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BillW
 
  2  
Sun 3 Dec, 2017 08:57 pm
@snood,
Spittin' image, just like his father, the way he was brought up.....
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Lash
 
  0  
Sun 3 Dec, 2017 09:00 pm
Go outside and see that moon.
Setanta
 
  1  
Sun 3 Dec, 2017 09:35 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Translation: You can't because all you ever do is take cheap shots at people with whom you disagree--even those dead for more than 90 years.

You're pathetic, but we already knew that.
Builder
 
  0  
Sun 3 Dec, 2017 10:09 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
Go outside and see that moon.


Hoping it clears by tonight. Quite heavy rain and storms this morning. Nice and cool, though.
Lash
 
  2  
Sun 3 Dec, 2017 10:31 pm
@Builder,
So beautiful and clear here. Took a pic, but the light was distorted.

Nothing like the big full moon.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Sun 3 Dec, 2017 11:02 pm
@Lash,
I hate when its clear, yet the light is distorted. Kinda sucks don't it granny.
Blickers
 
  3  
Sun 3 Dec, 2017 11:49 pm
@Lash,
Quote Lash:
Quote:
Russian interference into the 2016 has not been proven.

It's being investigated by various bodies. What has been proven is that various Trump campaign aides, including his son, met with Russian officials which Emails prove was for the purpose of Russia supplying the Trump campaign with damaging material on Hillary which no doubt was obtained by Russian intelligence services. Not to mention the fact that the Trump campaign and Administration is or was infested with Putin lovers like Bannon, whose Breitbart website considers Vlad a hero and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross who came to the Trump campaign straight from his job as director of a Cypress bank which laundered money for Russian oligarchs. Then there is Carter Page, a "foreign policy advisor" with ties to Russia and who gave info, (not classified) to a Russian spy ring. Let us not forget Paul Manafort, who collected millions of dollars from the Kremlin's puppet Ukrainian party and who is under contract to a Russian oligarch to promote Russian interests in the West. How about Mike Flynn, whose Russian connections run deep and wide, Attorney General Jeff Sessions who lied repeatedly to Congress about meeting Russian Ambassador Sergei Kisylak at the Trump nominating convention. Oh yeah, by the way, if Trump isn't in deep with the Russians, what the hell WAS Russian Ambassador Sergei Kisylak even doing at Trump's nominating convention? Know of any other president who invited officials of America's enemy to their conventions?
Builder
 
  -1  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 01:59 am
This is gathering momentum on social media today.

“People who lost money when the Stock Market went down 350 points based on the False and Dishonest reporting of Brian Ross of @ABC News (he has been suspended), should consider hiring a lawyer and suing ABC for the damages this bad reporting has caused - many millions of dollars!” Trump said on Twitter.

source

Maybe a class action is what it will take to make reporters more cautious about their sources in today's rather fragile market.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 02:19 am
@glitterbag,
It was very bright over the skies of Southampton last night. No stars though, just a big sodding moon.

Apparently next month's will be even bigger. (Called a wolf moon because that's when the native Americans say hungry wolves howling at the moon.)

There was a moon bloke on BBC news yesterday. He said most moon names are derived from N Am folklore. A blue moon is when a month has two full moons, which is quite rare, as in once in a blue moon.
hightor
 
  2  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 03:43 am
@Builder,
Quote:
This is gathering momentum on social media today.

As if there were some significance to this inane piece of information.

Quote:

“People who lost money when the Stock Market went down 350 points based on the False and Dishonest reporting of Brian Ross of @ABC News (he has been suspended), should consider hiring a lawyer and suing ABC for the damages this bad reporting has caused - many millions of dollars!” Trump said on Twitter.

This, not surprisingly, is a really stupid idea. Not surprisingly, Builder chose to share it and include some positive commentary of his own. No one "lost money"; only idiots rush to liquefy their holdings when their value falls. If anything, with stock prices artificially depressed, smart investors would be buying up bargains while thanking Brian Ross.
Builder
 
  0  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 04:07 am
@hightor,
Quote:
If anything, with stock prices artificially depressed, smart investors would be buying up bargains while thanking Brian Ross.


Spoken like a true vulture capitalist.

Is this what you speak about with your church buddies on a Sunday?

How'd you fare in the bankster heist in 07-8?
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Builder
 
  0  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 04:09 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
There was a moon bloke on BBC news yesterday.


You don't say? There's actually someone interested in something other than paedophilia working there?
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Setanta
 
  2  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 04:13 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
A blue moon is when a month has two full moons, which is quite rare, as in once in a blue moon.


That will be next month. A full moon, and a so-called super moon on the 1st and on the 31st will entertain those with cold, cold, clear skies and frustrate those with overcast.
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Lash
 
  2  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 05:16 am
@glitterbag,
What a peevish little anger ball you always are. You must be so miserable.

The picture

distorted the the bright light from the moon.

Go back to your drink. Drunk

Bitchy about the moon... I do appreciate the feeling you leave me with after one of these encounters. Sincere gratitude I'm not you.
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 05:20 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
the narrative of 'both parties are equally bad'

A page or two back, hightor quoted a letter/op ed from Ornstein and Mann on precisely this matter. They are congressional scholars.

Lash doesn't forward a political ideology that replicates Sanders. She forwards a rhetorical strategy that reflects the sort of diversionary (and confusion-making, if it achieves it's aims) tactics employed by Bannon. Differentiation, attention to facts and careful thinking are the targets of this strategy. As in...

"Everyone has bad thoughts" - Charles Manson
"Everyone lies" - WH spokesperson


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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 05:21 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes. This one is particularly ugly.
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 05:33 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
It is sickening, and it's the worst case of that special style of corruption known as grafting that I've seen in my lifetime.

Yes. And this is becoming increasingly institutionalized as time passes. And the speed at which this change is happening is accelerating. I've never been so doubtful and concerned about what the US will look like just four years up the road.
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snood
 
  3  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 05:36 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:

Quote Lash:
Quote:
Russian interference into the 2016 has not been proven.

It's being investigated by various bodies. What has been proven is that various Trump campaign aides, including his son, met with Russian officials which Emails prove was for the purpose of Russia supplying the Trump campaign with damaging material on Hillary which no doubt was obtained by Russian intelligence services. Not to mention the fact that the Trump campaign and Administration is or was infested with Putin lovers like Bannon, whose Breitbart website considers Vlad a hero and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross who came to the Trump campaign straight from his job as director of a Cypress bank which laundered money for Russian oligarchs. Then there is Carter Page, a "foreign policy advisor" with ties to Russia and who gave info, (not classified) to a Russian spy ring. Let us not forget Paul Manafort, who collected millions of dollars from the Kremlin's puppet Ukrainian party and who is under contract to a Russian oligarch to promote Russian interests in the West. How about Mike Flynn, whose Russian connections run deep and wide, Attorney General Jeff Sessions who lied repeatedly to Congress about meeting Russian Ambassador Sergei Kisylak at the Trump nominating convention. Oh yeah, by the way, if Trump isn't in deep with the Russians, what the hell WAS Russian Ambassador Sergei Kisylak even doing at Trump's nominating convention? Know of any other president who invited officials of America's enemy to their conventions?


Don't cloud the issue with facts,man!
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 05:38 am
@snood,
Lash said:
Quote:
Russian interference into the 2016 has not been proven.


Yeah. Sanders followers say this all the time. But your never hear it from rightwing voices. So Lash is off the hook here. She's legit.
Lash
 
  1  
Mon 4 Dec, 2017 05:40 am
@snood,
Despite all Blickers' words, that narrative leads back to my statement: Russian interference in the 2016 election has not been proven.

We do know Hillary Clinton claimed something like 26 agencies agreed Russia had interfered with the election, but we all know facts forced her to back down from that lie.

So,...still waiting....

And THAT is a fact.
 

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