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@Olivier5,

It's good to know who these people are. It's only fair to give others a heads up.

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Here she is again, bragging about how her groups violence, which included 7 stabbings, "shut down" a group of protesters, and made them run.

She expresssly advocates initiating violence, calling it "self-defense," naturally.

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Fascists pretending to be anti fascists.

The Violent Alt Left

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/534192/

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@Lash,

A little sample, eh, Darlin?:

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In the days leading up to the planned parade, a group called the Direct Action Alliance declared, “Fascists plan to march through the streets,” and warned, “Nazis will not march through Portland unopposed.”...it also denounced marchers with “Trump flags” and “red maga hats."

A second group, Oregon Students Empowered, created a Facebook page called “Shut down fascism! No nazis in Portland!” Next, the parade’s organizers received an anonymous email warning that if “Trump supporters” and others who promote “hateful rhetoric” marched, “we will have two hundred or more people rush into the parade … and drag and push those people out.”

When Portland police said they lacked the resources to provide adequate security, the organizers canceled the parade. It was a sign of things to come.

The palpable hypocrisy is stunning, even for cheese-eaters.

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@layman,

Sorry, but you done missed the point. The Southerners themselves in 1860 said the South's attempted secession was about racism and slavery.

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@Olivier5,

Quote Olivier5:

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The police won't murder people by ramming cars into them?... That's such a shame!

Can't help but notice as soon as you brought up the Nazi/Klan group ramming the counter-protestors with a car, Finn and Layman swiftly stopped posting about the action in Charlottesville.

Can't imagine why.

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

Sorry, but you done missed the point. The Southerners themselves in 1860 said the South's attempted secession was about racism and slavery.

Missed the point? Heh, there is no point coming from you. Your post is a total non sequitur with regard to the issue raised. Typical of you, of course.

You completely miss the point, and then claim others do, because they don't share your irrational way of thinking.

Nice try, cheese-eater.

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

Sorry, but you done missed the point. The Southerners themselves in 1860 said the South's attempted secession was about racism and slavery.

And, for that matter, you can't even comprehend the point of your own post.

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Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation.

This is about a breach of contract and the willful denial of their constitutional rights, not slavery, per se.

When one side breaches a contract, the other is relieved from any obligation to perform their end of the bargain. South Carolina is making the case for it's secession here, not for slavery. As with sanctuary cities today, the northern states were deliberately subverting the constitution and federal laws passed by the national congress. What good it is to participate in a national law-making effort, or a governing constitution, if it will all just be ignored?

Slavery was unjustified, but that aint even the point here.

By the way, Lincoln himself said he would gladly preserve slavery if it would prevent the dissolution of the union.

And, for that matter, the Emancipation Proclamation did NOT "free the slaves." On the contrary, it expressly guaranteed that slavery would be allowed in every state that quit resisting.

Old Glory is therefore ONLY a symbol of slavery, eh?

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TEA PARTY RACISM: What The Media Won't Show You About Teabagger Racism

Published on Feb 9, 2010

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@Lash,

These people see slavery with nostalgia. The Klan murdered dozens of people back in the days. **** their hate speech. The mayor should never have authorised this particular demonstration. If the Nazis want to erect a statue of Lee, a shrine to Hitler or a replica of Musolini's genitals in their own backyard, no one is stopping them.

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@Real Music,

Strange. I actually sat through that entire 5 minute montage of campaign signs, and there was no "racism" in it.

Obama was accused of being a muslim, a commie, a dictator, etc., sure but where's the racism?

Let me guess, eh? Obama is black, so if you don't agree with him, you are ipso facto a "racist," that it?

That *special* brand of cheese-eater "logic" don't fly, sorry.

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

North Korea and it's savvy allies, Russia and China, are playing Trump beautifully.

I think I heard on the news something about an announcement from China to the effect that if North Korea is the one to start the war, China won't help them this time.

Our nukes should make short work of the North Koreans once they nuke Los Angeles.

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@snood,

snood wrote:

Did you see, or hear of, or know someone who heard of someone holding a sign that said "White lives don't matter"?

I know of a guy named snood who posts bitter rants whenever a white police officer survives a murder attempt by a black man.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Our nukes should make short work of the North Koreans once they nuke Los Angeles.

Yeah, we got thousands of old ICBM's and **** that have just been sitting around gathering dust for decades, eh? They need to be upgraded anyway, so raining a few thousand on NK wouldn't even be any real loss. It would actually be a gain by clearing out warehouse space in launching silos without having to deal with otherwise disposing of the nuclear waste, which is always a somewhat risky adventure, ya know?

Well, it would be a big-ass loss for THEM, sure, but that aint what I'm talking about.

NK is less than 50,000 square miles, so a mere 5,000 nukes would land one every 10 square miles---more than sufficient to never have to see another north korean again, eh?

We would still have plenty left over for China, if they tried to get contrary, so....

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

You have chosen your camp. That's no insult, it's a fact.

And you've, apparently, chosen yours: neither the Nazis nor the Antifa: utterly pompous clowns

Neither Lash nor I have, in anyway, excused the right-wing thugs who, in Charlottesville, were neither protesting nor demonstrating, but engaging in a melee motivated by hatred and a thirst for violence. To accuse us of having joined their camp has nothing to do with fact, and everything to do with supercilious grandstanding.

What we have done is to condemn all acts of violence in response to political speech and we've most definitely not chosen only one side to castigate or any side to support.

Your response is, as predicted: "If you're not with us, not only are you against us, you are Nazi sympathizers!"

I understand though. You're enthralled by a revolutionary fantasy and are living vicariously through the idealistic thugs who recognize that Trump and his minions must be stopped by any means necessary. In order for you to rationalize, defend and support Antifa brown shirts, you have to cast anyone who doesn't join with you as members of the evil enemy.

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In Hiroshima, people were literally set on fire when the nuke hit. A few of them were able to make it to the river and jump in.

But that didn't help matters none. The river was on fire too, ya know?

Fire and fury (or however Trump put it) like the world has never seen before, sho nuff. Bring it on, Fat Boy.

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

Don 't make me laugh. The southerners back in 1860 thought it was about racism and slavery.

That was the reason why the south fought the war. But the fact remains, most southerners today view the flag as symbol of pride in southern culture, and of resistance against leftists who sneer and demean southern culture.

The fact that leftists respond to the flag by sneering and demeaning southern culture even more only reinforces the flag's symbolism as resistance to anti-south bigotry.

It is actually quite reasonable for southerners to use confederate flags as a symbol of southern pride. Local regions around the world often use the flag of a past era when that region was politically independent as a modern symbol of regional pride. It's the same reason why Texans fly the flag of the Republic of Texas.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Like Cammie, Blicky, Bobby, and most every other cheese-eater here, aint nobody never gunna accuse Ollie of bein Albert Einstein in disguise, eh?

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

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he is guaranteeing that an extreme element, unbidden or bidden by the group he is in conflict with, will eventually turn up to do what the police will not.

The police won't murder people by ramming cars into them?... That's such a shame!

Are you really so incapable of even mildly complex thought?

To say that by failing to crack down on one group of violent thugs is to invite another group to attempt to do so is not to suggest that they should or that any attempt they make is welcome or justified. Ignoring and rationalizing violence is your game, not mine.

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@oralloy,

Yeah, intense anti-southern bigotry is not only "acceptable" to the ever-tolerant left wing, it is a requirement for joining their exclusive little club, eh?

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