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Lash
 
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Mon 23 Oct, 2017 07:14 am
@MontereyJack,
She couldn’t beat Donald Trump.

All that excess was in one state.

Broadly, she is unpopular.

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Lash
 
  -1  
Mon 23 Oct, 2017 07:18 am
Hillary: less popular than Trump

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/19/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-unpopular-polling

Another fact in the post-fact world:

Donald Trump is one of the least popular politicians in the history of the United States. Yet, Trump is still more popular than Hillary Clinton. Let that sink in.

According to the latest Bloomberg National Poll, Trump has a net favorability of 41% whereas Clinton has a net favorability of 39%. If Democrats are to escape the political wilderness, they will have to leave Clinton and her brand of politics in the woods.

Now, there is no doubt that Clinton has suffered sexist double standards just as Barack Obama encountered racist double standards. Trump labeled her “Crooked Hillary” and his supporters rallied around the chant “Lock her up”. Rich in hypocrisy, Trump has continued to attack Clinton for her emails even though his son has proven to have done much worse.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Mon 23 Oct, 2017 07:23 am
@Lash,
What is Clinton actually doing now in US-politics?
And why is it still interesting how popular ex-candidates are 349 days after the election?
georgeob1
 
  0  
Mon 23 Oct, 2017 07:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Both are interesting questions Walter. It often appears that Hillary can't get over her loss or, equally important, recognize or accept her failures and the political forces that caused the loss. Similarly it appears many elements of the Democrat Party remain in denial & anger over their defeats in the presidential, Congressional and many State elections. Both appear to have sublimated their reactions into hatred for anything Trump. It is very hard to see this as an effective political strategy.
Lash
 
  -1  
Mon 23 Oct, 2017 07:39 am
@Walter Hinteler,
She’s running around the world, hawking yet another book filled with lies, inaccuracies, and excuses for losing an election to the most unpopular presidential candidate in history—other than her.

When someone buys her lies and posts to that affect, I’m happy to provide facts.

You’re welcome.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 23 Oct, 2017 07:57 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
She couldn’t beat Donald Trump.

All that excess was in one state.

Lash wrote:
When someone buys her lies and posts to that affect, I’m happy to provide facts.

You’re welcome.
If you remove remove New York state and Massachusetts from the vote count, it would be the same as if that would have been done with California - at least when I look at the figures and doubt your statement.
But since you only provide facts, I must be wrong. (And I'm not saying that Trump’s electoral vote victory came entirely from Texas!)

But never mind: if you don't have other problems than these with a former candidate you opposed, fine!
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Blickers
 
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Mon 23 Oct, 2017 10:54 am
@georgeob1,
Quote georgeob1:
Quote:
It often appears that Hillary can't get over her loss or, equally important, recognize or accept her failures and the political forces that caused the loss.

The Russkies hacked the election to put Trump, whom Putin owns due to his knowledge of Trump's illegal money laundering for Russia, in the White House. She's under no moral directive to keep silent as the story emerges. Republicans, on the other hand, want her silenced so that they can prop up The Manchurian Candidate.
Setanta
 
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Mon 23 Oct, 2017 11:08 am
@Blickers,
There is an hilarious irony there--conservatives can't shut up about Clinton. Of course, it's a wonderful diversion for them to bring up, given what a gross, standing embarrassment President Plump is. It's the "Hey! look over there" rhetorical method.
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Setanta
 
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Mon 23 Oct, 2017 11:10 am
Once again, Goys and Birls, the topic here is President Plump, not Mrs. Clinton.
blatham
 
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Mon 23 Oct, 2017 03:39 pm
Quote:
Czech President holds up machine gun marked ‘for journalists’ during press conference
It comes as a billionaire right-wing populist becomes the country's prime minister.

...Zeman’s stunt on Friday aren’t the first time he’s made incendiary remarks towards the press. He has previously referred to journalists as “manure” and “hyenas.” In May, he shared a joke with Vladimir Putin that some of the journalists at an event he was at needed to be “liquidated”
TP

If this doesn't sound frighteningly familiar, you aren't paying attention.
snood
 
  2  
Mon 23 Oct, 2017 03:44 pm
@blatham,
Sounds like oralloy's kind of politician.
blatham
 
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Mon 23 Oct, 2017 03:54 pm
This is Pruitt working, again, at the behest of those he has long represented - petroleum interests.
Quote:
The Environmental Protection Agency has canceled the speaking appearance of three agency scientists who were scheduled to discuss climate change at a conference on Monday in Rhode Island, according to the agency and several people involved.
NYT

Quote:
Pruitt coordinated with major oil and gas producers, electric utilities, and conservative political advocacy groups, including groups funded by billionaire brothers Charles Koch and David Koch, to oppose environmental regulations.[35][36][30][37] The oil and gas industry contributed over $300,000 to Pruitt's political campaigns over the years.[32][38] Pruitt used his office's stationary to send letters written by energy industry lobbyists to President Obama and to federal agencies during public comment
wikipedia




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Builder
 
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Mon 23 Oct, 2017 03:59 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
Once again, Goys and Birls, the topic here is President Plump, not Mrs. Clinton.


So we're supposed to ignore the fact that she is the reason he is president today?
blatham
 
  3  
Mon 23 Oct, 2017 04:02 pm
@snood,
Yes, and he's not alone. A day or two ago I quoted the Republican politician who said she would have shot the body-checked reporter.

The deeply worrisome element in this is the growing tendencies towards authoritarianism. If there is or was an authoritarian regime anywhere which did not move to derogate, suppress and even crush independent news media, I don't know what regime that might be.
blatham
 
  3  
Mon 23 Oct, 2017 04:07 pm
Jesus. What a despicable nest of vipers at Fox
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Builder
 
  -1  
Mon 23 Oct, 2017 04:16 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
If there is or was an authoritarian regime anywhere which did not move to derogate, suppress and even crush independent news media, I don't know what regime that might be.


Our Tory govt, in the commonwealth of Australia, supposedly under monarch rule from the old Dart, is in the process of doing just that.
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blatham
 
  3  
Mon 23 Oct, 2017 04:22 pm
Koch brothers's Americans for Prosperity is pushing another million into the Virginia governor's race WP
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blatham
 
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Mon 23 Oct, 2017 04:51 pm
Trey Gowdy fesses up that he is without personal integrity and that anyone would be a fool to trust the words that come out of his mouth
Quote:
Trey Gowdy has been running point for the House Republican investigation into the Russia scandal, at times going so far as to act like Jared Kushner’s personal defense lawyer. Gowdy’s response to the New York Times about the Russia probe is a world-weary pose of realism. “Congressional investigations unfortunately are usually overtly political investigations, where it is to one side’s advantage to drag things out,” says Gowdy. “The notion that one side is playing the part of defense attorney and that the other side is just these white-hat defenders of the truth is laughable … This is politics.”

That explanation might not sound outrageous on its face. It is certainly true, after all, that both parties in Congress tend to follow their partisan self-interest in conducting (or impeding) investigations. But we have crossed a new threshold when the leader of such an investigation no longer even pretends otherwise.

When Gowdy was running his endless hearings into Benghazi — a 2012 guerrilla attack that conservative conspiracy theorists had endlessly attempted to use as evidence of an imagined treasonous plot by the Obama administration — he piously insisted the proceedings were designed solely to discover the truth. “As I have said countless times before, this is not about politics,” said Gowdy last year, in one of many such comments. “This is not even about any one individual or a single investigation.”
NYMag
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oralloy
 
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Mon 23 Oct, 2017 05:52 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Yes, and he's not alone. A day or two ago I quoted the Republican politician who said she would have shot the body-checked reporter.

The deeply worrisome element in this is the growing tendencies towards authoritarianism. If there is or was an authoritarian regime anywhere which did not move to derogate, suppress and even crush independent news media, I don't know what regime that might be.

You extremists just don't get it. Don't go around violently attacking everyone who disagrees with you, and you won't be gunned down in self defense when you attack the wrong person.

Normal people don't have any trouble figuring out how to not go around violently attacking people. Why can't you guys figure it out?
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