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blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 11:56 am
@ehBeth,
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people are lazy, so it's easy to convince them that neoliberalism must mean 'fancy kind of liberal'
Exactly. And by "fancy", the meaning is likely to be "hidden", "covert", "elitist", "snooty", "big city dweller", etc

Thanks for the podcast!
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hightor
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 11:58 am
@blatham,
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Because "neoliberalism" contains the word "liberal", it can be a fairly simple thing to then imply that neoliberalism (where it means radical right wing economic and social ideas) is a leftist phenomenon.

And the popular misuse of the term in the USA, applied to Bill Clinton's centrist triangulation, developed in response to the term "neoconservative" which emerged in the early '70s.
blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 11:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Has anyone ever seen Lash write a post based on Monbiot's criticisms of right wing broad, organized and so very well funded operations to discount global warming and to cripple governments' ability to regulate those operations? Anyone? Ever?
blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 12:10 pm
@hightor,
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And the popular misuse of the term in the USA, applied to Bill Clinton's centrist triangulation, developed in response to the term "neoconservative" which emerged in the early '70s.
I hadn't thought of that connection but there certainly are precedents for manipulation of language of that sort. For example, the right wing hijacking of civil rights language (not to mention legal strategies) to convey the idea that white people are oppressed and to turn back real gains made by minorities, particularly blacks.

Clinton's centrist triangulation (at that point in time and under existing conditions) is probably a bit to sophisticated in concept for our right wing friends here to deal with.
blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 12:19 pm
This may strike you as familiar
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A 1919 document titled “Final Report on Negro Subversion,” which came to the desk of a twenty-four-year-old Justice Department staffer named J. Edgar Hoover, portrayed the civil-rights movement as potentially Bolshevik-inspired, and suggested that black discontent might easily turn into support for Communism. At the same time, the Ku Klux Klan, which had been all but crushed by a series of anti-terrorism laws passed during Reconstruction, surged back to life after the release, in 1915, of the film “Birth of a Nation.” Yet its transformation from a Southern phenomenon into a national one elicited little concern from law-enforcement officials, some of whom were members.
The Trump Administration and Hoover-Era Paranoia
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blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 12:26 pm
Obviously, this sociopath's history has led him to the conclusion that he can lie anytime about anything and there's a good chance he'll get away with it.
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Like Moore, Trump has been accused of sexual assault by several women, and like Moore, he has refused to budge an inch on the question of his innocence. As the Times reveals, though, Trump has gone way beyond mere denials. He has taken to contesting objective reality itself:

But something deeper has been consuming Mr. Trump. He sees the calls for Mr. Moore to step aside as a version of the response to the now-famous “Access Hollywood” tape, in which he boasted about grabbing women’s genitalia, and the flood of groping accusations against him that followed soon after. He suggested to a senator earlier this year that it was not authentic, and repeated that claim to an adviser more recently. (In the hours after it was revealed in October 2016, Mr. Trump acknowledged that the voice was his, and he apologized.)
NYMag
And once again, consider how incredibly stupid he presumes his supporters are.

Trump's Big Lie is that he doesn't lie.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 12:29 pm
@blatham,
What I still find amusing (and I discussed that with Monbiot) is that "neoliberalism" was coinde by a German Social Demecrat, who opposed classical liberalism and used the word "neoliberalism" to describe a "third way" between capitalism and socialism - thanks to the concept of Alexander Rüstow we got the social market economy ("Soziale Marktwirtschaft").

[Monbiot himself seems to promote this kind of neoliberalism even if he doesn't say so.]
blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 12:50 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
You and George know much more about this subject and nomenclature (particularly its manifestations in Britain and Europe) than I do.

Re a "third way" or "centrism", late in life, John Rawls explained that his seminal "Theory of Justice" was motivated (at least in part) to develop some bridge whereby the right and left might meet and find agreement on key matters of justice and principle. It's the extremists who believe any attempt at cooperation and consensus is traitorous.
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blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 01:02 pm
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[Trump] has used “toughness on crime” as an argument to endorse Roy Moore, who is credibly accused with a wide array of sex crimes, over Doug Jones, who made his name prosecuting criminals. (When Trump says “crime,” it does not mean crime. It means race.) For all his laziness and wandering attention span, he has displayed impressive discipline in calling attention over and over again to black athletes and their supposed lack of gratitude.
Jon Chait
blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 01:05 pm
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New dynamic score shows the Senate tax bill raises debt by more than advertised

Kent Smetters was in the trenches in the Newt Gingrich-era Congressional Budget Office, and he’s a veteran of George W. Bush’s Treasury Department. A new analysis using his well-regarded budget model has concluded the Republican tax plan won’t raise nearly as much revenue as its proponents say, or provide a meaningful boost to economic growth.

The problem, according to a pair of new reports by the Penn-Wharton Budget Model, is that the Senate Republicans’ tax bill would increase federal debt by more than advertised, and increased debt accumulation would counteract much — or potentially all — of the positive growth impact of tax cuts. The result will likely be lower incomes for the bottom half of the income distribution even before considering the negative impact of inevitable spending cuts to offset the surprisingly low federal tax intake.
Vox
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glitterbag
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 01:09 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Has anyone ever seen Lash write a post based on Monbiot's criticisms of right wing broad, organized and so very well funded operations to discount global warming and to cripple governments' ability to regulate those operations? Anyone? Ever?


I gave up reading her posts a few months back. I’m not sure if it’s her misguided yet towering arrogance or her susceptibility to outrageous gossipy nonsense that is so repellant. Either way, it’s all so freaking sad I just can’t engage in all that otherworldly foolishness any longer without pangs of guilt for exploiting or baiting someone so obviously in need of help.
Lash
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 01:12 pm
@blatham,
Do you remember when both Clintons used the same anti-black dog whistles to attract racists? Amazing how they kept their black fans through that.
hightor
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 01:20 pm
@Lash,
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Do you remember when both Clintons used the same anti-black dog whistles to attract racists?

No, I don't. Perhaps you'd refresh my memory. I'm thinking that you might possibly be referring to elements of the war on drugs and Ms. Clinton's "super-predators" comment? Both those can be explained if you look at the atmosphere of the time and I don't think either of them were trying to attract "racists" so maybe you can explain what you mean?

"super predators"

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blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 01:28 pm
@glitterbag,
She's an odd one.
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Setanta
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 01:28 pm
Congratulations to Comrade Sofia Lash Goth in her never-ending quest to divert the discussion from President Plump. A nod to Mr. Latham for trying to get the thread back on track.
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blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 01:36 pm
From Bruce Barlett who served under Reagan and Bush Sr
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I think many Democrats and independent political observers are puzzled by the intensity with which Republicans are pursuing their tax cut. It’s not politically popular and may well lead to the party’s defeat in next year’s congressional elections. So why do it?

The answer is that Republicans are pushing the tax cut at breakneck speed precisely because they know they are probably going to lose next year and in 2020 as well. The tax cut, once enacted, however, will bind the hands of Democrats for years to come, forcing them to essentially follow a Republican agenda of deficit reduction and prevent any action on a positive Democratic program. The result will be a steady erosion of support for Democrats that will put Republicans back in power within a few election cycles.
Guardian
blatham
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 01:38 pm
And speaking of convenient distractions...
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Norman Ornstein‏Verified account
@NormOrnstein
Nice that Meet the Press is focusing entire hour on politicians and sexual harrassment. You almost would not know that Senate will vote this week on a tax bill that will have a profound effect on every American and our future

This is a consistent media failing. If it is about sex, big coverage. And any such predictable behavior/response by the news media can be utilized by folks who wish to keep stuff hidden from view.
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hightor
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 02:01 pm
@blatham,
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The tax cut, once enacted, however, will bind the hands of Democrats for years to come, forcing them to essentially follow a Republican agenda of deficit reduction and prevent any action on a positive Democratic program.

This is definitely in line with the old "starve the beast" mentality. But is there some reason Democrats can't repeal parts of the bill or make changes to it? Assuming, of course that they regain control of both houses and the presidency in '20 — which is rather dubious. Gerrymandering, Republican loyalty, and the lack of any attractive politician or a well-thought-out political philosophy would seem to work against the Democrats.
Setanta
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 02:04 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Gerrymandering, Republican loyalty, and the lack of any attractive politician or a well-thought-out political philosophy would seem to work against the Democrats.


I am sorry to say that I consider this to be a very cogent assessment of the failing of the Democratic Party.
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hightor
 
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Sun 26 Nov, 2017 02:30 pm
Is This Professor ‘Putin’s American Apologist’?

How Stephen F. Cohen became the most controversial Russia expert in America

Chronicle of Higher Education
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