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I was in high school when this whole thing was playing out and it was pretty much pre-internet in my rural town. I've done some reading in the last 20 years but nothing that would have led me to believe that the Lewinsky stuff was all that serious in general. The lying, I agree, is something that should be punished (even though I can understand why he lied).

What is your perception why what Clinton did was so serious (the underlying actions, not the lying to protect his image stuff).

but trying to outlaw a political party seems to me to be Un-American. I'm not challenging your patriotism here,

Tell me this then Finn, if we "know" Clinton lied under oath, why wasn't he convicted of perjury in a court of law?

Technically, Clinton didn't lie under oath when he denied sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky because he was going by the definition provided by the civil court case in which it was decided sexual relations didn't include oral sex.

Trump looks like a traitor, sounds like a traitor and behaves like a traitor.

In any event, taking all that, in the end he was lying about a consensual affair to keep from having to admit to it in the Paula Jones case which was pure politics of desperate people. It was stupid; he was dumb for laying himself open for that trap. But it wasn't malicious

malicious like Trump and his deals with Comey.

Also, the 'temporary ban' was scheduled for 90 day under the guise that the government needed that long to impose new rules and procedures. It's been over a 100 days since the EO was signed now. My Trump's statements at the time, should we believe that it's no longer needed?

"Further, I have no knowledge of any such conversations by anyone connected to the Trump campaign. I did not have any private meetings, nor do I recall any conversations with any Russian officials at the Mayflower Hotel.

"I did not attend any meetings at that event separate prior to the speech I attended by the president.

"The suggestion that I participated with any collusion, that I was aware of any collusion with the Russian government to hurt this country, which I have served with honor for 35 years, or to undermine the integrity of our democratic process, is an appalling and detestable lie."

The evidence is pouring in that Trump is indeed a Putin collaborator.

Trump defenders increasingly have to look at themselves and realize they've slowly become Putin's Fifth Column.

And given that the Democrats were actively in favor of the Soviets during the Cold War, when they were an actual danger to humanity, the Democrats' present day "concerns" over Russia are worthy of ridicule.

Blickers wrote:

Quote Olivier 5:

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Your president conspired with the Russian mafia clique in order to get elected. He's a traitor.

The evidence is pouring in that Trump is indeed a Putin collaborator. Trump defenders increasingly have to look at themselves and realize they've slowly become Putin's Fifth Column.

Pouring in Gracie? You libitards kill me...ok his impeachment is certainly imminent then huh?...take the bet...your screen name against mine...now don't be a 🐔 (cluck cluck) have the courage of your convictions!

Sessions calls Dem narrative "an appalling, detestable lie"

Well, I read your later post, the fact is Bill Clinton was never charged with perjury in a court of law much less convicted. So layman's post is bull crap.

Bill Clinton admitted to making false statements and apologized for it. In my judgement, it was enough for what he did. He has had to live with that legacy all these years and in the end it was nothing but a sexual matter. I am done discussing this.