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reasoning logic
 
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Sat 7 Oct, 2017 06:40 pm
@cameronleon,
Quote:
Then, you are now 41 years old and the Constitution doesn't apply for you. Is this what you want to say?

Come on.
Why do you claim him/her to be 41?
Blickers
 
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Sat 7 Oct, 2017 07:05 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
But if this witch hunt does cause damage, it will only inspire more interest in outlawing the Democratic Party in America.

The investigations cannot possibly do any more damage than Trump is doing every day. The only "damage" being done is to the self-image of a Russian agent living in the White House, whose swift excision by Constitutional means is absolutely imperative.
oralloy
 
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Sat 7 Oct, 2017 07:53 pm
@Blickers,
Convicting someone of a crime and punishing them causes damage to them and those who care about them.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 7 Oct, 2017 10:41 pm
@Blickers,
Russian agent living in the White House?

Rolling Eyes
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Setanta
 
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Sat 7 Oct, 2017 11:18 pm
A call for banning the Democratic party is pure fascism; every fascist government in Europe in the 1920s and -30s took the step of banning opposition parties upon assuming power--in Italy, Germany, Spain, Hungary and Greece.

Welcome to the wonderful world of American neo-fascism.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 7 Oct, 2017 11:34 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

wmwcjr wrote:

That's right. Smile

Isn't it strange and ironic that today we find neo-Confederates in the party of Lincoln? They hate him. WWLS (What would Lincoln say?)


Strom Thurmond, George Wallace, Lester Mattox and Jesse Helms - this history begins in 1948.


All of these gentlemen are deceased and therefore cannot be any of the "neo-Confederates" of whom wmwcjr wrote.

Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms were both Democrats who switched parties. Thurmond in 1964 and Helms in 1970 so it's a mystery as to how your history began in 1948.

George Wallace was a Democrat who competed in the Democrat presidential primaries in 1964, 1972 and 1976. He was never a member of the GOP

Lester Maddox was a Democrat. He ran in the Democrat gubernatorial primary against former Governor Ellis Arnall. Arnall won a plurality of votes and not enough to avoid a run-off election. Republicans were allowed to vote in the run-off and came out for Maddox because they believed their man Bo Callaway would fare better against Lester than Arnall. It is believed they put him over the top against his opponent. The Republicans who voted for Maddox were right about his strength as a candidate in the general election and Callaway beat him, however, there was a write-in campaign for Arnall that garnered him 52,000 votes and prevented Callaway from winning a decisive majority. There would be no run-off election as the decision as to who would govern Georgia was in the hands of the Democrat-controlled Georgia House of Representatives. Those Democrats gave Georgia Lester Maddox and him a platform for his further antics.

Maddox was never a member of the GOP

(Unless of course there is a "Lester Mattox" in Georgia political history, and you meant him. I'm not sure if you simply misspelled the man's last name or it was another one of your clever wordplays like "tRump")

Want to try for some other Republican neo-Confederates? As wmwcjr only named one Lincoln-hating neo-Confederate hanging out in the Party of Lincoln, you guys are going to have to do a lot better to show they exist in any number beyond one.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 7 Oct, 2017 11:36 pm
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:

Yep.


Nope
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 7 Oct, 2017 11:37 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

Yankees Lose! Yankees Lose! Yankees Lose!


Now I really hate you... Smile
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 7 Oct, 2017 11:40 pm
@BillW,
And rebellion against King George was a capital offense.

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
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BillW
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 12:26 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

BillW wrote:

Yankees Lose! Yankees Lose! Yankees Lose!


Now I really hate you... Smile

That makes me like you, nah - you're still an uneducated sh@thead. Do your own studying:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 12:29 am
@izzythepush,
Very interesting.

Good to know that our people are working diligently to foil these plots, but as we all know we have to be on our game all of the time and the jihadis only need to get lucky once.

An indication that ISIS has tapped into the Islamist groups in the Philippines, which is interesting in light of their claim that the Vegas massacre was by one of theirs and his own connection to the Phillippines.

Initially, I felt that the girlfriend being out of the country when the attack took place was suspicious, but she returned to the US for questioning which is surely not something an ISIS operative would have done after somehow turning her American boyfriend.

If it turns out that he did convert and his attack was Islamist motivated, I would have to think the girlfriend was an innocent dupe (or the stupidest terrorist to walk the earth).

As yet no real evidence of an ISIS connection other than their claims which have in the past not usually been false... except for when they have been, but I still believe there's a fair chance they're telling the truth this time.

If he did scout other locations, such as Fenway Park in Boston, Lollapalooza in Chicago and the Life is Beautiful music festival in Las Vegas, it would seem to put a spoke in the wheel of any theory that he was motivated by politics induced animosity towards Republicans or Trump supporters.

Of course, there's the possibility that he was motivated by a right-wing agenda but the MSM has yet to report anything at all to indicate this was the case, and I feel certain they have diligently been pursuing any such evidence.

We don't know what was written on the note found in his hotel room. I heard a former CIA operative on the radio saying that the information on that note could contain messages to ISIS cells in the US and that the FBI's concerns in this regard are leading them to keep it secret. However, these "former" agent experts have an incentive to provide sexy info so that they continue to be invited to opine for a fee. He used all the right qualifiers to avoid the appearance of having inside information and I didn't get the impression that he was doing anything more than speculating.

We also don't know what the girlfriend has told the authorities or what if anything the FBI has found on his computer or cell phone.

Also no clear indication, as yet, that he was acting irrationally or just plain strange before the event.

At some point the information that has been gathered is likely to be shared with the public either through normal channels or a leak (Any reporter with a connection to someone involved in the investigation has got to be working the phones hard)

It's also possible that we will never know what his motive truly was, which seems unlikely but would be maddening.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 12:34 am
@cameronleon,
Where are you from? English is obviously not your first tongue.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 12:35 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Who is your source inside the investigation?
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 12:44 am
@BillW,
Geeze - For some reason, I thought you were a nice guy underneath your gruff exterior.

Still waiting for the list of neo-Confederates though.
BillW
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 01:20 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Bite me, I don't take orders, especially from a white supremacist! Nor do I teach them out of their repugnant ways.
oralloy
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 02:07 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
A call for banning the Democratic party is pure fascism;

Anyone who stands up to liberal hatemongering is a fascist, a very mean person, and a general all-around poopyhead. So there.

Rolling Eyes
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oralloy
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 02:14 am
@BillW,
Do untrue accusations of white supremacy count as name-calling?

I know liberals also like to call people who stand up to their hatemongering "fascists" and "nazis", but no one takes that nonsense very seriously.
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oralloy
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 02:16 am
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
Quote:
Then, you are now 41 years old and the Constitution doesn't apply for you. Is this what you want to say?

Come on.

Why do you claim him/her to be 41?

He wasn't claiming that. He was offering a hypothetical example to ask if the intent of the poster was to say that the Constitution should not apply to people over age 40.
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izzythepush
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 03:31 am
Quote:
Two of America's biggest country music stars have distanced themselves from the National Rifle Association.
It's after Stephen Paddock killed 58 and injured hundreds of country music fans when he opened fire at the Route 91 Harvest festival in Las Vegas.
Traditionally country music and gun culture have had a strong friendship.
With the genre even having its own division of the rifle association called NRA Country which sponsors tours and artists.
But now platinum-selling duo Florida Georgia Line and chart topper Thomas Rhett both have disappeared from the NRA Country website this week.
Both FGL and Thomas Rhett had previously been featured as the NRA's country artist of the month.
Other country musicians are also speaking out about gun control.
And it's left many fans wondering if this could be the start of a movement.
Caleb Keeter, the guitarist for the Josh Abbott band, who performed at the festival that Stephen Paddock targeted, said he was "wrong" about gun laws.
He'd always been a strong supporter of the Second Amendment - the part of the US constitution that protects the right to have weapons.
But in an open letter to fans on Twitter he said, "Until the events of last night, I cannot express how wrong I was."
The Director of NRA Country said in 2015, "It's no secret, if you poll our members, they love country music."
According to Rolling Stone magazine, several of the NRA's artists have decided to clarify their relationship with the organisation.
They claim country star Blake Shelton, partner of Gwen Stefani, has also cut ties with the NRA.
The last time NRA Country faced any degree of scrutiny came after Sandy Hook elementary-school shooting in Conneticut back in 2012.
Superstar Luke Bryan was removed from NRA Country's website after that.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41530554/country-stars-distance-themselves-from-the-national-rifle-association
cameronleon
 
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Sun 8 Oct, 2017 06:56 am
@reasoning logic,
Quote:
Why do you claim him/her to be 41?


I was replying his/her absurd reasoning logic applied in his/her example or analogy, which was the Constitution made for 37 years old people, as an average age of Americans when the Constitution was signed.

Blickers wrote:

Quote:
No. When the Constitution was adopted the life expectancy of Americans was 36.5 years.


His/her example can be debunked easily when the longevity of the signers of the Constitution where mostly twice the age given by the poster.

http://www.thomaslegion.net/listofsignersoftheunitedstatesconstitution.html

(Age added by me)

G. Washington-Presidt. and deputy from Virginia 68 yo* (*years old)

New Hampshire: John Langdon 78 yo, Nicholas Gilman 59 yo

Massachusetts: Nathaniel Gorham 58 yo, Rufus King 72 yo

Connecticut: Wm: Saml. Johnson 92 yo, Roger Sherman 72 yo

New York: Alexander Hamilton 47 yo

New Jersey: Wil: Livingston 67 yo, David Brearly 45 yo, Wm. Paterson 61 yo, Jona: Dayton 66 yo

Pennsylvania: B. Franklin 85 yo, Thomas Mifflin 56 yo, Robt. Morris 72 yo, and so forth.

This was their longevity, their ages at the time of signing the Constitution were different, of course, having Benjamin Franklin as the older one of them.

Just by obtaining an average longevity from the examples above, it was from 65 to 70 years of age the average of people of "high class" or "elite" or rich dudes.

Can't tell the average longevity of the population in general, but it might be very similar, because in those times almost everybody had to pickup dry branches of trees for making fire, run and catch the chicken for dinner, cut off wood, walk or prepare the horse, the food was for sure without additives and nothing genetically modified, the water pure but with bacteria, different air pollution, etc.

Perhaps, if you are interested in this topic of the average longevity, you might look for it by yourself online.

My point is about what was the example or analogy given, which is not valid because is based in the imagination of the poster, not so in a credible example to be used as comparison or analogy.
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