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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

Oh goody, now, more dem and media bashing in the name of a tragedy instead of addressing gun control.

The answer to Democrats trying to murder us is to outlaw the Democratic Party, not to violate our rights for no reason.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

I just want to get it straight here that I don't agree with you. I care about anyone getting shot and we are trying to change our gun laws, progress takes time, but even so, no one deserves to get shot down like wild dogs.

I think the Democrats learned their lesson with the 2013 gun control debacle. It resulted in the Republicans taking the White House and holding it for the next 20 years.

Americans are not going to give up our Constitutional rights. Period.

Freedom-Hating Democrats might as well get used to that, because it isn't going to change.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

A little more at the source, but I thought that last sentence should be the main point. No matter what side people are on in this political climate, this violence has got to stop.

The way to stop the Democrats from abusing the law to convict us of crimes that we didn't commit, is to outlaw the Democratic Party in America.

The way to stop the Democrats from murdering us in cold blood, is to outlaw the Democratic Party in America.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

All these statements from people familiar with the matter is just more detritus being swept along by the tsunami.

Good point, Finn. But another point is revealed here, assuming there is any truth at all to these "reports:"

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Five people briefed on the requests, who spoke on condition of anonymity....The investigation has been cloaked in secrecy and it’s unclear how many others have been questioned by the FBI.

Cloaked in secrecy, eh? Yet no less than FIVE "insiders" are leaking this to Wapo? It's no longer a "leak." The dyke has clean busted and no boy with his thumb is gunna do the trick to stop it.

Trump needs to start kicking some serious ass at the FBI (or wherever). How many people could possibly have been "briefed on the requests" that are "cloaked in secrecy?" These leaks shouldn't be hard to run down.

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@snood,

snood wrote:

Yeah I know what you mean, but you're right - shouldn't be surprised.
Tell me, GB - how can someone live in this country and NOT know that there is an unjust discrepancy in the amount of blacks vs. the amounts of whites stopped, arrested, shot and killed?

Spare us the BLM freak show. If you don't want to be shot, don't take PCP and try to murder a police officer.

Why is that so hard to figure out?

snood wrote:

Would you have to live in a cave, or just not listen to any news except NRA sponsored shite like Fox and Breitbart? How do you live here and NOT believe that the amount of gun violence here is way over the top out of proportion to other civilized nations?

As if gun violence is somehow worse than violence committed with other weapons?

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

BTW, I agree, Sandy Hook was way more than unfortunate, it was a mass killing of innocent children which would not have been possible if better gun laws were in place and enforced strictly.

If you were able to abolish our Constitution and Bill of Rights, the only difference that it would have made is those kids would have been killed with a bomb instead of with a gun.

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@maporsche,

maporsche wrote:

You can't just simply dismiss suicides.

Sure you can.

maporsche wrote:

If there were less guns, many of these suicides would merely be suicide attempts.

Anyone who is serious about killing themselves will find a way to do it.

maporsche wrote:

I think even you can admit that this is true.

I can't speak for him, but I'll certainly never admit that a falsehood is true.

maporsche wrote:

Guns are a more effective method of committing suicide than say, taking pills.

If someone is determined to die from pills, they will make it work for them.

If they don't like guns and pills they could also jump off a tall building.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

revelette1 wrote:
this violence has got to stop.

How do you propose to go about it?

I have a proposal. We need to outlaw the Democratic Party in America.

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@blatham,

I wasn't associated with Berkeley. I think went to Peet's near there, some time later, but I was long interested, as I went to a similar school. I remember a lot of the Mario Savio stuff, slightly after my time. I was associated via one of our employees. I miss him now, funny man, many decades later. We didn't dislike our employee.

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@snood,

snood wrote:

Un-be-frikking-lievable. They're blaming "the left" for creating a violent atmosphere.

Well yes. Clearly we need to ban the Democratic Party before they do any further harm to people.

snood wrote:

But did they blame Trump for encouraging acts of violence and promising to pay legal fees for those committing them? It isn't even dignified enough to be called hypocrisy. No words.

If Leftist thugs start a fight at a Trump rally, who can blame people for roughing them up a bit? People are sick and tired of these Democrats.

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@layman,

layman wrote:

Quote:
Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say

The special counsel overseeing the investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election is interviewing senior intelligence officials as part of a widening probe that now includes an examination of whether President Trump attempted to obstruct justice, officials said.

The move by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III to investigate Trump’s own conduct marks a major turning point in the nearly year-old FBI investigation, which until recently focused on Russian meddling during the presidential campaign and on whether there was any coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.

The obstruction of justice investigation into the president began days after Comey was fired on May 9, according to people familiar with the matter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html

If this is true, then Mueller should either resign or recuse himself from any involvement with deciding whether the firing of Comey, his longtime close friend, was "proper." That Comey has his own personal "ax to grind" is beyond question.

Any bets on whether he will?

Any bets on whether democratic politicians will insist that he do?

As if it were obstruction for an official to exercise discretion over whether to pursue a case.

This clown is going to need to be fired at some point.

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@oralloy,

what happened today is an outgrowth of extreme obsessions in our political beliefs. He was sorta a "we hqve to outlaw the GOP " type.
From whatever side that kind of insane obsession comes, it needs to be reigned IN by us all.

First time Id seen any collegial statements from congress people since the days of Reagan and Tip O Neil

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

I have a proposal. We need to outlaw the Democratic Party in America.

Holy **** man, enough.

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@oralloy,

Both Comey and his successor (and longtime confidant), McCabe, have assured congress that Comey's firing in NO WAY impeded or ended the collusion investigation. Comey was not, and never was, the person doing the investigating to begin with.

Yet congress, presumably Mueller, and every cheese-eater here wants to pretend that removing him "interfered" with it.

As many, including you and a prominent left-wing law professor, have pointed out, there would be no crime EVEN IF Trump had directly ordered Comey to drop the investigation (which he didn't). If the special prosecutor is indeed investigating this as a "crime," then it's obviously a partisan witch hunt.

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It's long past due for Sessions to procure indictments against Clinton and Loretta Lynch (for starters). That would change the "narrative" and give the cheese-eaters something to bitch about 24/7 that actually concerns them.

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@McGentrix,

I think we should outlaw both sides of the same coin. Wink

Maybe we should break out the guillotines ?

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@McGentrix,

I can't believe it. I agree with McG.

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@layman,

Don't you agree with McGentrix, layman?

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@camlok,

Yes and no. I agree that the suggestion is irrational, although I certainly don't disagree with the sentiments underlying it.

I just look at the constant repetition as a "signature" line, and don't pay any attention to it.

America First, Baby!

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@layman,

Quote:

I agree that the suggestion is irrational

You can be honest. What/whose suggestion?

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