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When the nation rallies around Trump, liberalism will be destroyed as a functional ideology in America.

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But on the other hand, what can appear initially as randomness appears so because causal factors are hidden from view

Or not so hidden - I suggested a number of additional or alternative causal factors to the ones you are mentioning again, in the very post you're responding to.

Not that I don't think campaign operatives and political elites with a strategic agenda were busily unfolding their the machinations, and those had a real impact. I'm sure they did.

I'm not sure I would accord them as dominant a determining influence as you do, however.

I do believe that we, who follow politics closely, tend to over-determine causes and effects, and in unwarranted self-confidence underestimate the contradictory and random elements of average voters' outlooks, motivations and decisions.

I feel that those who are focused overly on -- to use some loaded shorthand -- Beltway and NYC punditry tend to over-estimate the role of top-down politicking and machinations, vs the underlying tectonics of cultural undercurrents.

The coroner who examined Otto Warmbier's body has said there is no clear indication he had been tortured during his detention in North Korea.
The comments contradict statements made by the US student's parents in a TV interview with Fox on Tuesday.

The master of "whataboutism" sounds off!

Re: oralloy (Post 6511840)
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liberalism will be destroyed as a functional ideology in America

With Tax Cuts on the Table, Once-Mighty Deficit Hawks Hardly Chirp

..“It’s a great talking point when you have an administration that’s Democrat-led,” said Representative Mark Walker, Republican of North Carolina and the chairman of the Republican Study Committee, a group of about 150 conservative House members. “It’s a little different now that Republicans have both houses and the administration.”.

can anyone find one Democratic ad campaign as malicious, dishonest, and effective as the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth"? Anything as puerile as the birther lie? Anything as far-fetched and long-lived as the Clinton body count?

Yeah, that'll be great. I'll look forward to the race riots, growing economic division, and of course the benign effects of climate change. Sounds like a good time.

E.P.A. Threatens to Stop Funding Justice Dept. Environmental Work

Scott Pruitt, the Environmental Protection Agency administrator who has aggressively pushed to dismantle regulations and downsize the organization, is threatening to reach outside his agency and undermine the Justice Department’s work enforcing antipollution laws, documents and interviews show.

Under Mr. Pruitt, the E.P.A. has quietly said it may cut off a major funding source for the Justice Department’s Environment and Natural Resources Division. Its lawyers handle litigation on behalf of the E.P.A.’s Superfund program seeking to force polluters to pay for cleaning up sites they left contaminated with hazardous waste. The E.P.A. reimburses the Justice Department for that work, paying more than $20 million annually in recent years, or enough for 115 full-time employees, budget documents show.

But Mr. Pruitt has signaled that he wants to end those payments, potentially carving a major hole in the division’s budget, in a little-noticed line in the E.P.A.’s budget proposal in the spring.

Private jets scandal, tax plan test Trump's brand

Donald Trump's self styling as the people's champion who would drain the Washington swamp got him to the White House.

But now that unique brand is in for a stern test as the President is battered by controversies over wealthy cabinet members living high on the taxpayer dime and as he pushes a tax plan that Democrats are already billing as a massive giveaway to Trump's rich friends.

Trump's transformation from a billionaire Manhattan real-estate magnate who jetted around in a private Boeing, into an advocate for the crushed dreams of middle class Americans in the globalized economy was one of the most audacious and successful aspects of his presidential campaign.

His outsider screeds lambasting a Beltway establishment steeped in political corruption were a perfect fit for a time when many voters thought their politicians were getting fat on government salaries and Washington perks and getting nothing done.

That's one reason why Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price is now in deep trouble, amid a storm over his use of taxpayer dollars to finance flights on corporate jets -- even over short distances.

CNN reported Wednesday that Environmental Protection Agency administrator Scott Pruitt also used private planes for government business. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has also been under fire for requesting the use of a government plane during his European honeymoon.
Trump left Price twisting in the wind on Wednesday.

"I will tell you personally, I'm not happy about it," Trump told reporters. "I'm going to look at it. I let him know it."

Asked if he would fire Price, the President replied: "We'll see."

Whether Price keeps his job in the end, Trump's comments were a clear sign that the President understands that the secretary's conduct, and that of several other members of the cabinet who took private jets, strikes at the heart of the drain the swamp narrative that he used to such effect last year.

And since Trump has made no attempt to broaden his support since taking office, the continued loyal support of his political base is an existential requirement for his presidency -- one reason why he has stoked cultural and race controversies that resonate with his largely white, rural constituency, including his showdown with kneeling NFL players.

But the shenanigans of cabinet members are not the only apparent contradiction with the roots of Trumpism that the President is going to have to square in the coming weeks.

The tax reform plan that Trump unveiled in Indiana on Wednesday is already being attacked as a typical Republican approach, that critics say would hand huge benefits to the rich -- i.e. people like the President himself.

Selling the tax plan

With that in mind, Trump took care to frame the plan in terms that recalled the populist rhetoric of his campaign and the "American carnage" of shuttered factories and stolen jobs that he painted in his inaugural address.

"We're going to cut taxes for the middle class ... we are going to bring back the jobs and wealth that have left our country and most people thought left our country for good," Trump said.

"It's called a middle class miracle once again," he added. "It's also called a miracle for our great companies; a miracle for the middle class, for the working person."

The political problem here though is that Trump's description of the plan, his best hope of enacting a meaningful legislative reform before the mid-term elections next year, does not tell the whole story.

The proposals do call for a doubling of the standard deduction to $24,000 for married couples and $12,000 for single filers.

But the most sweeping overhaul of the tax system in generations also contains hefty giveaways for the wealthiest Americans, including in the abolition of the inheritance tax and proposes a cut in the corporate tax rate to 20%.

Trump argues this will lead to an explosion of economic growth that will create millions of jobs, and bring back firms from low wage economies overseas, and make everyone better off in a new era of highly charged growth.

But his approach has also offered a populist opening that Democrats will try to use in the months ahead to separate Trump from his electoral coalition, especially in the Midwest states that helped him secure victory last year.

"This is not tax reform - it's a thinly-veiled attempt to slash taxes for the wealthy while leaving the middle class, working families, and small business owners empty handed," said Democratic Rep. Joe Crowley of New York.

"This framework would also cause our national debt to spike, resulting in Republican leaders cutting even more from critical programs that help American families, like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, to offset the massive tax cuts they've gifted to the rich," he added.

Trump quickly tried to dispel the notion that he would personally benefit from his own changes to the tax system.

"It's not good for me, believe me," Trump said.

The President's refusal however to release his tax returns, breaking a tradition stretching back four decades, means that it is impossible to verify his claim.

Democrats are certain to use that omission to try again to pressure the President to reveal how much tax he pays -- though their efforts to damage him on the issue during the campaign foundered to their intense frustration.

Fighting for the middle class vote

Last year, according to exit polls, Trump succeeded in convincing voters that he would take care of the middle class better than Hillary Clinton would.

He narrowly won voters earning between $50,000 and $200,000 a year, who make up more than half of the total electorate. Attacks on the President's secrecy about his wealth looked promising for Democrats ahead of the general election campaign, but failed to disqualify Trump.

The question now is whether the unshakable connection with the middle class voters in Trump's base will remain rock solid as takes steps to change America that affect the money in everyone's wallets and as Washington controversies suggest members of his cabinet are hypocrites.

One reason why it might is that Trump's compact with his base voters is as much emotional, and tonal, as achieved by nitty gritty policy details that can be found in budgets and tax plans.

No candidate in years had grasped or voiced the economic grievances of people who did not recognize the economic progress wrought after the Great Recession that Democrats touted during the campaign.

While his Boeing had gold-plated seat belts, Trump was sometimes pictured sitting on it while munching a burger from a fast food chain while his earthy diction and politically incorrect stump speeches positioned him as a man of unsophisticated, and certainly not elite, tastes.

At the same time, Trump's tirades against trade deals with nations like China played into a belief among many people that such pacts had hollowed out the American dream, while building middle classes lives for citizens of adversary nations.

While some of his populist, nationalist advisers, like Steve Bannon, have now left his side, the President has been careful to highlight his suspicion of free trade pacts, ordering a renegotiation of NAFTA and a slamming a deal with US ally South Korea -- even amidst a nuclear showdown with the North.

That's all in the service of maintaining his connection to the voters that sent him to the Oval Office.

Whether he can retain his populist image as President will go a long way to dictating the course of next year's mid-term elections -- as Democrats try to win back voters in the decayed industrial heartlands. It will also be crucial in Trump's quest to revive his Midwest map to get to 270 electoral votes in 2020, his re-election year.

So, do you all think Trump's NFL kneeling players and Charlottesville and his subsequent comments are a deliberate strategy to keep his base riled up for his tax plan as well as geared to his re-election?

Moral turpitude on one person's or group's part does not excuse moral turpitude on the part of anyone else or any other group.

I find this extreme right wing notion that liberalism is worse than illegitimate - it is anti-American, inevitably destructive to civic life and perhaps even Satanic - very interesting.

In '92, this was a/they key message being pushed by Pat Buchanan

President Trump has some history with the late Hugh Hefner and the Playboy empire he left behind.

During the 2016 election, when Trump's history with women was being put under a microscope, it was reported that he appeared in a 2000 Playboy softcore porn video in which he pops a bottle of champagne and pours it on the Playboy bunny logo.

Over the years Trump did publicity stunts with Playboy and partied with Hefner and the Playboy playmates.

“Ironically, given who Trump supported, what got Moore nominated is what got Trump nominated,” said Anna Greenberg, a Democratic pollster. “What’s going on is bigger than Trump, and he is just a vehicle.”

Setanta wrote:

Moral turpitude on one person's or group's part does not excuse moral turpitude on the part of anyone else or any other group.

I strongly disagree. If one party gets away with wrongdoing, it is repugnant for them to then turn around and want to punish others for what they have flagrantly gotten away with.