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Olivier5
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 03:56 am
@blatham,
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How should journalists respond in an era in which Democrats trust the press and Republicans don’t?

If Democrats trusted medical doctors and Republicans didn’t, how should medical doctors respond?

Keep working for whoever buys your service, I guess.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:06 am
@blatham,
Israel/Palestine is the least of our concerns in the ME. Looks like it's going to kick off between Iran and Saudi Arabia big time.

Yemen is a tinderbox right now.

Quote:
Houthi rebels are moving to tighten their grip on Yemen's capital, Sanaa, a day after they killed their former ally ex-President Ali Abdullah Saleh.

Residents said new checkpoints had been set up in the city and there were reports of arrests of Saleh supporters.

Saleh died in a roadside attack amid fierce clashes between his supporters and the Houthis in Sanaa.

Houthi leaders accused Saleh of "treachery", after he switched to the government's side in the civil war.

Overnight, a Saudi-led coalition backing the government carried out 25 air strikes on Houthi targets, including a presidential palace and other government buildings.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42236593
oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:21 am
@izzythepush,
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US President Donald Trump will recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital, senior administration officials have said.

It was long overdue.


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Arab leaders have warned they will jeopardise any Middle East peace process.

There is no peace process. The Palestinians and their demented supporters have already destroyed it. Now they are reaping the consequences of having destroyed the peace process.


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the Palestinians claim East Jerusalem as the capital of a future Palestinian state.

The Palestinian state is going to be composed of Area A, and Area A alone.

Well, Gaza too of course.
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oralloy
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:22 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Kushner is doing a bang-up job bringing peace to the region.

That he is.

What we really need to do now is stop pressuring Israel into not completing the Security Fence around greater Jerusalem and in other sensitive areas.

After they complete the Security Fence, Israel can declare it as an official border and annex all land west of the Fence.

Israel can then continue to maintain rigid control over Areas B and C east of the Security Fence, gradually forcing Palestinians out of Area B as generations pass by.

The only Palestinians in Area C of course are the workers who scrub the Settlers' toilets.
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blatham
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:34 am
@Olivier5,
That's funny, Olivier
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Lash
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:39 am
@Olivier5,
Hahaha. “Whoever buys your service” Cuttingly appropriate wording.
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blatham
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:43 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Keep working for whoever buys your service, I guess.
The one thing that won't work is mirroring the behavior of right wing media. That might bring in dollars (as in CNN's attempts to capture some of the Fox viewers) but it self-defeating. And then the US would be totally fucked.
blatham
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:44 am
@izzythepush,
That's a matter I won't concern myself with at present but feel free to keep us posted on this.
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blatham
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:47 am
Your honor, members of the jury: I would like to remind us all that there are millions, even billions, of people that my client, Mr Charles Manson, did not brutally murder. This is an indisputable fact.
Quote:
Josh Marshall
@joshtpm
Roy Moore Spox: "Poppy, we need to make it clear there's a group of non-accusers."
5:39 AM - Dec 5, 2017
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Builder
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:53 am
@blatham,
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And then the US would be totally fucked.


Looking in from the outside, I'm wondering just how much more fucked it can get.
blatham
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:54 am
Today's edition of Voices From The Right
Quote:
Michael Gerson‏Verified account
@MJGerson
There are few moments when a political party can be said to have lost its soul. GOP support for Moore is one of them. It is the complete abandonment of morality in the cause of power. Shockingly cynical, cruel to Moore’s (credible) accusers, an abdication of ethical leadership.
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Lash
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 04:59 am
@blatham,
Writing the news to curry favor ($$) with establishment democrat paymasters moves us toward a Pravda-like State news outlet.

‘Twas proven to happen pretty frequently already in the damning Wikileaks email dump.

Fox definitely skews conservative. The other MSMs, establishment Dem. You guys should be glad you have more ‘journalists’ in the pocket of your donors.
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Lash
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 05:00 am
@Builder,
We’re going down very hard, very soon.
blatham
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 05:05 am
Quote:
Eric Boehlert‏Verified account
@EricBoehlert
just so folks realize, GOP embrace of Moore is a preview of GOP's embrace of firing Mueller and and GOP's embrace of idea Trump can't be prosecuted for obstruction of justice.

Let's be aware this is quite possibly correct.
Builder
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 05:08 am
@Lash,
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We’re going down very hard, very soon.


I'm torn between two extremes here, though. I'm seeing the paedophilia network exposed and a massive shift in the awareness factor in average peeps, but not really seeing what's coming with the cabal take-down.

People think their prez is a dunce, but I can't help thinking there's actually a massive support base for Trump, and the cabal's press are running around screaming about his womanising, but that's all they've really got.

I've not actually ever liked the dude, but I'm still eternally grateful that the horror show he ousted is cooling her heels somewhere else now.
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oralloy
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 05:39 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Quote:
Eric Boehlert‏Verified account
@EricBoehlert
just so folks realize, GOP embrace of Moore is a preview of GOP's embrace of firing Mueller and and GOP's embrace of idea Trump can't be prosecuted for obstruction of justice.

Let's be aware this is quite possibly correct.

The fact that nothing that Trump did even remotely amounts to obstruction of justice is a pretty strong argument against prosecuting him. I know that the Democrats like to construct imaginary obstruction statutes in their minds that even overrule the Constitution, but really, can we start dealing with reality here?

The fact that the Democrats give themselves a free pass on sex crimes is a pretty strong argument for embracing Moore.

Firing Mueller is a bit pointless IMO. Just pardon everyone. Let Mueller stay in office twiddling his thumbs until he quits out of boredom.
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Olivier5
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 05:52 am
@blatham,
Indeed, American journalists need to clearly position their service as something else than FAUX News, something different from "whatever lies we think you should be swallowing today". I'm pretty sure the good folks at NYT or WaPo realize that they are not in the same business than Sean Hannity, and that they need to defend their business as a matter of survival.

CNN is less clear-cut, less ethical IMO and more prone to making money no matter what journalistic value there is in their shows. They could use the current ambience to clean up their act and become more professional, or they could decide to "go tabloid" to make more money...
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Brand X
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 06:01 am
CNN needs to get back to reporting news and give up the vendetta against Trump, they can't go three seconds without drilling Trump.
Builder
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 06:12 am
@Brand X,
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CNN needs to get back to reporting news


They are the propaganda arm of the CIA. Get with the program.
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Lash
 
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Wed 6 Dec, 2017 06:17 am
@Cycloptichorn,
It is a personally sad thing to me and a lot of other progressives to see people such as yourself embrace the disgusting corruption and destruction of the US by attempting to marginalize those of us who are working to improve things for regular people.

You're helping the Koch brothers and other oligarchs by fighting people-friendly reforms.

You're on the wrong side.
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