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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
BillW
 
  5  
Wed 20 Sep, 2017 04:57 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

oralloy says:
Quote:
Donald Trump is the president of all American citizens.


Two thirds of whom detest him.

That is up to tRump, and his determination is he is pResident of less than 30% of the country.

I don't think it matters a whole lot because I believe Mueller is going after a RICO charge. He won't be around after Feb/Mar.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 20 Sep, 2017 05:07 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
You really are trying to sugar coat him, aren't you?

Facts are facts.


MontereyJack wrote:
Yes, I think :detest:" is the applicable termto describe the views of the two thirds of the country which has no use for him at all..

It isn't. Only the left detests him. And they detest everyone who does the right thing.
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reasoning logic
 
  1  
Wed 20 Sep, 2017 05:10 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
RL has, at best, a tenuous grip on reality. He goes to youtube for information and shows not the least discrimination or discernment in his choices.


I guess this could be subjectively true at times.

Quote:
Hot shot there went to youtube, until he found an amateurish and implausible, pro-Japanese short, which did not actually address the massacre. My advice to you is not to waste your time attempting to engage with that individual.


So your advice to others is not to pay attention to me or others you have disagreed with in the past?
When I came to Able2know 6 or 7 years ago I had never typed before or had in-depth conversations with logical people.

Because I was very naïve and misinformed more so than what I am today you find good reason to tell others to pay me no attention?

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reasoning logic
 
  -3  
Wed 20 Sep, 2017 05:56 pm
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Setanta
 
  7  
Wed 20 Sep, 2017 06:51 pm
Remember kids, this thread is not about Clinton, regardless of the direction in which the right-wing operatives would like to take it.

I find it hilarious that rightwingnuts whine and allege that people on the left call anyone who disagrees with them a Nazi. I mean, really, just because someone wears a swastika, gives a straight arm salute or carries a Nazi flag, that doesn't mean they're a bad person. Rolling Eyes

https://carolynyeager.net/sites/default/files/same%20guy_flag.jpg

https://harrisoncountydems.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/nazi-rally.jpg

But hey, they're good people--President Plump told us they are!
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Wed 20 Sep, 2017 10:52 pm
Hey did anyone see that pants suit Hillary was wearing on TV the other night?

Not only is she crooked, and psychotically ambitious, she simply has zero fashion sense!
glitterbag
 
  3  
Wed 20 Sep, 2017 11:11 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
You might be right, Donald Trump looks like he sleeps in his clothes, doesn't polish his shoes, is fat, repulsive and has a hair do that reminds folks of a pathetic Roman helmet tribute.......and clothes are so freaking important, you would think Trump would spring a few bucks on his (oh for Christ's sake) ties. Yeah, Hillary has no fashion sense.....and she never posed for soft porn.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 12:49 am
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North Korea's top diplomat has called US President Donald Trump's speech to the UN "the sound of a barking dog".
Speaking to the UN General Assembly on Wednesday, Mr Trump said he would "totally destroy" North Korea if it posed a threat to the US or its allies.
Foreign Minister Ri Yong-ho's comments were North Korea's first official response to the speech.
The North has continued to develop its nuclear and weapons programmes, in defiance of a UN ban.
Mr Ri told reporters near the UN headquarters in New York: "There is a saying that goes: 'Even when dogs bark, the parade goes on'."
"If [Trump] was thinking about surprising us with the sound of a barking dog then he is clearly dreaming."
Speaking about North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, Mr Trump had told the UN: "Rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and his regime."
When asked what he thought of Mr Trump calling Mr Kim "rocket man", Mr Ri responded: "I feel sorry for his aides."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41343646
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 12:58 am
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The probe into alleged Russian meddling in the US election is reportedly seeking White House files on President Donald Trump's time in office.
Documents on Mr Trump's sacking of the FBI director and his son's meeting with a Russian lawyer are the target of the inquiry, report US media.
They say special counsel Robert Mueller has outlined to the White House 13 areas of interest to his investigation.
According to reports in the New York Times and Washington Post on Wednesday evening, Mr Mueller is also interested in files relating to Mr Trump's February sacking of Michael Flynn, his first national security adviser.
Mr Mueller is furthermore said to be looking into the Oval Office meeting in which Mr Trump told Russian officials that firing "nut job" FBI chief James Comey in May had relieved "great pressure" on himself.
The special counsel reportedly asked for documents, too, on the White House's response to questions about Donald Trump Jr's June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer. Mr Trump's eldest son was led to believe the meeting would yield damaging information about his father's Democratic presidential opponent Hillary Clinton.
Ty Cobb, Mr Trump's lawyer, told Mr Mueller's office he would turn over several documents this week, according to the Times.
"We can't comment on any specific requests being made or our conversations with the special counsel," Mr Cobb said in a statement.
Mr Mueller has also asked for any White House emails or documents relating to Paul Manafort, the former chief of the Trump campaign, reports the Washington Post.
Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mr Mueller, declined a request for comment from Reuters news agency.
Mr Manafort quit the campaign before the election amid questions about his work for a Ukrainian political party linked to the Russian government.
Earlier this week it was reported by CNN and CBS News that Mr Manafort was wiretapped by the FBI due to concerns about his links with Moscow.
FBI agents raided Mr Manafort's suburban Washington DC home in July, with agents reportedly picking the locks as he lay in bed.
Several congressional committees and the Justice Department are looking into US intelligence findings that Russian-backed hackers tried to sway last November's election in favour of Mr Trump.
The Kremlin has poured scorn on the allegations.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41341899
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hightor
 
  4  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 02:47 am
Because we all know there's not a more qualified individual in the entire world to do this:

Quote:
Paul J. Manafort, the former campaign chairman for President Trump who is at the center of investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, is working for allies of the leader of Iraq’s Kurdish region to help administer and promote a referendum on Kurdish independence from Iraq.

NYT
Builder
 
  0  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 03:12 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Because we all know there's not a more qualified individual in the entire world to do this:


Trump is here to tell you all that democracy is dead and buried under a mountain of fiat cash in the US of A.

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izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 03:30 am
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South Korea has approved an $8m (£5.9m) aid package for North Korea, in a humanitarian gesture at odds with calls by Japan and the US for unwavering economic and diplomatic pressure on Pyongyang.

South Korea’s unification ministry agreed to provide the funds, which will go towards programmes for infants and pregnant women, days after the UN security council agreed a further round of sanctions in response to the regime’s recent nuclear test.

The ministry, which oversees cross-border relations, said humanitarian aid to impoverished North Korea should remain unaffected by rising political tensions on the peninsula.

The aid package did not include cash payments, the ministry said, and there was “realistically no possibility” that it could be of any use to the North Korean military.

South Korea’s unification minister, Cho Myung-gyon, said the government had “consistently said we would pursue humanitarian aid for North Korea in consideration of the poor conditions there among children and pregnant women”.

The decision is a break with the hardline policy on aid pursued by Seoul since the start of last year. It also risks causing a rift with the US and Japan, which regard engagement as a concession to North Korea, while it accelerates its nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programmes.

The Japanese prime minister, Shinzo Abe, reportedly asked the South Korean president, Moon Jae-in, to reconsider the timing of the aid package in a recent telephone call. Japan’s government spokesman, Yoshihide Suga, said it could undermine international efforts to put pressure on North Korea.

About $4.5m of nutrition-rich supplies will be distributed to children and pregnant women through the UN World Food Programme. A further $3.5m will go to Unicef to fund vaccinations and treatments for diarrhoea, acute respiratory diseases and malnutrition, the unification ministry said.

The ministry said the timing of the shipments would be announced at a later date.

Unicef’s regional director for East Asia and the Pacific, Karin Hulshof, said North Korean children faced problems that were “all too real”.

“Today, we estimate that about 200,000 children are affected by acute malnutrition, heightening their risk of death and increasing rates of stunting,” Hulshof said. “Food and essential medicines and equipment to treat young children are in short supply.”

An estimated 18 million of North Korea’s 25 million people require assistance due to food shortages and malnutrition, according to the UN. The World Health Organization estimates the mortality rate among North Korean children aged five and under at 25 per 1,000, compared with three in every 1,000 in South Korea.

Moon’s conservative predecessor Park Geun-hye halted humanitarian aid to North Korea after the regime conducted a nuclear test in January 2016.

The decision to resume aid is unpopular among many South Koreans. Realmeter, a South Korean polling organisation, said the measure had dented Moon’s popularity, although his approval rating is still high at just over 65%.

Moon, Abe and Donald Trump are due to discuss the North Korean crisis on the sidelines of the UN general assembly later on Thursday.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/21/south-korea-approves-8m-aid-package-for-north-korea
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Setanta
 
  3  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 03:50 am
I enjoyed Rouhani's speech at the United Nations. I especially liked his comment about "rogue newcomers to the world of politics."

Report on Rouhani's speech at Vox
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blatham
 
  4  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 04:15 am
@Lash,
It's good that you are getting yourself educated on neoconservativism. But as a GWBush supporter, you're about fifteen years late in getting to this study. World hegemony through military domination was a key element of this political philosophy and that was stated explicitly in the PNAC literature.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 04:21 am
@blatham,
It's also quite simplistic, military intervention is neither good nor bad, it depends on the circumstances. The West was right to intervene in Kosovo and Sierra Leone. Iraq was a complete disaster and that was obvious from the beginning. Afghanistan could have worked had America not made such a pig's ear of the whole process, it was underfunded and poorly planned which lead to resentment amongst the locals.
blatham
 
  4  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 04:21 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
I am amused that Sofie Lash Goth has also just labeled herself a Trump supporter.

Quote:
Sofie Lash Goth wrote:
Waiting for my president to come up with an Elton John song title to zing him with.


I suppose we should be grateful for the small mercy of that unlooked for candor on her part.

Yes, indeed.
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 04:26 am
@snood,
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The mandate absolutely must include.that Santa has very dark skin, a kente clothe turban, and a prayer blanket on which to kneel and face west on his frequent prayer breaks.
Good idea there. Let's also have Mrs Claus as a transgender First Nations individual.
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blatham
 
  3  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 04:33 am
@ehBeth,
Jesus Christ! Now that is an interesting effect. As cynical as I have become, I am still continually surprised and dismayed at the permanence of racism in America, particularly in the South.

I'd wager that a similar effect could be graphed showing evangelicals' positive/negative regard for Russia before/after Trump.
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 04:45 am
@izzythepush,
The new Burns documentary on the Vietnam war is tough to watch but it's necessary to watch. I hope you can find some means to view it where you are, I'm certain you'll find it of great interest.
Lash
 
  -2  
Thu 21 Sep, 2017 05:08 am
@Setanta,
You're pretty desperate, aren't you? Unfortunately, he's the American president right now.

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