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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

When did the Intell community lie to Congress.....Are you thinking of Ollie North? Yeah, Ollie is a scum bag and had no problem deceiving the Intell Community....but I think he was pardoned. Good for Ol Ollie.

BTW - North was a staff member of the National Security Council not any intelligence agency and perhaps he deceived one or more Intel Agencies, but he was tried and convicted in connection with a violation of the Boland Amendment, obstruction of a congressional investigation and one or two less meaty charges.

With the help of the ACLU, North appealed his conviction and the Court of Appeals reversed them and all charges were dismissed.

No pardon so you are 0-2.

As far as him being a scumbag:

North was a decorated Marine hero in the Vietnam War receiving the Silver Star, the Bronze Star, two Purple Hearts and 17 other awards and decorations.

No doubt your service to our country involved, even more, peril and heroism, which is why you can degrade his.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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So all left-wing activists, pundits, politicians, and crony-capitalists are the same as nurses, PTA members, MLK and a Republican president?

(think sarcasm)

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

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So all left-wing activists, pundits, politicians, and crony-capitalists are the same as nurses, PTA members, MLK and a Republican president?

(think sarcasm)

Obviously, he was being sarcastic (when is he not), but there was more to it than that. We'll have to wait for his reply, but don't underestimate Bernie's dedication to the cause.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

I can go on like this for quite a while.

Boy, don't we all know that!

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Suffice it to say that Sofia/Lash has been after the Clintons for a very long time. This is why I have never believed that she was a sincere Sanders supporter.

Because someone who has never appreciated an utterly corrupt pair of politicians can't possibly support Sanders? Interesting.

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All she is doing now, in a thread about Trump, is attempting to make the conversation about Clinton rather than Trump. It's just what Blickers was talking about.

You mean the bit about her being a Russian troll? Rolling Eyes

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Long, long ago, when Lash was still Sofia, we had a brief exchange about her political leanings. She was and always has been a conservative. I don't believe the leopard has changed her spots, and I don't believe she ever had any agenda when claiming to be a Sanders supporter other than bashing Clinton.

No doubt she will be devastated about your lack of faith.

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When Finny makes his completely unconvincing and smarmy remarks about a Sanders supporter, referring to Lash, I don't buy that either. I think he knows full well that that was phony from the word go.

Once again the kettle calls the pot black, and once again you are 100% wrong about what I think or know. I was surprised by her change of view, but I've zero reason to believe it was phony. I used to be a flaming liberal, but I guess you assume my conversion was phony too. It's tough keeping up with paranoid delusions.

(Oh, and better to be smarmy than a sexist clod)

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So let's not enable the sleazy conservatives. This thread is about President Plump, it's not about Clinton.

If you are suggesting that no one responds to Lash or me, please be the first one to take your advice. This thread, like every other in this forum is what the members make of it. If you don't like it, return to your home under that bridge.

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@blatham,

Hey, don't forget the Federal employees loafing at the expense of the long suffering taxpayer.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Some people on the political left condemned Stalin and exposed his atrocities; for example, the socialist Norman Thomas -- who, ironically speaking, was to the left of FDR (of whom, by the way, I'm not a fan). On the political right, some expressed admiration for Hitler until Nazi Germany declared war on the U.S. At that time in our nation's history, U.S. Senators of both parties publicly expressed antisemitism. What is my point? Both sides have had (and continue to have) shameful episodes in their history.

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

Well, sadly I had to look up Linda Sarsour...... and I suppose the Empress of all womanhood will be pissed I didn't know who she is. . So now I'm in trouble with the HMMC and the Clique.

That was sad.

It doesn't matter whether or not you previously knew of Sarsour (but it is becoming increasingly apparent that you don't know quite a few things). That you responded to another woman the way she did makes you two of a kind regardless of whether you know of one another.

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@wmwcjr,

And that was pretty much my point, but blatham seems to think all evil flows from the right.

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

Hey, don't forget the Federal employees loafing at the expense of the long suffering taxpayer.

Hits close to home does it?

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The 50's when ANY American was supporting Stalin?????? Did you have a medical excuse to skip history classes when you were growing up???? Maybe you are just a John Bircher......either way, you have been denied an education.

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@glitterbag,

Let's be clear. Are you asserting American Leftists never supported Stalin or only that American Leftists in the 50's didn't?

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

glitterbag wrote:

Well, sadly I had to look up Linda Sarsour...... and I suppose the Empress of all womanhood will be pissed I didn't know who she is. . So now I'm in trouble with the HMMC and the Clique.

That was sad.

It doesn't matter whether or not you previously knew of Sarsour (but it is becoming increasingly apparent that you don't know quite a few things). That you responded to another woman the way she did makes you two of a kind regardless of whether you know of one another.

Wait just one goddamn minute, me and Sarsour or me and Lash......I may get pissed. 🌪

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@glitterbag,

I was under the impression that your being pissed was your normal state of being.

As for your question, I've little idea of what you are asking, but let me guess and answer that, of course, I was comparing you to Sarsour. If the shoe fits...

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Ahhhh Finn ol boy, you are embarrassing yourself.

And if you promise to not snitch, I'm not going to look up anything else on the Sansour woman. Sorry, ol pal, just can't generate the enthusiasm.........but I'm relieved you weren't talking about that other person, that I simply could not abide.

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@glitterbag,

Really?

How so?

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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So all left-wing activists, pundits, politicians, and crony-capitalists are the same as nurses, PTA members, MLK and a Republican president?

Is that really what you are saying?

No. I'm pointing out that your description of what motivates individuals to become politicians was glib and cynical. Some people going into any profession will enter it for non-optimal motivations (cops who wish to dominate others, teachers or nurses who incorrectly imagine the jobs easy and with not bad pay, lawyers who want to make a lot of dough, politicians who want to herd citizens to Jesus, etc). Once ensconced in their profession, their behavior tends to demonstrate the actual motivations that put them there. Most lawyers aren't sharks. Most police aren't bullies. Most bureaucrats aren't totalitarians. Most politicians aren't little Caesars.

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@glitterbag,

I note your edited reply, but you still haven't answered my question or the one about Stalin apologists.

(I'm sure Lash will cry herself to sleep when she learns that you simply can't abide her)

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Margaret Sullivan has a great column up now. Do read it.

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Here’s the best thing the media can do when reporting on ‘antifa’

WP

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@blatham,

And yet you seem to believe that virtually everyone who advances conservatism (Unless of course, they write something with which you agree) is sinister. Who is cynical? (You've misused "glib," I was entirely sincere)

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@blatham,

I read a take on antifa on Slate about an hour ago. It cleared up some questions for me.
Er, I was sure it was Slate. Now to find the article.

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