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layman
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Jul, 2017 09:52 pm
These cheese-eaters say the darndest things, eh?

Quote:
Maine lawmaker threatens to make Trump 'half term president'

A Maine state lawmaker made his opinion of President Trump crystal clear in a social media post Tuesday, calling him a "joke," a "rapist" and a "pussy" before wrapping up his screed with what could be interpreted as a death threat.

In a Facebook exchange, State Rep. Scott Hamann posted a rambling diatribe using profanity and explicit language to refer to Trump and his supporters.

"Trump is a half term president, at most, especially if I ever get within 10 feet of that pussy," Hamann wrote on Facebook.

He also called 63 million Trump voters “dumb fucks.”

A screenshot of the post, in which Hamann writes that Trump was “installed by the Russians” and seethes against the president, his supporters and Republicans more generally, was widely circulated on social media beginning Tuesday evening.

In the Facebook post Hamann also draws a negative comparison between Trump and President Barack Obama — including a reference to the “Trump crime family” — blames Republicans for stymying the former president and taunts supporters of the current one.

“You’re a ******* pussy. And you people are destroying America,” Hamann wrote. “100% of intelligent Americans agree that Trump is a complete loser.”

The screenshots of Hamann’s statements were first circulated on Facebook by conservative radio host Keith Hanson, who said he received them from a New Hampshire state representative.

On Tuesday night, Hanson, who hosts shows on FOX News affiliate radio stations WNTK in New Hampshire and WUVR in Vermont reached out to Hamann and Good Shepherd Food Bank over Facebook regarding the posts.

Hamann responded by saying he would pursue legal action against the radio host if the statements hurt his career, according to screenshots of their conversation provided by Hanson.

“And if anything negative comes from your attack on my employment, my attorney will be in touch,” Hamann wrote. “Cease and desist.”


"... my attorney will be in touch,” Hamann wrote. “Cease and desist.” The po boy done been VICTIMIZED, sho nuff, eh?
layman
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Jul, 2017 10:15 pm


Un-American, eh? We need Tail-gunner Joe back for this ****, I figure.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Wed 12 Jul, 2017 10:25 pm
@layman,
Now I always reject the notion that the comments of one Republican asshole can be argued to be representative of all, or most Republicans so I'm not about to suggest this Democrat asshole is typical of all, or most Democrats, however it is alarming that so many Democrats seem to feel that this kind of crap is not only not a big deal but that it's somehow justified.

Hamann's comments are something I would expect from an ignorant, belligerent drunk at a Biker bar and not a State Representative, however he is from Maine and they seem to like their public servants to be authentic

I can tell you who the dumbest of fucks are, they're the citizens of Maine who elected this loud mouthed lout, and those who are "liking" his inane rant on Facebook.

If there is any backlash on this guy from the citizens of Maine (which I hope will be the case) he should move to Minnesota where he would not only be able to preserve his political career, but possibly greatly advance it. After all, a majority of voters there elected Jesse Ventura to be their Governor, and Al Franken as one of their Senators; demonstrating they value a high asshole quotient well beyond competence or skill.

I sincerely hope Hamann sues Hanson. I will happily contribute to any fund intended to cover his legal expense.
Olivier5
 
  6  
Wed 12 Jul, 2017 10:58 pm
@layman,
Oh poor you trumpautist snowflakes... You're buthurt because some dude was not politically correct, huh?
layman
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Jul, 2017 11:00 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

I sincerely hope Hamann sues Hanson. I will happily contribute to any fund intended to cover his legal expense.


Yeah. By "his" I assume you are referring to Hanson, not Hamann. What's most amazing is that such fools actually think that if they threatened the life of a president, they have a right of legal redress against anyone who broadcasts that fact. He probably thinks that every criminal has a right to collect "damages" from every honest witness who testified against him at his trial, too.

I mean, like, how fuckin wack can ya get, I ax ya?
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -4  
Wed 12 Jul, 2017 11:11 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

maporsche wrote:


Not bullshit. The republicans are actually, in fact, holding closed door meetings with just 13 white republican men.




What special significance do you believe there is in them being "white men?"


It's all a matter of perspective, I think. It probably looks more suspect to those of us that aren't white men. I'm sure that if 13 Black Democratic Congressmen (and I know this is a tall hypothetical) were holding closed door meetings about how to manage one-sixth of our country's GDP, you would observe the whole thing and not wonder once about the make up of the group. Wouldn't you?


I'm pretty sure I would wonder how these 13 Black Democrats usurped the leadership of their Party, or I might wonder what they thought they were trying to accomplish since (as you've alluded to) the leadership of the Democrats is not made up of 13 African-Americans (Not even one, if the website I've linked is correct)

In the House it's
2 White women
3 White men

In the Senate its
4 White men
4 White women

For the GOP it's

House
8 White men
1 White woman

Senate
7 White men

http://conginst.org/senate-republican-leadership-positions/

I certainly can understand why maporche (who made the original comments and to whom I posed the question) and you might find it disconcerting that only Republicans are involved in the crafting of this legislation, because that's just how I felt about only Democrats crafting the ACA.

What I still don't get is why it's anymore disconcerting that those Republicans are white men. The implication is that white Republican men are either less trustworthy or more apt to screw constituents of the Democrats more than black or female Republicans would. I, essentially, asked maporche why he thought this to be so. He hasn't responded, but you have, and your answers seems to be that regardless of their shared ideology you are more suspicious of white Republicans than you would be of their black colleagues.

The Democrat Party leadership could switch over to all black me (or all black women for that matter) tomorrow and it would make no difference to me. I would be surprised considering the hypocrisy of the Dem leadership but they would still be all Democrats and regardless of their skin color or gender I wouldn't trust them to do what is best for the nation and me and my family.

This is what I meant about your always seeming to spy bogeymen in the shadows.

You are very clearly implying that I would be more suspect of 13 black Democrat men than I would be of 13 Democrat white men or women. You shouldn't project your personal prejudices upon others. If you are more suspect of white Republican men than Non-white or female Republicans, that's fine. Your suspicions are your own and I neither know nor care how they've been developed, but black Republicans, as a group, don't have a significantly different set of values and objectives than their white colleagues. If you or anyone else feels like white Republican men are trying to screw you, it won't be any different if they were immediately replaced by black Republicans. I fully believe the same is true with Democrats.
layman
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Jul, 2017 11:16 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Me, I think that Maxine Waters should be the sole leadership voice of the Democrats from here on out. That will bring in a lot votes, sho nuff!

For Republicans.

I wonder what Snooty would have to say about a congressional "white caucus," eh?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Jul, 2017 11:22 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Oh poor you trumpautist snowflakes... You're buthurt because some dude was not politically correct, huh?


My butt feels just fine thanks

The guy isn't politically incorrect, he's an asshole, the way the nasty drunk at the corner of your neighborhood bar is. In fact, I would be amazed if the guy wasn't drunk when he posted his rant.

I tend to point out assholes when I see them. It's gotten me into a few fights in my life and explains why my nose tilts markedly to the left (ironic, I know), but I can't abide an obnoxious, loud mouthed asshole; especially when they start spouting tough guy talk about kicking someone's ass, and the reality is they would **** themselves if ever put in the position of having to make good on their claims. Unfortunately I've met too many assholes like this guy and my reaction is always the same.



layman
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Jul, 2017 11:25 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
If that guy ever got within 10 feet of Trump, Trump would make sure to kick his sorry ass, eh?

I mean, like, who wouldn't?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Wed 12 Jul, 2017 11:27 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

I sincerely hope Hamann sues Hanson. I will happily contribute to any fund intended to cover his legal expense.


Yeah. By "his" I assume you are referring to Hanson, not Hamann.

Yes, of course

His threat was just the bullshit of a slob trying to act tough. Like I responded to Ollie, he's more than likely to crap his pants if he ever gets in front of Trump and has to put up or shut up. He's a disgrace to his office and the State of Maine.
layman
 
  -3  
Thu 13 Jul, 2017 12:20 am
Yeah, that's what I've been sayin for a long-ass spell now, without a single response, ever, from a cheese-eater here, eh?

Quote:
Democrats intentionally used disinformation from Russia to attack Trump, campaign aides

While the mainstream news media hunts for evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, the public record shows that Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the presidential election against Donald Trump and attack his administration.

The disinformation came in the form of a Russian-fed dossier written by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele. It contains a series of unverified criminal charges against Mr. Trump’s campaign aides, such as coordinating Moscow’s hacking of Democratic Party computers.

Democrats have widely circulated the discredited information. Mr. Steele was paid by the Democrat-funded opposition research firm Fusion GPS with money from a Hillary Clinton backer. Fusion GPS distributed the dossier among Democrats and journalists. The information fell into the hands of the FBI, which used it in part to investigate Mr. Trump’s campaign aides.

Mr. Steele makes clear that his unproven charges came almost exclusively from sources linked to the Kremlin and Russian President Vladimir Putin. He identified his sources as “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure,” a former “top level Russian intelligence officer active inside the Kremlin,” a “senior Kremlin official” and a “senior Russian government official.”

As first reported by The Washington Times on April 25, Mr. Steele filed a document in a sealed court case in London acknowledging that a major dossier charge about hacking Democrats’ computers was unverified. The entire dossier never should have been made public and Fusion GPS should not have passed it around, Mr. Steele said in a filing defending himself against a libel charge.

No Democrats have embraced the Russian-sourced dossier more than members of the House intelligence committee, which is investigating Moscow’s interference in the election.

Mr. Schiff read from the dossier extensively at a March hearing featuring Mr. Comey and Navy Adm. Michael Rogers, who leads the National Security Agency.

As Mr. Schiff and other Democrats were bemoaning Kremlin activities against Mrs. Clinton, they were more than willing to quote Kremlin sources attacking Mr. Trump during the election campaign.

“According to Steele’s Russian sources, the campaign has offered documents damaging to Hillary Clinton, which the Russians would publish through an outlet that gives them deniability like WikiLeaks,” Schiff said.

Mr. Schiff also said: “According to Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer, who is reportedly held in high regard by U.S. intelligence, Russian sources tell him that Page has also had a secret meeting with Igor Sechin, CEO of the Russian gas giant, Rosneft. Sechin is reported to be a former KGB agent and close friend of Putin’s.”

Meanwhile, Rep. Joaquin Castro of Texas, another Democrat on the House committee, lauded Mr. Steele’s Kremlin sourcing.

On MSNBC in March, Rep. Maxine Waters, California Democrat, said she believed the dossier section on Mr. Trump and supposed sex acts with prostitutes in Moscow were true.One person who says he knows it is a fabrication is Russian entrepreneur Aleksej Gubarev.

The dossier quotes Russian sources as saying Mr. Gubarev’s technology company, XBT, used botnets to flood Democratic computers with porn and spying devices.

Mr. Gubarev is suing Mr. Steele for libel in London and is suing BuzzFeed in Florida.

It is in the London case that Mr. Steele acknowledged that his memo on Mr. Gubarev was unverified.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/11/democrats-spread-false-russian-information-on-trum/

Steele himself fesses up that it's bullshit, but that doesn't stop the Democrats from praising russia for providing it and claiming it's true, eh?

Payback's a bitch when you called in front of a court of law, under oath, to account, eh?

No "special prosecutor" is needed to investigate and prosecute Democratic election fraud. Jeff Sessions' FBI is gunna take care of that just fine all by themselves.

Nice try, cheese-eaters.
Olivier5
 
  5  
Thu 13 Jul, 2017 12:27 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
My butt feels just fine thanks

That's good to hear.

Quote:
I can't abide an obnoxious, loud mouthed asshole;

That describes your president to a T.
layman
 
  -4  
Thu 13 Jul, 2017 12:38 am
@Olivier5,
Ollie, don't you have some muslim terrorists to go surrender to, or something, eh? We don't cotton to no damn Frogs tryin to insult our Prez, eh? Don't make us come over there. You'd fare better to come surrender to us right now, if you don't prefer the terrorists.
old europe
 
  6  
Thu 13 Jul, 2017 01:57 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
I tend to point out assholes when I see them. It's gotten me into a few fights in my life and explains why my nose tilts markedly to the left (ironic, I know), but I can't abide an obnoxious, loud mouthed asshole; especially when they start spouting tough guy talk about kicking someone's ass, and the reality is they would **** themselves if ever put in the position of having to make good on their claims.


Isn't that just called "presidential behavior" in the era of Trump? Like when he said

Quote:
I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They'd be carried out on a stretcher, folks. It's true. ... I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you.


Fits the description, doesn't it?
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layman
 
  -3  
Thu 13 Jul, 2017 02:18 am
@layman,
This Harvard Law Professor says what I done said, eh?:

layman wrote:
The Supreme Court would NEVER hold that this statue prohibits the communication of information.

Even if it did find that this was the only possible interpretation, it would then just be forced to declare the statute unconstitutional, for violating the First Amendment and for due process reasons.




Like the man said, trying to "stretch" criminal law to somehow "fit" the behavior of your enemies is a stalinist tactic that signals the end of freedom and the rule of law. Also, the First Amendment supersedes any cheese-eater's interpretation of a law, and, for that matter, the statue itself.

Wise up, cheese-eaters.

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hightor
 
  7  
Thu 13 Jul, 2017 03:04 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
He's a disgrace to his office and the State of Maine.

Those words are usually seen referring to our governor, who offically represents the entire State of Maine. Hamann only represents his district in South Portland. You may have missed our State Senator Michael Willette's contributions to the ever-lowering standards of political speech.

Actually it's kind of quaint that people will support Mr. Trump and still claim to be outraged about violations of political decorum. It might be worth pointing out that, "In the case of Watts v. United States (1969), the United States Supreme Court ruled that mere political hyperbole must be distinguished from true threats." But yes, by all means, let's bring back the good old days when the right was seen as populated by people like William F. Buckley. Decent people who dressed conservatively, went to church, and would blanch at someone's careless use of the f-word. Bill Buckley himself always had that offended countenance as if he'd just gotten a whiff of cat manure. Certain things just weren't done. The public face of the Right was respectable — Everett Dirksen types in the Senate, the head of your local Chamber of Commerce, Mrs. Luce, those sorts of people. There was, of course, a sort of proletarian right made up of KKK members and neo-Nazis who were anathema to the respectable conservatives — until Nixon figured out how useful they were when it came to winning elections.
blatham
 
  8  
Thu 13 Jul, 2017 04:32 am
This actually happened.
Quote:
Vice President Pence shared advice Wednesday with a group of students in Chicago on how to be a leader like President Trump, saying a leader must be humble and exercise self-control.

During a speech at the National Student Leadership Conference, Pence said in order for a leader to be like the president, they must listen, be humble, have a character people respect, work to serve others and learn from other leaders.

"I truly believe that to reflect humility is to approach leadership every day as a learner and as a listener," Pence told the students, according to a White House transcript of his speech.
The Hill
I post this as an aid for any who might have thought that a Pence administration would be more honest than the Trump administration.
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blatham
 
  4  
Thu 13 Jul, 2017 04:39 am
This is a verbatim quote from Trump while appearing on Pat Roberts' 700 Club
Quote:
"It was a great G20. We had 20 countries."
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Thu 13 Jul, 2017 06:40 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
He's a disgrace to his office and the State of Maine.

Those words are usually seen referring to our governor, who offically represents the entire State of Maine. Hamann only represents his district in South Portland. You may have missed our State Senator Michael Willette's contributions to the ever-lowering standards of political speech.


I did miss it, but I would say he's a jerk (not quite down to the level of asshole where Hamann resides) At least he apologized, albeit half-heartedly, and didn't threaten to sue anyone calling him out on his being a jerk.

Quote:
Actually it's kind of quaint that people will support Mr. Trump and still claim to be outraged about violations of political decorum. It might be worth pointing out that, "In the case of Watts v. United States (1969), the United States Supreme Court ruled that mere political hyperbole must be distinguished from true threats."


I'm not sure what you're getting at but it can't be in response to anything I've written. First of all, I've criticized Trump for his crass and loutish tweets and comments, but if you expect me to withdraw all support for his presidency, you'll be disappointed.

Secondly, I didn't suggest anyone should take his "threat" seriously, and called it what it was: Tough-talking bullshit from an asshole who was more than likely drunk when he wrote it. If you as a resident of Maine don't want to lay claim to him, I don't blame you, but people see "Maine" next to his name and comments and not "A District in South Portland."

Finally the guy's comments are not politically incorrect or simply rough around the edges. If you can't discern that and distinguish them from the sort of political rhetoric that is merely coarsening our public debate...well, I don't think I would call it quaint.


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Olivier5
 
  7  
Thu 13 Jul, 2017 06:50 am
@layman,
Don't shake these little fists of yours too much, layboy. You gona hurt yoursef...
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