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@Finn dAbuzz,

I'm not the one finding excuses for murderers. You are.

@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

Quote Olivier5:

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The police won't murder people by ramming cars into them?... That's such a shame!

Can't help but notice as soon as you brought up the Nazi/Klan group ramming the counter-protestors with a car, Finn and Layman swiftly stopped posting about the action in Charlottesville.

Can't imagine why.

Oh look, another member of the pompous clown camp.

Did you really think Ollie's absurd insult dropped me or anyone else in our tracks and we were...what? Too ashamed to post further? Rolling Eyes

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@wmwcjr,

wmwcjr wrote:

That was not true. Whenever I hear a conservative today pay tribute to MLK, I feel like throwing up! They hated the guy when he was alive!

While I'm sure that most conservatives back then did, that doesn't mean all conservatives back then did.

Regardless, it is very possible for a conservative today to be anti-racism and thus respect MLK for his anti-racist stance. The reason most Americans respect MLK today is because of his anti-racist stance, not because of his nutty socialism.

If the left succeeds in their nonsense about conservatives not being allowed to respect MLK for his anti-racism stance merely because they disagree with his nutty socialism, the result will be that this nation will no longer consider MLK as a figure worthy of respect.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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Did you really think Ollie's absurd insult dropped me or anyone else in our tracks and we were...what? Too ashamed to post further? Rolling Eyes

Yeah, Finn, he really thinks that.

The chump.

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@layman,

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Strange. I actually sat through that entire 5 minute montage of campaign signs, and there was no "racism" in it.

Obama was accused of being a muslim, a commie, a dictator, etc., sure but where's the racism?

Let me guess, eh? Obama is black, so if you don't agree with him, you are ipso facto a "racist," that it?

That *special* brand of cheese-eater "logic" don't fly, sorry.

I just got back from the store. I had to buy some cheese for my grill cheese sandwich. I love eating cheese. It's so yummy. Especially grill cheese sandwich. You might want to try it sometime.

Now back to the subject at hand. Wow! There is no possible way you can be that blind to obvious racism. I would suggest you to watch the video again, but I seriously doubt that your eyes will actually open up and see what you are viewing. Either you are pretending or you are serious. If you are pretending, I don't want to waste my time. If you are serious, you just may turn out to be racist. This is only an observation.

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@layman,

layman wrote:

"Well, he shoulda armed hisself if he's gunna decorate his saloon with my friend." Fair point, eh?

Good movie. The .30-30 scene is still jarring to me though. Why not sell them power cells for their plasma rifles?

I do like the focus on the Spencer rifle and the Schofield handgun though. Much more likely guns than the pair of guns that claim to have won the west.

The kid's naming himself after the Schofield was kind of goofy, but I think it was supposed to have been a goofy thing for him to do within the plot of the movie, so I guess it's OK.

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@Real Music,

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There is no possible way you can be that blind to obvious racism.

Tellya what: Since I'm too blind to see the racism, why don't you enlighten me and point it out, eh?

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

I'm not the one finding excuses for murderers. You are.

Another juvenile retort?

You argue like a 7 year old.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

I can read.

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@layman,

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Tellya what: Since I'm too blind to see the racism, why don't you enlighten me and point it out, eh?

You can't be for real. You are clearly just playing dumb. Now you are just trying to waste my time.

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@Real Music,

Can't do it, eh? That's what I thought.

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@layman,

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Can't do it, eh? That's what I thought

I am not reposting this video for your eyes. You are clearly playing dump. You are clearly just trying to waste my time. I am reposting this video for other A2K members to view just in case they didn't see it the first time I posted it. This way other A2K members can see for themselves how ridiculous you sound when you say you saw no racism contained in this video montage.

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@layman,

Quote South Carolina's Declaration of Secession:

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Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation.

Quote layman:

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This is about a breach of contract and the willful denial of their constitutional rights, not slavery, per se.

When one side breaches a contract, the other is relieved from any obligation to perform their end of the bargain. South Carolina is making the case for it's secession here, not for slavery.

Show me where, in the Constitution, it says if one or more states decide on their own that other states aren't living up to their Constitutional obligations, they can secede. Don't talk to me about contract law, the Constitution takes precedence over contract law, as it takes precedence over all laws, a principle South Carolina and all Confederate states signed onto when they ratified the Constitution.

South Carolina: "Hey, I'm declaring myself seceded. The Constitution forbids it, but that's okay, I have contract law on my side, so it's okay. Toodle-oo, fellas."

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@Blickers,

The constitution is, and was, a contract, a compact, if you will, among sovereign states.

If I agreed to buy your car for $5,000, but you later refused to give me the title or the keys to it, you're just the kind who would insist that I had agreed to give you $5,000 and must do it, eh?

But of course you're still completely missing the point, as is to be expected.

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@layman,

PS: And so you join the army internet Confederates who try to say "The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about the states' rights to have slavery." And expect people to find you ridiculous.

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

PS: And so you join the army internet Confederates who try to say "The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about the states' rights to have slavery." And expect people to find you ridiculous.

Look, fool, the country, as a whole (including the Southern states), didn't abolish slavery until AFTER the civil war. They had to AMEND the constitution to do it. Until that time, citizens had a (bargained for and agreed upon) constitutional right to own slaves, whether you like that, or not.

No Southern State had to "fight" for the right to own slaves. They already had that right. The problem was that their rights were being trampled on by the northern states.

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@layman,

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No Southern State had to "fight" for the right to own slaves. They already had that right. The problem was that their rights were being trampled on by the northern states.

At the end of the civil war, slavery was legal under BOTH the confederate flag AND the stars and stripes. Several slave-holding States actually took up Lincoln on his offer, made in the Emancipation Proclamation, to cease fighting the Union, and, likewise, he made good on his promise to allow them to continue as slave states.

Things changed after that for all states, not just for the confederacy. The confederate flag was no longer "valid" after 1865, but the constitutional right to own slaves was STILL the law of the land, under the American flag.

So why is one a symbol of slavery (and nothing else) and the other not?

That question is not for you, Blicky, because no one expects you to some up with any kind of rational argument about anything. You just blurt out your emotions, assert them as obvious truths which require no rational explanation or justification, and go on your smug, merry way, satisfied that your mere assertion has proven you right.

However, some other cheese-eater may want to take a stab at answering it, eh?

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@layman,

Ya know, I got a whole slew of grandkids, great-grandkids, and great-greats. I've never even seen a lot of them (they number well into the tens of thousands), but all of them that I know used to love wrestling and fighting with me when they were 3, 4, 5, and 6 years old

Often they would tell me they were gunna kick my sorry ass, and they meant it. Of course, they were no threat to me, and I didn't take them seriously, but they did.

They didn't know that we were just playin.

Just sayin.

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@layman,

layman wrote:

layman wrote:
I think it might be the commie who lost a bet to John--Bobby-boy--and had to abandon his screenname as a result.

I see that Lash knows. It's that lame-ass Bobby, sho nuff.

Typically, he "responded" to my post criticizing his "logic," by demonstrating that he doesn't even begin to understand the concept of an informal logical fallacy.

Still playin the fool, eh, Bobby?

If this Grogan character is Bobsal that would explain all of Grogan's namecalling and falsely accusing other people of namecalling.

It would also explain the some of the votedowns increasing dramatically from -4 to -9 or so. For some reason the posts that Bobsal didn't like always ended up with about 5 more downvotes compared to the downvotes on other posts.

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@Olivier5,

You and others are taking great liberties making assumptions about all of those people, and ripping Constitutional rights from every one of them, and further--approving illegal assault against them.

The violence will escalate exponentially because of how they're being treated. There are legal guidelines to protect citizens during legally arranged protests. There are legal responses to illegal behavior that may occur. We are botching free speech. We're slowly but surely giving away the things that made this country a great place to live. I watched burning flags, and I didn't like it worth a ****, but I was glad I lived in a place where someone had the freedom to express himself that way.

No one has the right to physically hurt someone else because of their legal expression. This is going to get a lot worse because of people who think they're above the law.

The Trump era fascism -surprise!- is coming directly from the hilarious named anti-fascists.

We'll end up outlawing protest.
And unpopular views.
It's coming.
People will report their neighbors.

Follow the law.

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