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revelette1
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 10:58 am
@Lash,
Well, that is one version of the events, and then there is another from Berkley. People are free to believe what they want.

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But a university spokesman said organizers of the speech didn't follow proper protocol and that the speech was never formally scheduled.

"Ms. Coulter and speakers regardless of their position are welcome on this campus," spokesman Dan Mogulof said.

He said the school asks for two months' notice of an event so it can work out logistics and security. The school was tentatively notified by an email in mid-March that said the group was hoping to get Coulter to appear in late April or in the fall.

No specific date was discussed, he said.

University officials learned of the event being scheduled for April 27 when they read about it in a newspaper, he said.

The school scrambled to find a venue, Mogulof said.

"We know how to do this, but we can't do what we want to do to facilitate those speakers if the groups that want to invite them and host them don't work with us in the way that they need to," he said.


CNN
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izzythepush
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 11:35 am
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The South American trading bloc Mercosur has condemned President Trump for saying he was considering military action in the Venezuela crisis.
Argentina said dialogue and diplomacy were the only ways to promote democracy in Venezuela.
Mercosur - which includes the region's largest economies Argentina and Brazil as well as Paraguay and Uruguay - indefinitely suspended Venezuela's membership last week.
Other Latin American countries also condemned Mr Trump's comments, including Mexico, Colombia and Peru, which said Mr Trump's threat was against UN principles.
Peru has been a fierce critic of Mr Maduro's government. On Friday Peru expelled Venezuela's ambassador after Caracas sent an "unacceptable" response to regional condemnation of its new constituent assembly.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-40912523
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Real Music
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 11:41 am
http://gazette.com/republican-cory-gardner-reprimands-trump-for-charlottesville-remarks-call-evil-by-its-name/article/1608999

Republican Cory Gardner reprimands Trump for Charlottesville remarks: ‘Call evil by its name’
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U.S. Sen. Cory Gardner, a Colorado Republican, called out President Donald Trump on Saturday for failing to blame white supremacists for escalating violence in Virginia that has claimed at least one life.

“Mr. President – we must call evil by its name,” Gardner said in a tweet. “These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism.”

Gardner was reacting to comments delivered by Trump from his New Jersey golf club blaming “many sides” for clashes between protesters and white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Trump came under heavy criticism Saturday for refusing to single out white nationalists and others involved in organizing the Charlottesville rally, including neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klan members.

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides,” Trump said. The president ignored reporters’ questions asking what he thought about the white nationalists at the rally who said they support him and were inspired by his presidential campaign.

Gardner’s Democratic colleague, U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet, made a similar point on Twitter Saturday afternoon.

“Today’s attack is not the result of ‘many sides’ — it’s an act of domestic terrorism,” Bennet said in a tweet. “@POTUS should explicitly denounce white supremacy.”

The mayhem was sparked when leaders of the so-called alt-right movement rallied supporters on Friday to protest the city’s decision to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a park. Hours after violence erupted Saturday morning between the white nationalists and counter-protesters, a car plowed into a group of people peacefully protesting the rally, killing at least one and injuring at least 26, the Associated Press reported.

In an earlier tweet, Gardner had condemned the violence perpetrated by white nationalists as “domestic terrorism.”

Gardner and Bennet had earlier denounced the white nationalist rally as “deeply disturbing” and “contrary to all we stand for as a country.”

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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 12:27 pm
@blatham,
I think the thrust of this post is very clear, but you have obviously taken care to limit your accusation to the realm of insinuation, and there are numerous instances of you and others retreating from insinuations once confronted. At the same time, I've misinterpreted more than one post in the past, so I'm going to tell you how I read this post and provide you the opportunity to tell me how I am mistaken.

It's a nicely constructed post by the way. You begin with introducing the concept of Republican operatives infiltrating Democrat campaigns to make mischief and manufacture incidents or narratives that will reflect poorly on those campaigns.

(True to form, you frame this sort of political sabotage as exclusively within the GOP bag of dirty tricks)

Next you quote one of Lash's posts in which she provided a link to an American Spectator article criticizing the Antifa, and her own comment where she clearly labels the Antifa as fascists.Your helpful introduction to the article informs your followers how you expect them to react to it, followed by instructions to check out the author's Wikipedia page, so there's no chance they won't find the pieces disagreeable. Of course the author, Emmett Tyrrell Jr. can be found in "Blatham's Who's Who in The Vast Rightwing Conspiracy", and therefore there is no possibility whatsoever that anything he writes about Antifa could be accurate.

Finally, the insinuation is delivered Socratic style; in the form of a question:

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What do you surmise are the chances that a die-hard supporter of Sanders (who is, after all, a serious progressive, in fact, a declared socialist) is going to be attending to Emmett Tyrrell, promoting him here, and coming down on the side of white supremacists, nazis, racists and Klansmen rather than those protesting against such ideologies?


I could read this question 1,000 times and each time identify the same insinuation:

Lash,like "one of the most vocal Bernie Bros supporters at the Dem convention (who) was later revealed as a right wing provocateur", and members of ClintonsForMcCain, "actually a covert RNC operation", is a Republican Troll! Her GOP handlers have given her the very important and high profile assignment of "spreading disaffection" and division among key progressives, socialists and Democrat voters: The A2K left-wing membership!

What's left unsaid, but lurks below the surface, is the certainty that since the Movement Conservative Cabal has had to, by now, discovered that there is a progressive prophet in this forum who has been brilliantly peeling back the layers of the Conservative Onion and exposing it's rotten core to his followers here. They, in turn, have been sharing what they have learned with other influential progressives across the nation. Once GOP web operatives began reporting back to HQ that they were finding, with ever growing frequency, references to a liberal savant from Canada who, with his piercing insight and witty ways, was threatening to blow the lid off their massive, insidious plot, the Cabal had to send in one of their best agents.

The insinuation begins to develop into calumny when you present the practices that should lead your followers to the unmasking of Lash:

She attends the vile Emmett Tyrrell. Never mind that you proudly attend to a vast array of conservative voices, if Lash listens to any, her perfidy is revealed! Of course yours are ventures into the Dark Side, necessary to the advancement of the cause, and every now and again you find a brave conservative, like Jennifer Rubin, who get's it, and so provides hope that not everyone on the Right is a lost cause.

Lash promotes Tyrrell by posting a link to his article. I'm not sure though if this is a sure sign to you that she not only buys into everything the man has ever written, admires it and wants to spread the truth to all, or if she's merely attempting to infect your followers. I guess it could be both.

However the apparent proof that she not only a professional internet troll but a warrior of the Alt-Right (and, in fact, a very terrible person) is that she "is coming down on the side of white supremacists, nazis, racists and Klansmen rather than those protesting against such ideologies"

How did I do?
blatham
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 01:02 pm
@Setanta,
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Antifa is an acronym for an anti-fascist group.

Apparently anti-fascism is the political and moral equivalent of fascism. But that does match a pattern. Those protesting racism are as guilty as racists of racism. Also, I guess, the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto uprising were no less to blame for violence than were the nazis.
revelette1
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 01:14 pm
@Lash,
I am not sure how that contradicts Berkley saying those wanting Ann Coulter to speak didn't officially schedule the event in time. The title of your link says Ann Coulter cancelled the event after losing conservative support. I guess we will see when the lawsuits makes their way through the courts.
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revelette1
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 01:24 pm
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Mother Of Charlottesville Victim Heather Heyer: 'I’m Proud Of What She Did'

RUCKERSVILLE, Va. ― Susan Bro sat in her darkened home on Sunday, tearing up as she smiled.

She was thinking fondly of her daughter, 32-year-old Heather Heyer, who was killed in Charlottesville, Virginia the day before after a man drove his car into protesters of the “Unite the Right” rally, a gathering of white supremacist groups.

Heather, a paralegal who lived in Charlottesville, was determined to stand up to injustice, her mother told HuffPost. There was no question that she would protest throngs of neo-Nazis and other extremists that had descended on her town.

“She always had a very strong sense of right and wrong, she always, even as a child, was very caught up in what she believed to be fair,” Bro said. “Somehow I almost feel that this is what she was born to be, is a focal point for change. I’m proud that what she was doing was peaceful, she wasn’t there fighting with people.”

She recalled that her daughter was charitable and reached out to the underprivileged. Bro said Heather used invite friends who were “having a hard time” to stay with them, sometimes for months. Anyone who needed help received it from Heather, Bro said.

Others who knew Heyer expressed similar sentiments. A neighbor in Charlottesville told HuffPost that, “she lived her life like her path ― and it was for justice.” A GoFundMe page set up Heyer’s name by a family friend said that Heyer was killed “while protesting against hate.”

20-year-old James Field Jr. was arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder over the crash. Field was in Charlottesville attending the “Unite the Right” rally and was photographed with a shield bearing a white supremacist emblem hours before the attack.

“I think he’s still very young, and I’m sorry he believed that hate could fix problems. Hate only brings more hate,” Bro said. “Heather was not about hate, Heather was about stopping hatred. Heather was about bringing an end to injustice.

She began to cry as she added, “I don’t want her death to be a focus for more hatred, I want her death to be a rallying cry for justice and equality and fairness and compassion. I’m very sorry that [Fields] chose that path because he has now ruined his life as well as robbed a great many of us of someone we love very much.”

“No mother wants to lose a child, but I’m proud of her,” she said. “I’m proud of what she did.”


HuffPost
blatham
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 01:26 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
How did I do?

Marvelous work. You found an opportunity to use that sparkly new term, "unmasking".

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(True to form, you frame this sort of political sabotage as exclusively within the GOP bag of dirty tricks)
No such claim made. I gave two examples of recent instances of such a strategy being put into place. One can go a bit further back to Nixon operative Segretti and rat-*******. Such duplicitous operations are not new, of course, but we ought to be well aware that they are in the modern GOP toolkit and are being used. If you have knowledge of or evidence of other such instances involving Dems, you are free to note them with corroborating details.

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she not only a professional internet troll but a warrior of the Alt-Right (and, in fact, a very terrible person)
I did not say Lash was/is a professional troll. We know that such people, funded and organized, exist but I very much doubt Lash is being funded by anyone.

But I do expect she is linked with others doing similar work. "Terrible person"? No. Just a liar with political ideas/aims I find morally repugnant. I might have this wrong but Occam's razor suggests I don't.
blatham
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 01:28 pm
@revelette1,
Her last facebook post before she was killed read, "If you aren't concerned, you aren't paying attention"
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blatham
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 01:40 pm
They. Can't. Stop. Lying.
WH spokesman Tom Bossert claims that Trump did not name/identify white supremacists and nazis because he did not want to dignify them by naming them
Right. That's surely it.
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Jake Tapper‏Verified account @jaketapper 26m26 minutes ago
Jake Tapper Retweeted The Hill
He held an entire event in Long Island about MS-13.


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hightor
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 01:42 pm
@blatham,
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If you have knowledge of or evidence of other such instances involving Dems, you are free to note them with corroborating details.

Dick Tuck of course!

When people became aware of the direct CREEP involvement in the Watergate break-in, the GOP rolled out their ever popular "what about?" strategy, gleefully pointing to the dastardly Mr. Tuck.
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blatham
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 01:47 pm
This is not false.

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Elizabeth Picciuto‏Verified account
@epicciuto
Trump was more willing to call his country's intelligence community Nazis than he was to call actual Nazis Nazis.
4:10 AM - 13 Aug 2017
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blatham
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 01:58 pm
@hightor,
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Dick Tuck
I must have bumped into commentary on this fellow before but have zero recollection of it. Thanks for the history lesson!
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Olivier5
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 02:31 pm
@layman,
This is a 15 years old hit job, not the truth.
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Real Music
 
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Sun 13 Aug, 2017 02:52 pm
I am definitely not a fan of Glenn Beck for all sorts of reasons. The list of problems I have with Glenn Beck is super long. As far as I know, I disagree with all of Glenn Beck's views and opinions. The following video of Glenn Beck denouncing Steve Bannon because of Steve Bannon's Alt-right positions is probably the first time I ever agreed with Glenn Beck. I suspect that this very specific rare occasion of me agreeing with Glenn Beck will probably never happen again. For those who are not aware of who is Steve Bannon, he is a chief strategist and a senior advisor to Trump. Donald Trump hired Steve Bannon to be his chief strategist and a senior advisor. Steve Bannon is still part of Donald Trump's White House. What does this tell us about Trump?

Nov 15, 2016
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