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reasoning logic
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 05:13 pm
@emmett grogan,
Quote:
No. I am progressive Republican. I believe in capitalism - regulated capitalism. I'm a tax and save Republican.


I thought I was strange. Shocked

I'm an atheist who enjoys 99% of what Jesus shared in the bible. I'm a socialist conservative who thinks everyone should work in some way to help better society and themselves.

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wmwcjr
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 05:24 pm
@ossobucotemp,
ossobucotemp wrote:

Setanta wrote:
What truly appalled me was how he was "excited" by his reception in Corpus Christi, as though it were some f*cking campaign rally. I wouldn't let that @sshole dogsit for me.


Or even watch my goldfish, if I had goldfish.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gG5MAtBxn7U/hqdefault.jpg
"Well, I do believe that you are mistaken. The President is doing a great job!"
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snood
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 05:45 pm
@emmett grogan,
I don't know if you're bobsal, but you sure do post entirely too many, too long cut and pastes exactly like bobsal. Can you give us a break and just post an excerpt and a link - like EVERYONE else does?
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Real Music
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 06:44 pm
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/30/manafort-mueller-probe-attorney-general-242191

Mueller teams up with New York attorney general in
Manafort probe

Quote:
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team is working with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman on its investigation into Paul Manafort and his financial transactions, according to several people familiar with the matter.

The cooperation is the latest indication that the federal probe into President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman is intensifying. It also could potentially provide Mueller with additional leverage to get Manafort to cooperate in the larger investigation into Trump’s campaign, as Trump does not have pardon power over state crimes.

The two teams have shared evidence and talked frequently in recent weeks about a potential case, these people said. One of the people familiar with progress on the case said both Mueller’s and Schneiderman’s teams have collected evidence on financial crimes, including potential money laundering.

No decision has been made on where or whether to file charges. “Nothing is imminent,” said one of the people familiar with the case.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 07:47 pm
@oralloy,
Someone ought to tell oralloy:

oralloy wrote:

Mass pardons will make short work of the witch hunt.


Trump can't pardon State charges, so this is very, very bad news for him.

Why you thought for a second that Trump the chucklefuck could outwit anyone is frankly a mystery to me. He's made a tremendous mistake in exposing himself by running for president.

Cycloptichorn
snood
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 07:58 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Mueller seems very determined to unearth the whole ugly mess. It's encouraging.
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oralloy
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 08:43 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Trump can't pardon State charges, so this is very, very bad news for him.

How many members of the Trump administration have violated state laws? I'd say very very few, if any at all (and most likely none at all).

But if necessary Trump could always fall back on firing the witchhunter.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 08:52 pm
@oralloy,
Trump can't fire the AG of NY.

Also, Trump and most of his team are from NYC and did extensive business there. Including his kids. You are kidding yourself if you think he is insulated in any way from problems from that direction.

Really, though, they're going to flip Manafort and Flynn and roll them up on him. Trump lies constantly and reflexively and it's going to get messy when they start testifying that he knew about the Russian thing all along, as well as a bunch of money laundering.

Cycloptichorn
oralloy
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 08:54 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Quote:
Trump Reportedly Feels Betrayed by Cabinet, and His Mood Is the 'Worst It's Ever Been'

That has left the president’s mindset as “the worst it’s ever been,” according to the Politico source.

“He feels like this is not what he signed up for, and his accomplishments are being underplayed,” the source said. “He just looks around and says, ‘When is this going to get better?’”

Never, you ******* dimwit. It'll never get even slightly better.

Cycloptichorn

I don't know. I think we could make things better by outlawing the Democratic Party in America due to all of their witchhunting against innocent people. Ending the witchhunts would allow Trump to focus his attention back on restoring prosperity to the working class.
fbaezer
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 09:01 pm
Neo-Nazis think their Führer is allmighty.
oralloy
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 09:06 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Trump can't fire the AG of NY.

True, but I doubt he broke any NY laws.


Cycloptichorn wrote:
Also, Trump and most of his team are from NYC and did extensive business there. Including his kids. You are kidding yourself if you think he is insulated in any way from problems from that direction.

I doubt there are problems from that direction to begin with. This is just a witch hunt.

If we get rid of the Democratic Party we'll take a big step toward doing away with such witch hunts.


Cycloptichorn wrote:
Really, though, they're going to flip Manafort and Flynn and roll them up on him. Trump lies constantly and reflexively and it's going to get messy when they start testifying that he knew about the Russian thing all along, as well as a bunch of money laundering.

Cycloptichorn

Knowing about a Russia thing isn't a crime. Pretty unlikely that there was any money laundering. If there was, what's the statute of limitations on it?
Blickers
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 09:08 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
I think we could make things better by outlawing the Democratic Party in America due to all of their witchhunting against innocent people. Ending the witchhunts would allow Trump to focus his attention back on restoring prosperity to the working class.

I think Trump's time would be more profitably spent arranging his resignation and swift relocation to Russia to avoid prosecution. Mueller is quietly and systematically collecting evidence and turning Trump's business associates to turn evidence, and when his report is turned in, Trump's goose will be cooked. RT videos with Trump's new Russian TV show will be all over YouTube once he moves/absconds, complete with paid Russian trolls praising Trump's pronouncements on "The Deep State" and "The New World Order" in the comments section.
oralloy
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 09:09 pm
@fbaezer,
fbaezer wrote:
Neo-Nazis think their Führer is allmighty.

When liberals can't make a positive argument, they resort to calling everyone a Nazi.
snood
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 09:12 pm
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/28/today_s_impeach_o_meter_russia_stuff_returns/RUSSIAUSPOLITICSTOURISMPUTINTRUMP.jpeg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpeg
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oralloy
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 09:15 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
I think Trump's time would be more profitably spent arranging his resignation and swift relocation to Russia to avoid prosecution. Mueller is quietly and systematically collecting evidence and turning Trump's business associates to turn evidence, and when his report is turned in, Trump's goose will be cooked. RT videos with Trump's new Russian TV show will be all over YouTube once he moves/absconds, complete with paid Russian trolls praising Trump's pronouncements on "The Deep State" and "The New World Order" in the comments section.

Mueller is no danger to Trump. It is fairly unlikely that he will be able to show that Trump committed any crime (for the simple reason that it is unlikely that Trump committed any crime).

In the rather unlikely event that he does manage to show that Trump committed a crime somewhere, no one is going to care after the Democrats allowed Bill Clinton to commit all those felonies in the White House.

All the Democrats are really doing is building up a strong case for outlawing their party.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 09:17 pm
@oralloy,
How is the investigation keeping him from helping the middle class? I mean, isn't the issue that the Republican party is having a hard time passing bills at all? Mueller and Schneiderman's investigation isn't preventing Trump and the Congressional GOP from doing anything at all.

What more, I wonder exactly what it is that you think Trump is proposing that would actually help the middle class.

Cycloptichorn
Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 09:19 pm
@oralloy,
Haha, there is no 'statute of limitations' in politics, man.

Cycloptichorn
oralloy
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 09:26 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
How is the investigation keeping him from helping the middle class?

It is taking up most of the focus in Washington that would otherwise be used to drive Trump's agenda forward. It also reduces Trump's ability to pressure legislators.


Cycloptichorn wrote:
I mean, isn't the issue that the Republican party is having a hard time passing bills at all?

That is primarily caused by the Democrats' witch hunt against Trump.


Cycloptichorn wrote:
Mueller and Schneiderman's investigation isn't preventing Trump and the Congressional GOP from doing anything at all.

Actually it is. And that was the entire intent of the investigation to begin with.


Cycloptichorn wrote:
What more, I wonder exactly what it is that you think Trump is proposing that would actually help the middle class.

Probably it would involve populist anti-trade policies. But regardless, I know that it's the fault of the Democrats' witch hunting that it isn't getting done.
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oralloy
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 09:30 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Haha, there is no 'statute of limitations' in politics, man.

Any criminal charges against Trump's family members would be heard in court, where there is very much a statute of limitations.
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Blickers
 
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Wed 30 Aug, 2017 10:17 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
Mueller is no danger to Trump. It is fairly unlikely that he will be able to show that Trump committed any crime (for the simple reason that it is unlikely that Trump committed any crime).

Money laundering for the Russkies for two decades is a crime. And Mueller is setting the stage slowly, deliberately and effectively. Trump's about to go down, and deep down inside he knows it.

Quote oralloy:
Quote:
In the rather unlikely event that he does manage to show that Trump committed a crime somewhere, no one is going to care after the Democrats allowed Bill Clinton to commit all those felonies in the White House.

Bill lied about getting nookie in the White House, something presidents have been doing since time immemorial. The only reason they didn't lie is because people back then were too discreet to ask. The greedy Republicans changed that when they went after Bill. The stuff Trump's doing with America's traditional enemy Russia makes Monica look like a couple of doctored parking tickets.
 

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