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Lawyers for President Donald Trump are fighting an effort to force him to testify in a lawsuit brought by protesters at a campaign rally in Kentucky last year who say they were roughed up following Trump's call to "get 'em out of here."

In a filing Monday in federal court in Louisville, Trump's attorneys argue that a suit brought by the protesters can be resolved without exploring the motivations for, or intentions behind, Trump's exhortation to the crowd at the March 2016 event.

"Compulsory deposition of the sitting President of the United States must be treated as a measure of last resort. It cannot be justified unless all other possible grounds of resolving the case have been exhausted, and the deposition is absolutely necessary," the new motion from the Trump legal team argues.

georgeob1 wrote:

glitterbag wrote:

Ohhh boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo comrade pissy pants.

Just returned from a pleasant weekend in a redwood retreat near the Russian River and found this;
Brilliant retort: incisive, compact, factual argument; clearly stated. Persuasive too.

Laymen doesn't deserve a more intelligent response George.

Is she trying any harder than orally who constantly claims he is "a billion" times smarter than most of us?

You can't understand that by yourself, Finn? Did you misplace your couple of neurons or what?

Let me explain it to you: Lieman deleted theses parts because they said that the infamous dossier was requested and initially paid for by a republican, then by a dem, then finished pro bono and sent to legitimate US agencies. You see, Lieman was eager to blame it all on democrats. That's why he doctered the wiki quote.

Got it now?

And yet Obama made sure that NATO was kept strong and secure, and Trump is talking about it being obsolete. When Russia took over Eastern Europe after WWII, NATO was formed to prevent Russia from going into Western Europe to prevent it being enslaved like Eastern Europe. It worked. Thus prevented from expanding, the Russian economy collapsed in 1991, whereupon the captive Eastern Europeans were able to pull away from Russia and join NATO to prevent Russia from taking them back. That worked. With Russia unable to expand and suck neighboring countries dry, it is now in a deep economic depression. The only move left is for the Russian people to realize that authoritarianism doesn't work and replace the likes of Putin with a modern, democratic leader who take advantage of Russia's highly educated population and mineral resources to enrich his people.

Instead, Trump is throwing Putin a lifeline and talking about disbanding NATO so Russia can move right back into it's old Eastern European nations and sponge off their wealth once again. Trump is buddy buddy with Putin and starts fights with our European NATO allies.

No question, Trump is the greatest American president Russia ever had.

Trump defenders for the last months: There was absolutely no collusion. This is a witch hunt. Neither Trump nor the Trump campaign colluded. All of this is fake news.

Trump defenders last week: Collusion is not illegal.

Trump defenders now: Collusion is perfectly reasonable. Anybody would have colluded. There is absolutely nothing wrong with collusion.

The Trump campaign did the only logical thing in colluding with the Russians.

I got news for you Lieboy: you did doctor this quote. You'd have to have some sort of moral sense in order to realize that, though. I bet you think you "edited" or "summarized" it but in actual fact you tried to mislead us.

Nice try, bouffeur de merde.

layman wrote:

I've already talked at some length about what cheese-eaters intended by the word "collusion," i.e. criminal, corrupt, treasonous subversion. Such "collusion" by Trump or his campaign has never been shown.

That's exactly what ya'll were saying about the Trump campaign meeting with Russians in an effort to undermine Hillary's campaign.

Never happened, all fake news, all made up by liberals sore about losing the elections, all a witch hunt.

Until Trump jr. personally posted evidence for exactly that.

And of course, it's not true: Section 30121 of Title 52 makes it a criminal offense for any foreigner to contribute money or any “other thing of value” in relationship with an American election, and it also makes it a criminal offense for anyone to solicit a foreigner to do so.

Trump jr. personally pointed out that all he wanted to receive from (what he thought to be) a Russian state agent was opposition research. Opposition research is valuable - campaigns easily spend tens of thousands of dollars on regular opposition research.

Ultimately, there's no reason to believe anyone in the Trump campaign or administration. Nobody in this circle has any regard for the truth. Lies are a matter of course. Every new revelation is being defended by new lies, right up to the point where those are shown to be lies.

So if the sitting/squating President is Trump it's unreasonable to compel him to be deposed.....but if it's Bill Clinton it's totally moral to pursue him like a pack of rabid dogs.

But of course, EVERYONE must edit out those pesky statements that don't fit their preconceived cherished pig ignorant favorite themes.

Recently in Poland, Trump clearly affirmed America's commitment to NATO and Article 5, and specifically criticized Russia for it's incursion into the Ukraine and their meddling in Syria. Now I realize that he made his Pro-NATO, Pro-Europe and Pro-Western statements within a speech that, as every left-winger knows, was actually an expression of nationalistic aggression based on the premise of white supremacy, but if we're to believe he was serious when he said NATO was obsolete, I don't know why we should doubt his latest stand on the subject.

As for Obama keeping NATO secure and strong, how did scuttling the ballistic missile system program for Poland and the Czech Republic help achieve that end? Is there any doubt, what-so-ever, that the villain Vladimir Putin was absolutely delighted by this move? That our European allies only learned of the plan at the last minute,

Slawomir Nowak, a senior adviser to Polish Prime Minister Tusk, responded positively to the proposed short- and medium-range missile systems replacing the long-range systems: "If this system becomes reality in the shape Washington is now suggesting, it would actually be better for us than the original missile shield programme," he stated. "We were never really threatened by a long-range missile attack from Iran," he told TVP Info.

As for Trump's insistence that NATO members meet the defense goal spending they agreed to I realize left-wingers all recognize this as Trump's way of weakening NATO, but since he has never stated, tweeted or even hinted that if all NATO nations meet their obligations, the US will reduce it's spending to the same agreed upon level (2% of GDP and currently the US spends in excess of 3%), won't all that additional spending on defense make NATO stronger?

Like, whooda thunk, I ax ya?

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Face tattoo inked in jail proves a tricky sell for employers

Mark Cropp wants to get off the dole, get a job and put food on the table for his family.

But there's one small problem - a giant tattoo saying "DEVAST8" that covers half of his face is proving off-putting for prospective employers.

He was locked up in 2015, aged 17, for aggravated robbery, after he and a friend pulled a knife on a tourist in Nelson.

He says he was kicked out of school aged 11.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11889732

It's hard enough to get a job with a record like that to begin with. This guy doesn't want a job. If he did, he wouldn't have a tat that basically says "I'm a criminal loser" plastered across his face, eh?

Unemployed dad with face tattoo rejects 45 job offers since going viral with desperate work plea

A teen dad with “DEVAST8” tattooed across half his face has turned down 45 job offers as he is “waiting for the right one to come along” – after his desperate work plea went viral.

Within hours he revealed he had been deluged with job opportunities and admitted he “stopped counting” when the number of offers reached 45.

"You know, this tattoo means something to me and my brother did it for me so it is hard to make the decision to get rid of it."

Cropp got the tattoo a few months ago while drunk on home brewed alcohol with his brother in a New Zealand prison last year.

He was locked up for pulling a knife on a tourist after trying to sell him fake cannabis.

A US court has ordered that President Donald Trump release records of visitors to his Mar-a-Lago resort in southern Florida.
Mr Trump has been to the property seven times this year, including when he hosted foreign leaders. But it is unclear who else he had as guests.
The move is part of a legal challenge brought by a non-profit watchdog group.
Meanwhile, the outgoing head of the government ethics agency says the US has been made a virtual laughing stock.
Walter Shaub told the New York Times that the Trump administration has ignored long-established guidelines, and that the flouting of ethics rules at home makes it hard for the US to tackle corruption overseas.
The White House has dismissed the criticism, saying that Mr Shaub was promoting himself and had failed to do his job properly.
Among the visitors that Mr Trump has hosted at his resort - which he calls the "Winter White House" - are Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Chinese President Xi Jinping.
The legal case for details of the visitors was launched by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (Crew), the National Security Archive (NSA) and the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University.

Someone tell that boy it's August.

That would be because Trump has spent the last year saying NATO was obsolete and that we have to change our relationship with Russia to one based on "mutual shared interests"-not freedom, not security, but if Russia does something, they have to make it so it's good for us. And notice at that speech you laud, Trump emphasized that the United States has in the past stood up for Poland, but now Europe must do more. Not quite as comforting for the Poles as you make it out to be-next week if Putin rolls the tanks into Warsaw, nothing in that speech says that Trump won't say, "Hell, we've already stuck up for Poland plenty, now it's Europe's turn".

Instead of the long range missile aid largely aimed at defending against Iran, he came up with the Aegis system which helps to defend Poland against an attack from Russia. That's why the Polish government itself said:

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Slawomir Nowak, a senior adviser to Polish Prime Minister Tusk, responded positively to the proposed short- and medium-range missile systems replacing the long-range systems: "If this system becomes reality in the shape Washington is now suggesting, it would actually be better for us than the original missile shield programme," he stated. "We were never really threatened by a long-range missile attack from Iran," he told TVP Info.

NATO works best when projecting a united front. If Trump has a problem with Europe's contributions to NATO, he shouldn't be seen publicly criticizing our NATO partners while cozying up to Putin the way he does. Talk to Europe behind the scenes-real presidents know how to get a message across without embarrassing our allies. Especially when Trump is acting like Russia is America's ally.