs. By a lot. We are going to have a hard time adjusting to that new world.

I think Universal Basic Income is a great thing and a possible solution to a lot of issues.

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@Blickers,

No free college should not be a priority. Free college will leave a college education just as worthless as a high school education. If we have to hand out "free" money for school I would prefer to see it go to STEM classes that are actually useful to the public.

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@maporsche,

We can deal with this problem long before that happens. In fact, there was a candidate last cycle who had a specific plan to deal with this problem, and it was about more than education; it's about infrastructure improvement, luring companies there with tax breaks, and expanded social programs to help people get back to work and off of government assistance.

What's the alternative? I mean, we're not going back to mining the heck out of coal or producing tires in some small-town factory that employed 300 people. So we have to choose the best option available to us today.

Cycloptichorn

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@maporsche,

If we have more people than jobs, then we should limit immigration into the US. We should always have a policy that states "Citizens First" in all decisions.

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@Cycloptichorn,

I’m not suggesting any of that. I think we agree on this point. I’m just saying that I want the guy pouring concrete to have a college degree if he wants. Not a free one but an affordable one and one that can work with their adult lives.

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"Special Counsel" apparently means the "lynch Trump mob."

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Top Mueller investigator's Democratic ties raise new bias questions

Yet another member of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigative team is facing questions over potential bias after it emerged that she used to represent ex-Obama aide Ben Rhodes and the Clinton Foundation.

Jeannie Rhee is a former partner at WilmerHale—the high-profile law firm where Mueller worked prior to taking on the special counsel role. She is one of at least three attorneys who followed Mueller from WilmerHale.

This week, details of Rhee’s client relationships emerged, revealing that she represented Obama Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes during the House Select Committee on Benghazi’s investigation of the 2012 Benghazi terrorist attack.

Also this week, it was reported that Rhee represented the Clinton Foundation in 2015 against a racketeering lawsuit brought by conservative legal activist group Freedom Watch in 2015. Rhee also represented former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a lawsuit seeking access to her private emails.

Rhee married the former Christopher Sclafani, who took his wife's last name, in 1995, after the two met at Yale University. Mr. Rhee, also an attorney, has a history of working with prominent Democrats, serving as a special assistant to then-Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder, and as counsel to Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Aside from her personal and professional relationships with prominent political figures on the left, Rhee has a history of large political donations to Democrats. Rhee also was an assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia and worked under FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, whose wife was given donations from Clinton allies while running for Virginia state Senate.

Also this week, it emerged that Andrew Weissmann, another former associate at WilmerHale, praised then-outgoing acting Attorney General Sally Yates after she was fired by President Trump earlier this year for refusing to defend his controversial travel ban. An email, obtained by Judicial Watch through a federal lawsuit, showed that on the night of Jan. 30, Weissmann wrote to Yates under the subject line, “I am so proud.” He continued, “And in awe. Thank you so much. All my deepest respects.”

Rhee, Weissmann and at least six other attorneys on Mueller’s team have donated to Democratic candidates and to the Democratic Party.

If Clinton's personal attorney is appointed to prosecute Trump, then Trump's attorney should be turned loose with special counsel powers to prosecute Hillary, eh?

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@maporsche,

What do we do about the fact that no concrete needs to be poured in the dude's region? Economically dead regions are a giant problem for our country right now and the true source of many other problems we see.

Cycloptichorn

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@Blickers,

India for instance!

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@Cycloptichorn,

I think infrastructure programs would solve a lot of that. Don’t you?

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@Cycloptichorn,

Wrong, we have brought in Indians by the thousands because of their higher education in computers, exactly what Clinton promised WV!

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@maporsche,

Yup, which is why I voted for the person who had an actual plan to do that, as opposed to 'bringing factories and coal jobs back' bullshit

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

BillW wrote:

80% plus people never want to "do nothing". That is a false argument!

They do when they're paid to do so, when they have no other credible job options anyway, and when doing something cuts off their other money streams.

Read:

http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/

Cycloptichorn

Begging the question is illogical! In my work place we have people flying in weekly from Florida, Chicago, New Hampshire, Texas, California, DC, etc to work. They can fly in from WV too, if they have the education!

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