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layman
 
  -4  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 12:45 am
@MontereyJack,
Hahahahahahaha!

Rave on, cheese-eater.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 12:50 am
@snood,
You make me laugh.

As if you would have had a different assessment of the relative frequency and severity of hateful words and deeds of the two sides, before the 2016 campaign and Trump's reprehensible comments.

Or am I wrong and you had both sides neck and neck in their race to the bottom until Trump took the reins and the Republicans surged into the lead?

Your position is both childish and incredibly tribalistic: "Sure my guys have done some lousy things but they have never ever been as terrible as yours!"

More important to you than national unity is that your side (really just a representation of your ego) be seen as not just correct in it's judgment on what are the best policies and plans for the prosperity and security of the nation, but morally superior to the other side.

With a position such as yours, whether held by someone on the Left or the Right, there is no hope of bridging the expansive divide in our society. but then you don't really want to see the chasm closed. unless it is done in a manner in which your side is triumphant and rid of the deplorable and irredeemable louts on the other side. It is the all too pervasive position that so strongly suggests to me that the days of the Union are numbered.

layman
 
  -4  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 12:53 am
As I have posted before (with verbatim language from the applicable statutes), California mandates that everyone who applies for a driver's license (which state law requires be given to illegal aliens) also be registered to vote.

The alien is required by federal law to declare that he is a citizen, but California prohibits any demand that evidence of his citizenship be produced.

But here's the best part:

The statute says that any alien who lies about being a citizen will be presumed to have done so only because he was told to by DMV officials, and hence that he is immune from prosecution.

There are estimated to be about 2.5 million illegal aliens in California, and many, many more who are not "illegal" but who are also not citizens. Clinton got her entire "margin of victory" in the meaningless popular vote in California.

Like whooda thunk, eh, Jack?

Give it a break, cheese-eater.
layman
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 12:58 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
This quote is provided just for you, Finn. You probably knew that anyway. Obviously, no cheese-eater would ever understand it.

David Hume wrote:
“Disputes between men pertinaciously obstinate in their principles are the most irksome. The same blind adherence to their own arguments is to be expected in both; the same contempt of their antagonists; and the same passionate vehemence in enforcing sophistry and falsehood; and, as reasoning is not the source from whence either disputant derives his tenets, it is in vain to expect that any logic, which speaks not to the affections, will ever engage him to embrace sounder principles.”


At the very least ya gotta admit that's one long-ass sentence, eh? Maybe a record, who knows?
layman
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 01:14 am
@layman,
Of course, California aside, there are many more illegal aliens throughout the country. At least 11 million, primarily in Texas, Illinois, New York, and Florida. I'd have to check how many total non-citizens there are--don't know offhand.

Looks like there's another 11+ million there, after a quick check. As of 2015. Turns out that HALF of all the immigrants in the country are illegal, eh?

By the time Trump's term is over, the Democrats will have lost 22 million votes. Ironclad proof of citizenship will be required in ALL states. Then you'll bitch that it's not a TRUE democracy if you don't let non-citizens vote, right, Jack?

But, if you wanna go that route, you'd still get beat. Trump would simply pay the way for about 30 million RUSSIANS to come vote while on vacation, ya know?
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layman
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 01:34 am
I'm working on a poem to publish. Does "Mueller" rhyme with "Bueller?' Seems like it should, don't it?

I'm gunna make MILLIONS with this here poem, I tellzya!

It's called "Mueller's Day Off."
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 02:57 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
And he can immobilize the White House for years. Trump wants to achieve things. This will prevent him from doing so.


By Jove, I think he's got it.....

Trump really needs to fire this jackass immediately and/or issue blanket pardons for any possible witchhunt victims. The most major basic rule for dealing with the kinds of idiots that we read about today (libtards, snowflakes, deep state types...) is the same rule for dealing with hyenas and other wild animals, that is, that you cannot show fear. Not firing this jackass molar at this point amounts to showing fear.
gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 03:00 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Scooter Libby was completely innocent. They convicted him anyway.


Along with Tom DeLay who was finally acquitted of all charges, but only after his political career had been totally annihilated after a totally out of control Dist. Atty. finally managed to shop a totally bullshit case in front of enough grand juries to find one in Austin who would listen to it.
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 03:05 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
MontereyJack wrote:
and they're right now enough to get a completely bipartisan overwhelming condemnation of Russia and total undoing of Trump's present plans to do away with sanctions, even tho it is clear that the Russians meddled in the election and tried to alter election results in 30 states (they hopefully did hnot succees).


Dems signing that **** I could understand. Republicans unfortunately either caved due to pressure of some sort or think they're still up against the CCCP, hard to say.

But if Snerd, Monkeyjerk, and Blatherskite actually believe that ape **** about Russia meddling in last November's electionthen they really need psychiatric help.
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 03:10 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
D) The production of "Killing Republicans-A Rock Opera" which is funded, in part, by the taxpayers of NYC and New York State is a musical that
centers on the assassinations of Republican presidents.


Everybody in that picture including government officials responsible for public funds going to such a venture should be under FBI investigation.
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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 03:18 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
And to repeat it once again, since it still doesn't seem to have sunk in. Trump LOST the popular vote.


That's not only bullshit, it's IRRELEVANT bullshit and anybody who would go on mouthing that irrelevant bullshit at this point is in need of professional help.
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hightor
 
  5  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 03:25 am
Knee Deep in Perjury
Quote:
It is difficult to say what is more damning. The fact that Sessions hosted dinners that were attended by lobbyists working to advance Russian interests, or that those same lobbyists were helping the Trump campaign write Trump’s foreign policy speech.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 03:28 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Impeachment is not decided in the courts. It's decided by a majority of the House. And it's in the Consittution, so a sitting president can clearly be impeached. No criminal case has to be fied, and no cort can judge it.

Another "nevermind the fact that he hasn't committed any crimes, let's impeach him anyway" argument.

You aren't going to remove Trump from office without both of two things:

a) serious evidence of serious crimes, and

b) a convincing argument why anyone should care after Democrats allowed Bill Clinton to get away with perjury, witness tampering, and obstruction of justice.

So in other words, you aren't going to remove Trump from office.


MontereyJack wrote:
And to repeat it once again, since it still doesn't seem to have sunk in. Trump LOST the popular vote.

What is the point of repeating irrelevant facts?


MontereyJack wrote:
Badly.

If he'd lost the popular vote badly he would not have been able to win the electoral college.


MontereyJack wrote:
It was only the anti-democratic electoral college that sleazed him in.

The root of most political problems can be traced to one source: Democrats hate our Constitution.


MontereyJack wrote:
He couldn't win it on his own.

He did win it on his own.


MontereyJack wrote:
The country didn't want him.

The election results say otherwise.


MontereyJack wrote:
The country is rejecting all his initiatives.

No we aren't.


MontereyJack wrote:
We don't want him, his lies, or the flimflam he's peddling.

We want him to crush the Democrats and lead the country into the 21st century.


MontereyJack wrote:
He should just resign now and spare the country the agony he's putting it through..

He should stay in office for the full eight years that we are going to elect him to serve. It will be an excellent start to the next 20 years of Republican rule.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 03:40 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
It is the all too pervasive position that so strongly suggests to me that the days of the Union are numbered.

The Union will be fine. The Republicans just need to comprehensively crush the Democrats to the point where they will no longer be a viable party for 20 years or so.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 03:43 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
Trump really needs to fire this jackass immediately and/or issue blanket pardons for any possible witchhunt victims. The most major basic rule for dealing with the kinds of idiots that we read about today (libtards, snowflakes, deep state types...) is the same rule for dealing with hyenas and other wild animals, that is, that you cannot show fear. Not firing this jackass molar at this point amounts to showing fear.

If this special prosecutor is fired, the Democrats will push to appoint another one.

If there are blanket pardons, there is nothing the Democrats can do to undo that. Congress could still hold investigative hearings, and hypothetically impeach, but without actual evidence of wrongdoing that would go nowhere fast.
izzythepush
 
  4  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 03:44 am
It's not like me to be the peacemaker, but you could do with some of this over there.

Quote:
The family of murdered MP Jo Cox say they hope they are "doing her proud" as events honouring her take place.
The Great Get Together is based on the message in her maiden speech in Parliament that "we have more in common than that which divides us".
More than 100,000 events are taking place across the UK over the weekend.
The family said people's responses to this week's Grenfell Tower fire in London and recent terror attacks showed how people could come together.
Mrs Cox's mother Jean Leadbeater said: "Seeing communities coming together - seeing west London - that's an amazing sight, all colours, creeds, everybody pulling together.
"I think we're getting through, maybe it will take a while but the message will get through. We need to be united. Hate doesn't do anything, it's hope that counts.
"And hopefully we're doing Jo proud by doing the things that she would have been doing."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40307337

Nothing lasts forever, this nightmare will soon be over. Trump will be impeached and his supporters will get the mental health treatment they so desperately need.
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 03:44 am
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2316.htm

June 16, 2017

True Facts About “Russia Hysteria” Sweeping America Shocks Europe

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

Quote:
A new Security Council (SC) report circulating in the Kremlin today says that the European Union (EU) was shocked and stunned yesterday when the US Senate finally revealed that the real truth behind the “Russia Hysteria” meme sweeping America was entirely due to giant United States energy companies seeking to destroy Europe’s existing energy supplies from Russia in order to capture this multi-billion business for themselves in violation of all international laws. [Note: Some words and/or phrases appearing in quotes in this report are English language approximations of Russian words/phrases having no exact counterpart.]

According to this report, in a brazen move labeled by both Germany and Austria as “unacceptable”, the US Senate passed by a vote of 98-2 what they called a “Russian sanction bill” that they spuriously claimed was in reaction to Russia’s never proven interference of the 2016 US presidential election—but whose real and true purpose violates international law, affects European companies and has the real aim of benefitting the US oil and gas sector, Berlin and Vienna said in an angry joint statement.

Having nothing whatsoever to do with Russia’s supposed intervention in the US election, this report continues, this US Senate “Russian sanction bill” is, instead, nothing more than “an instrument of economic warfare” designed to destroy the European Unions existing energy security with Russia in order to supplant it with those of American gas companies—and to which Germany and Austria, speaking for the entire EU, slammed by stating [English]:

“Europe's energy supply is a matter for Europe, and not the United States of America!

We cannot accept threatening European companies that contribute to the development of the European energy supply [system] with extraterritorial sanctions that violate the international law.

Sanctions as a political instrument should not be linked to economic interest that threaten German, Austrian and other European enterprises, which take part in the gas supply projects such as the Nord Stream II together with Russia or finance them, with penalties on the US market would add an absolutely new and highly negative aspect in relations between the US and Europe.

The statement went on to say that Washington’s intention to impose new sanctions against Russia is guided not by some political or humanitarian reasons but rather by economic interest.

“This issue is all about the sales of the US condensed gas [to Europe] and pressing the Russian energy supply companies from the European market. The actual goal [of such sanctions] is to provide jobs for the US gas and oil industry”.

Russia's trade representative in the United States, Aleksander Stadnik, this report says, further stated that these US Senate sanctions create obstacles for Russian, Iranian, Qatar, and other energy companies, while setting conditions for greater access to foreign markets for US companies, and who added: “This has become a blatant push for its [US] oil and gas industry with the use of non-market instruments and prohibited methods”.

Important to note about this issue, this report explains, is that due to what is called “hydraulic fracturing”, the United States has overwhelmed its domestic capacity to store the natural gas it’s now producing—and in order to sell what they are overproducing, they have begun a process to destroy Russia’s longstanding international agreements with the EU that supplies them with cheap energy supplies.

With the European Union receiving 34% of its natural gas supplies from Russia via pipelines, this report details, the American “scheme”, as evidenced by these US Senate sanctions, is to substitute cheap Russian natural gas with the more highly expensive “liquefied natural gas”(LNG) that is processed in the United States and then shipped via large tanker vessels to the European market.

The only American company currently creating LNG for the European market, this report says, is the Houston, Texas, energy giant Cheniere Energy—who aside from flooding the coffers of US lawmakers with “bribes” (called donations [Link and Link]), last week completed the first shipment to Europe of liquefied natural gas in American history.

With Cheniere Energy being the only company currently operating an LNG export terminal in the contiguous United States, this report explains, the US Federal Energy Regulatory Commission is now reporting that about half a dozen other LNG export terminals (which are big, billion-dollar operations) are under construction too—with Professor Eric Smith, the associate director of Tulane University's Energy Institute, stating they are needed because “we have pretty well saturated the domestic market with natural gas”.

Though some Kremlin experts believe that the US House of Representatives will never pass this US Senate “Russian sanction bill”, this report grimly states, President Putin has, nevertheless, ordered a massive drill of all Federation nuclear missile forces—with his stating that prior to his allowing the Americans to implement this law, he will label it what it actually is, “an act of war”.

And as always too, this report concludes, the American people are being kept from knowing these “facts of war” by their mainstream propaganda media; who instead of telling these people the truth about anything, continue their spreading of “fake news”—and as exampled by CNN falsely reporting that President Trump didn’t visit US Congressman Steve Scalise in the hospital where he lies gravely wounded from the George Soros “Republican Massacre” birthday gift to Trump, and, most horribly, the pro-communist Washington Post reporter Malcolm Harris shockingly Tweeting that he hoped Congressman Scalise would die.




oralloy
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 04:11 am
@gungasnake,
Reuters wrote:
Germany threatened on Friday to retaliate against the United States if new sanctions on Russia being proposed by the U.S. Senate end up penalizing German firms.

The Senate bill, approved on Thursday by a margin of 98-2, includes new sanctions against Russia and Iran. Crucially, it foresees punitive measures against entities that provide material support to Russia in building energy export pipelines.

Berlin fears that could pave the way for fines against German and European firms involved in Nord Stream 2, a project to build a pipeline carrying Russian gas across the Baltic.

Among the European companies involved in the project are German oil and gas group Wintershall, German energy trading firm Uniper, Royal Dutch Shell, Austria’s OMV and France’s Engie.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman described the Senate bill, which must be approved by the House of Representatives and signed by President Donald Trump before it becomes law, as "a peculiar move".

He said it was "strange" that sanctions intended to punish Russia for alleged interference in the U.S. elections could also trigger penalties against European companies.

"That must not happen," said the spokesman, Steffen Seibert.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-sanctions-germany-idUSKBN197156
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MontereyJack
 
  5  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 04:32 am
@oralloy,
A blanket pardon is prima facie obstruction of justice for interference with an ongoing investigation He would promptly be impeached for that and shown the gate. Nice try, turkey, it won't work.
gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sat 17 Jun, 2017 04:47 am
The whole idea of impeachment is dead and has been since 1999. If they couldn't impeach SlicKKK KKKlintler, then the history books simply don't offer any evildoer or villain evil or villainous enough TO impeach.

 

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