@snood,
snood wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
maporsche wrote:
Not bullshit. The republicans are actually, in fact, holding closed door meetings with just 13 white republican men.
What special significance do you believe there is in them being "white men?"
It's all a matter of perspective, I think. It probably looks more suspect to those of us that aren't white men. I'm sure that if 13 Black Democratic Congressmen (and I know this is a tall hypothetical) were holding closed door meetings about how to manage one-sixth of our country's GDP, you would observe the whole thing and not wonder once about the make up of the group. Wouldn't you?
I'm pretty sure I would wonder how these 13
Black Democrats usurped the leadership of their Party, or I might wonder what they thought they were trying to accomplish since (as you've alluded to) the leadership of the Democrats is not made up of 13 African-Americans (Not even one, if the website I've linked is correct)
In the House it's
2 White women
3 White men
In the Senate its
4 White men
4 White women
For the GOP it's
House
8 White men
1 White woman
Senate
7 White men
http://conginst.org/senate-republican-leadership-positions/
I certainly can understand why maporche (who made the original comments and to whom I posed the question) and you might find it disconcerting that only Republicans are involved in the crafting of this legislation, because that's just how I felt about only Democrats crafting the ACA.
What I still don't get is why it's anymore disconcerting that those Republicans are white men. The implication is that white Republican men are either less trustworthy or more apt to screw constituents of the Democrats more than black or female Republicans would. I, essentially, asked maporche why he thought this to be so. He hasn't responded, but you have, and your answers seems to be that regardless of their shared ideology you are more suspicious of white Republicans than you would be of their black colleagues.
The Democrat Party leadership could switch over to all black me (or all black women for that matter) tomorrow and it would make no difference to me. I would be surprised considering the hypocrisy of the Dem leadership but they would still be all Democrats and regardless of their skin color or gender I wouldn't trust them to do what is best for the nation and me and my family.
This is what I meant about your always seeming to spy bogeymen in the shadows.
You are very clearly implying that I would be more suspect of 13 black Democrat men than I would be of 13 Democrat white men or women. You shouldn't project your personal prejudices upon others. If you are more suspect of white Republican men than Non-white or female Republicans, that's fine. Your suspicions are your own and I neither know nor care how they've been developed, but black Republicans, as a group, don't have a significantly different set of values and objectives than their white colleagues. If you or anyone else feels like white Republican men are trying to screw you, it won't be any different if they were immediately replaced by black Republicans. I fully believe the same is true with Democrats.