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roger
 
  1  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 01:04 am
@izzythepush,
With that many foxes, you gotta expect to lose a few chickens.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 01:23 am
@roger,
Morrisons has still got plenty of chicken.

I thought it was a cat at first until I got a clear view of its silhouette. Foxes like it in cities, they don't get bothered by the tally ho brigade. They're even in the houses of parliament.

Quote:
Houses of Parliament 'infested with vermin'
Nearly £60,000 was spent last year on eradicating the pests, including mice and foxes.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3481066/Houses-of-Parliament-infested-with-vermin.html
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layman
 
  -3  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 01:55 am
Trump was wise to the CNN 27 years ago (and before that, of course). This aint nuthin new.

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oristarA
 
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Mon 10 Jul, 2017 03:01 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:


Trump's contempt for science has become notorious. He's just unprecedentedly isolated America in G20 meeting! We're glad to see that Bill would like to take the tough job to teach Trump to behave properly. Cool



Edit: ...We're glad to see that Bill would like to take on the tough job of teaching Trump to behave properly.
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oristarA
 
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Mon 10 Jul, 2017 03:13 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

Oh yeah? Me and Mr. Fox have formed a partnership involved with protecting hen houses.


The best part of the news is Tillerson's reaction:

Quote:
However, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said interference in the 2016 election remained an impediment to better relations with Russia, while the US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, said the US "can't trust Russia" and "won't ever trust Russia".


It looks like that he has not lost his mind under T's pressure in this case.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 03:23 am
Quote:
A formal statement from the White House was issued with a very public error - mixing up China and Taiwan.
A press release following Donald Trump's meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping at the G20 summit called him president "of the Republic of China".
That is the official name of Taiwan. Mr Xi is, in fact, President of the People's Republic of China.
Earlier, the White House had also labelled Shinzo Abe president of Japan. He is the prime minister.
The online version of the statement on China now simply refers to "President Xi of China", and the Japan statement has also been corrected.
Social media users were quick to point out the error, which many feel should be obvious to government officials.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40547391<br />
Not knowing the flaming obvious is a feature of this disastrous "presidency."
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oristarA
 
  -1  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 04:27 am
China and Taiwan mixed up in White House gaffe

They want to reduce White House to Why House and American leadership to American studentship.
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gungasnake
 
  -4  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 05:47 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
Trump's contempt for science has become notorious.


Trump has contempt for JUNK science. So do I in fact...
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revelette1
 
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Mon 10 Jul, 2017 09:23 am
Quote:
Donald Trump Jr. acknowledged Sunday that he met with a Russian lawyer who had promised damaging information on Hillary Clinton in June 2016.

The news, which was first reported by the New York Times, represents the most direct suggestion to date of possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and it is the first indication that someone from President Trump's inner circle met with Russians during the campaign. Trump Jr. also brought then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Trump's son-in-law and now-top White House adviser Jared Kushner to the meeting.

But the information isn't just troubling because it suggests the Trump campaign sought out the help of Russians to win the presidency. It also contradicts a number of claims made by the White House, the campaign and Trump Jr. himself — claims made as recently as this weekend. For an administration and campaign that have repeatedly denied contact with Russians and had their denials blow up in their faces, it's yet another dubious chapter.

Let's recap all the times they suggested this kind of thing never happened.

1) Trump Jr. on Saturday: The meeting was about Russian adoption
When the Times first reported the meeting on Saturday, Trump Jr. said that it was about the issue of Russian adoptions and not the campaign.

“We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up,” he said.

Upshot: This statement from Trump Jr. was highly misleading, at best, and it was contradicted just a day later. Clearly the pretext for the meeting was the campaign, and he pretty clearly sought to hide that fact.

2) Trump Jr. in March: No meetings “representing the campaign” with Russians

Trump Jr. told the Times in March that he never met with any Russians while working in a campaign capacity.

“Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did,” he said. “But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.”

Upshot: We now learn that one meeting was, in fact, “set up” and that it was about the campaign

3) President-elect Trump in January: No contact between Trump associates and Russia during campaign

Following a news conference in which Trump didn't directly answer a question about whether there were contacts between his campaign or associates and Russia, Trump flatly denied that there were, according to two reporters who chased him down.

Fortunately ABC's Cecilia Vega asked my question about whether any Trump associates contacted Russians. Trump said no.
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 11, 2017

?? @DavidGroff you must have missed the part of my reporting that said trump came back and answered my first question with a firm "no." https://t.co/oacERpf7fG
— Cecilia Vega (@CeciliaVega) January 12, 2017

Upshot: We don't know precisely the question and the answer that Trump gave after the news conference, but he was asked during the news conference, “Can you stand here today, once and for all, and say that no one connected to you or your campaign had any contact with Russia leading up to or during the presidential campaign?” CNN's Jim Acosta and ABC's Cecilia Vega say he replied “no” when asked again later.

4) Kellyanne Conway in December: “Absolutely not” on contact with Russians trying to meddle

On CBS's “Face the Nation”:

JOHN DICKERSON: Did anyone involved in the Trump campaign have any contact with Russians trying to meddle with the election?
CONWAY: Absolutely not. And I discussed that with the president-elect just last night. Those conversations never happened. I hear people saying it like it's a fact on television. That is just not only inaccurate and false, but it's dangerous and it does undermine our democracy.

Upshot: The most charitable read here would be that Conway interpreted the question as being about hacking or other official government meddling. The Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, says she wasn't working on behalf of the Kremlin. But it's difficult not to see what she did as a form of meddling or influencing the campaign.

5) Vice President Pence in January: “Of course not”

On “Fox News Sunday” on Jan. 15, when Pence passed along Michael Flynn's faulty information about his contact with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak after the campaign, Pence also denied any contact between the campaign and the Kremlin or Russian meddlers.

WALLACE: I’m asking a direct question: Was there any contact in any way between Trump or his associates and the Kremlin or cutouts they had?
PENCE: I joined this campaign in the summer, and I can tell you that all the contact by the Trump campaign and associates was with the American people. We were fully engaged with taking his message to make America great again all across this country. That’s why he won in a landslide election.
(CROSSTALK)
WALLACE: — if there were any contacts, sir, I’m just trying to get an answer.
PENCE: Yes. I — of course not. Why would there be any contacts between the campaign? Chris, the — this is all a distraction, and it's all part of a narrative to delegitimize the election and to question the legitimacy of this presidency. The American people see right through it.

And here he was the same day on “Face the Nation”:

DICKERSON: Just to button up one question, did any adviser or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the election?
MIKE PENCE: Of course not. And I think to suggest that is to give credence to some of these bizarre rumors that have swirled around the candidacy.

Upshot: The second denial is about Russian “meddling,” and the first one is about “contact in any way between Trump or his associates and the Kremlin or cutouts they had.” Again, the best explanation here for the Trump team would be that the Russian lawyer wasn't trying to meddle and wasn't working on behalf of the Kremlin. But the denial is pretty broad.

6) Spicer in February: Doesn't change Trump's January statement
White House press secretary Sean Spicer was asked if Trump's comments from after the January news conference still stood, and he didn't amend them:
QUESTION: Back in January, the president said that nobody in his campaign had been in touch with the Russians. Now today, can you still say definitively that nobody on the Trump campaign — not even General Flynn — had any contact with the Russians before the election?
SPICER: My understanding is that what General Flynn has now expressed is that during the transition period — well, we were very clear that during the transition period, he did — he did speak with the ambassador.
QUESTION: I'm talking about during the campaign.
SPICER: I don't have any — I — there's nothing that would conclude me that anything different has changed with respect to that time period.


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snood
 
  7  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 09:29 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

This is what the crazy, stupid "president" is basically saying to us:

Obama should have done something about the Russian interference that he takes Putin at his word for that he didn't do .

Also, he's going to start a cyber security force along with Putin so together they can prevent the hacking that Putin did, and will do.

I just can't...


So, 24 hours later, after the torrent of guffaws in response to his stupid **** idea, this blithering damn fool shitgibbon says by the way, I know that forming a cyber security force with Russia can't happen.

Seriously, doesn't the damn fool seem like he's just simply LOST?
revelette1
 
  4  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 09:36 am
Quote:
Good morning Mr. President. It would never have occurred to my mother or my father to ask me. Were you giving our country away? Hoping not.
Chelsea Clinton twitter
izzythepush
 
  5  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 09:37 am
@snood,
Not as much as the damn fools who voted for him.
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glitterbag
 
  6  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 09:41 am
@snood,
He's in way over his head and so are his simpleton sons and son-in-law.
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revelette1
 
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Mon 10 Jul, 2017 09:59 am
@layman,
The administration since before they were even in office has been denying having anything to do with the Kremlin or Russian cut outs during the 2016 election. Bit by bit we keep finding how they lied and covered up about having any dealings with Russians during the campaign season. A Russian lawyer lets it be known she has dirt on Clinton during the presidential campaign and Trump Jr goes running and dragging cohorts with him. When it is found out, they lie again what is about until finally admitting to it. Why all the obfuscating if they have nothing to hide?
layman
 
  -4  
Mon 10 Jul, 2017 10:02 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

The administration since before they were even in office has been denying having anything to do with the Kremlin or Russian cut outs during the 2016 election. Bit by bit we keep finding how they lied and covered up about having any dealings with Russians during the campaign season. A Russian lawyer lets it be known she has dirt on Clinton during the presidential campaign and Trump Jr goes running and dragging cohorts with him. When it is found out, they lie again what is about until finally admitting to it. Why all the obfuscating if they have nothing to hide?


Some private attorney, who happens to be russian, is not "the Kremlin." Trump, Jr never "lied" about what was said, as your own source admits. Why don't you read it, eh?. This meeting was also disclosed by both Kushner and Manafort on their security clearance questionnaires. Who "trying to hide" what, other than cheese-eaters trying to hide the truth, I mean?
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