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@Lash,

Ah-hahahahahahahahaha . . .

You and your new boyfriend crack me up.

@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Ah-hahahahahahahahaha . . .

You and your new boyfriend crack me up.

Your level of interaction here has plummeted to embarrassing depths. This is really how you want to present yourself?

Can't argue with a claim, so this childish playground stuff is how you want to refute an opinion?

You should check your ratio of substantive responses to ad homs.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

oralloy wrote:

Setanta wrote:
Moral turpitude on one person's or group's part does not excuse moral turpitude on the part of anyone else or any other group.

I strongly disagree. If one party gets away with wrongdoing, it is repugnant for them to then turn around and want to punish others for what they have flagrantly gotten away with.

Absolutely true. I'd wager it played a part in Trump's election.

Hillary Clinton is, in the very least, widely perceived to have gotten away with a long laundry list of serious crimes and/or disgusting behavior. The legitimate items probably feed the possibility of her guilt in the more fantastic items on that list, but the enduring fact is: she is believed to never be held accountable for her ****.

That is part of the reason she's so incredibly unpopular that she could lose to a Donald Trump.

It definitely factored in.

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@Lash,

I present myself well time and again by presenting evidence which can be checked through reliable sources, unlike your new boyfriend. Do you care to refute the description of the tu quoque fallacy--you know, the one you and your new boyfriend object to? Perhaps you can argue against the historical facts about the Nixon administration, the Iran--Contra indictments and convictions and the indictment and conviction of "Scooter" Libby, hot-shot.

I love the ironic hilarity, though, of you accusing someone of "ad-homs" (the term is argumentum ad hominem, and I have responded substantively to your new boyfriend)--immediately at the end of a post which is invidious and drips personal venom.

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From a report in The Guardian:

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Rapper 50 Cent has claimed that Donald Trump’s team offered him $500,000 to make an appearance in Trump’s presidential campaign.

The musician and actor was discussing the Trump administration on US radio station Hot 97 when he mentioned the president’s proposal, adding that he believed it was motivated by a desire to appeal to black voters.

“Before he got elected, they were having issues with the African American vote,” said the rapper, real name Curtis Jackson. “They wanted to pay me $500,000 as part of the campaign just to make an appearance.” Jackson revealed that he turned down the offer, as it would have sullied his reputation. “I was like, ‘Nah, that’s not good money, ’” he said. “That’s not worth it!”

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@Walter Hinteler,

Quote The Guardian:

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“They wanted to pay me $500,000 as part of the campaign just to make an appearance.” Jackson revealed that he turned down the offer, as it would have sullied his reputation. “I was like, ‘Nah, that’s not good money, ’” he said. “That’s not worth it!”

It certainly was not worth it, especially since Trump has a long, long history of not paying people who work for him.

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@blatham,

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President Trump has some history with the late Hugh Hefner and the Playboy empire he left behind.

During the 2016 election, when Trump's history with women was being put under a microscope, it was reported that he appeared in a 2000 Playboy softcore porn video in which he pops a bottle of champagne and pours it on the Playboy bunny logo.

Over the years Trump did publicity stunts with Playboy and partied with Hefner and the Playboy playmates.
WashEx

Cool. The evangelicals will love him more than ever now.

Hypercritically enough, they don't seem to care. I mean, they looked over his worst vulgar nasty remarks and have looked past his divorces and other past behavior.

Or was that subtly your point?

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@revelette1,

Subtly.

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@snood,

Knew I should have made sure. subtlety Smile

If you think my spelling is bad, you should hear me try to pronounce these words I try to use.

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@Setanta,

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There was no witch hunt against Nixon

Did some buffoon actually suggest this?

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@revelette1,

To be honest, I didn't catch that. I was just verifying that that was Blatham's subtle point.

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@snood,

Oh, well, I am way sensitive I guess. Anyway, it is amazing the politically religious conservatives support Trump. I would like to ask them just what it is about him they find to support.

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@revelette1,

The hypocrisy on that particular topic is limitless. I consider that to be one of the very few positives of the Trump administration - the exposure of the supposedly 'moral' Evangelical community as a bunch of lying assholes who are in it for their own power, and to have dominion over others, and literally nothing else.

Cycloptichorn

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@Walter Hinteler,

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Rapper 50 Cent has claimed that Donald Trump’s team offered him $500,000 to make an appearance in Trump’s presidential campaign.

When W was in office, the official White House website was jam-packed with smiling african americans. The proportion of blacks to whites on the site bore no relationship to his administration or WH staff.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

oralloy wrote:

Setanta wrote:
Moral turpitude on one person's or group's part does not excuse moral turpitude on the part of anyone else or any other group.

I strongly disagree. If one party gets away with wrongdoing, it is repugnant for them to then turn around and want to punish others for what they have flagrantly gotten away with.

Absolutely true. I'd wager it played a part in Trump's election.

This is a really dumb thing for him to write, and for you to agree with.

Cycloptichorn

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@revelette1,

That was my point though I'm surprised to hear it seemed "subtle". I never use the term "slut" as regards women (in fact, it was a usage banned in my house) but I do allow its use for men like Hefner or Trump.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

Oh, well, I am way sensitive I guess. Anyway, it is amazing the politically religious conservatives support Trump. I would like to ask them just what it is about him they find to support.

In one word - hypocrisy!

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@Cycloptichorn,

I think it's common knowledge that Clinton's ability to dodge accountability for all of her bullshit is one reason she's unpopular, and that unpopularity directly contributed to her loss.

Look at the percentage of Bernie Sanders voters that voted for Trump rather than Clinton. Those numbers alone support my opinion.

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@revelette1,

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Anyway, it is amazing the politically religious conservatives support Trump.

Some of them are just hypocrites but a large percentage of them were simply playing realpolitik to prevent Scalia's seat from going to a moderate. Unfortunately the idealists on the left couldn't see past the head of the ticket and as a result we have Gorsuch, a dying EPA, and probably some horrible tax reform which will reduce the federal government to ineffectiveness while making the 1% richer.

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@Cycloptichorn,

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Re: Lash (Post 6511937)
This is a really dumb thing for him to write, and for you to agree with.

Lash's posts seldom stray from the following themes:
1) Hillary Clinton is a venal, lying, money-grubbing, inappropriately ambitious and bitchy criminal who is nothing but a voice for the corporatocracy.
2) the DNC is, if anything, even worse than 1)
3) Democratic voters have only one hope in the future - they must destroy/dismantle their party and follow Bernie Sanders

The two interesting factors here, to help us understand what's going on, are:
1) Lash almost never says anything about the RNC. She never, so far as I know (though I look at her posts only intermittently) finds reason to criticize what Pruitt is up to at the EPA or how the right has set to a multi-decade program to rid the nation of unions or how it has always resisted elevating the minimum wage or how insanely theocratic Moore is or how Paul Ryan's political ideas bear no concern for those less well off or how the GOP obsession with destroying the ACA will (if they get their way or even some distance towards it) kill and bankrupt thousands of people.
2) Her oeuvre is an exact match with the right wing and Russian troll attempts to sew disaffection among likely Dem voters by attacking Clinton (and the Dem party) from the left.

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