But, I still avoid bums covered in snot, wandering around the subway station, screaming about the apocalypse. Just good sense. Along with right wing lying scumbag haters!
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oralloy
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Sun 24 Sep, 2017 08:41 pm
@Real Music,
Real Music wrote:
I disagree with your assessment of what the Black Lives Movement is about.
The only thing they do is oppose the right of police officers to defend themselves when black people try to murder them. That would seem to be a pretty strong indicator as to what they are all about.
Groups tend to fight for whatever cause they believe in, not for causes that they don't believe in.
Real Music wrote:
I believe the Black Lives Movement is a very worthy important cause.
How exactly is the murder of police officers a worthy cause?
Real Music wrote:
The movement helped put a spotlight on an important issue that needed to be addressed.
What exactly is the problem with police officers defending themselves when black people try to murder them?
Real Music wrote:
Many people don't understand the movement and how it all got started. I am not certain if you understand the Black Lives Movement (BLM).
Their efforts to punish police officers for daring to defend themselves when black people try to murder them make it pretty clear what they are all about.
Real Music wrote:
Here is a youtube video of the three black women who founded and started the Black Lives Movemet. There names are Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi. For anyone who wants to know the context of the movement and how it all got started, here is a youtube video of the actual founders of the movement in their own words.
In The Summer of 2013,
#BLACKLIVESMATTER Went Viral
A Movement was born
That shows them referring to self defense against Trayvon Martin as murder, as if it was somehow wrong for Mr. Zimmerman to defend himself.
So they wanted Trayvon Martin to be able to go around murdering people with impunity.
That link says that the movement was formed because they were upset that Mr. Zimmerman was not punished for defending himself when Trayvon Martin tried to murder him, and upset when Officer Wilson was not punished for defending himself when Michael Brown tried to murder him.
Well I can certainly do that. But you didn't see anyplace where I was factually wrong did you?
Didn't the link that you posted show that they were upset because Mr. Zimmerman and Officer Wilson were not punished for defending themselves?
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BillW
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Sun 24 Sep, 2017 09:43 pm
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Though (Preet) Bharara and Trump do not see eye to eye on many issues, he does not underestimate the President.
"I think that the people who go around saying that the President is not smart are wrong," Bharara told CNN. "This idea that people want to infantilize him gives him not enough credit. To say that someone is just spouting off in a tantrum is to suggest that he's not intentional about the harm he's doing and about the people he's attacking. I think he's very intentional about it."
That shows them referring to self defense against Trayvon Martin as murder, as if it was somehow wrong for Mr. Zimmerman to defend himself.
So they wanted Trayvon Martin to be able to go around murdering people with impunity.
The fact that you would make a comment like "they wanted Trayvon Martin to be able to go around murdering people with impunity" demonstrates to me that the founders of #BLACKLIVESMATTER movement was absolutely correct. In the youtube video the founders of Black Lives Matter commented that there are people out there who are attempting to make the victim (Treyvon Martin) out to be the bad guy and the murderer-(George Zimmerman) out to be the good guy who was supposedly defending himself. Which, by the way, is exactly what you, Oralloy are doing. Let's not forget that Treyvon Martin, (the real victim) was a 17 year old black teenager walking back home from the store with a bag of skittles minding his own business. He was being stalked by a grown man name George Zimmerman at night. George Zimmerman was instructed by the police dispatch not to follow Treyvon and that the police will come out and take care of everything. Zimmerman ignored those instructions of the police dispatcher. Zimmerman continued to stalk the real victim (Treyvon Martin). After stalking Treyvon, George Zimmerman decided to take upon himself to confront Treyvon. Remember that Treyvon had done nothing wrong. Treyvon was minding his own business walking back home with a bag of skittles. Remember that George Zimmerman was the one who called the police. Remember that George Zimmerman had been instructed to stay away, not to confront Treyvon, and to let police take care of the everything. Remember that George Zimmerman initiated the confrontation. Remember, if anyone felt threaten for their personal safety, it would be the 17 year teenager being stalked by a grown man at night. Remember that the victim (Treyvon Martin) was unarmed. I also seem to remember that the police took Zimmerman word to what happen as being factual. I seem to remember the police did not arrest Zimmerman until the next day due only to public pressure. I also seem to remember that the (wanna be cop) George Zimmerman had previously applied to become a police officer and was denied and rejected. I forgot what was the reason for his police application denial. During the unnecessary confrontation initiated by the stalker George Zimmerman resulted in the death of Treyvon Martin. Since Treyvon Martin is DEAD, we will never get to hear his version of what happen that night. All of this is what I remember about the George Zimmerman and Treyvon Martin case. All of this is from my memory of the case. If any of the details are not exactly accurate, remember this is strictly from my memory of the case.
As far as I can remember, the American audience and the players have always stood during the national anthem. So, I can't really say for sure when that tradition actually started.
“Players are encouraged but not required to stand during the playing of the National Anthem,” the NFL said in a statement issued Saturday, in response to the controversy that emerged when 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick opted not to stand during the playing of the national anthem on Friday night in Santa Clara, prior to a game against the Packers.
I, personally, think patriotism is kind of strange.
To make it mandatory for public figures, is borderline fascist.
