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blatham
 
  3  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 05:18 pm
Sessions will testify in public. So I got that wrong.
blatham
 
  4  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 05:25 pm
Quote:
Trump's first full cabinet meeting was surprisingly creepy
Presidential cabinet meetings are, as a rule, dull. We generally see a president offer some brief remarks for the cameras, while his cabinet members watch on. Soon after, a president may answer a question or two from reporters, at which point the press is ushered out, the doors close, and the meeting begins in earnes

Donald Trump, meanwhile, hosted his first full cabinet meeting this morning, and it wasn't like anything we've ever seen, at least in the United States. The Washington Post reported:

Quote:
President Trump on Monday used his first full-fledged Cabinet meeting to try to make a case that, despite the Russian investigation and other distractions, his administration is racking up accomplishments at a record clip.

"Never has there been a president, with few exceptions -- case of FDR, he had a major depression to handle -- who has passed more legislation and who has done more things than what we've done," Trump, referring to President Franklin D. Roosevelt, said during the meeting at the White House.


It seems entirely plausible to me that Trump has no idea what "legislation" means, and when he signs executive orders and glorified press releases, he thinks he's breaking major new policy ground.

But if you watch the C-SPAN video from the cabinet room, note that after the president's odd praise for himself, Trump went around the room, offering each member of his cabinet an opportunity to talk about how much they like him and are proud to serve in his administration. With few exceptions, that's precisely what they did
Benen

Also, let it be known across the land that when Donald Trump played his first round of golf at six years of age, he scored a hole in one on all 18 holes. And then, while rain poured down all around the golf course, the sun shone down lighting Donald alone as he stood on the eighteenth green, doves circling lovingly around him.
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snood
 
  6  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 05:45 pm
@blatham,
That cabinet meeting reminds me of the old joke: After going on about how wonderful he is, the narcissist says to his girlfriend "Enough about me. Now you tell about all the things YOU like about me. "
Sturgis
 
  2  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 05:51 pm
@blatham,
...and I take it, that's about when he woke up and asked his manservant if he had completed the homework assignment, because, he wanted to continue getting Cs and Ds at school. (which of course another manservant converted into AAAA++++s)
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Sturgis
 
  4  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 05:53 pm
@blatham,
Sessions is already a known liar (I refer to his confirmation hearing and Russia info), so I don't see its going to make much of a matter where he 'testifies' with this batch of lies.
nimh
 
  5  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 05:57 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Thanks to Comey, according to Gallup, Trump's job approval rating went up by 5 points (34% to 39%) in just 6 days (from June 4 to June 10).

Trump job approval
Gallup

Code:June 3 . 36%
June 4 . 37%
June 5 . 38%
June 6 . 38%
June 7 . 37%
June 8 . 37%
June 9 . 39%
June 10. 38%
June 11. 36%
blatham
 
  3  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:00 pm
@snood,
We knew Trump was a maniac. We've always known that. What's so horribly scary and depressing here is that all those others are playing along rather than walking out and resigning en masse.
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:04 pm
@Sturgis,
Quote:
Sessions is already a known liar (I refer to his confirmation hearing and Russia info), so I don't see its going to make much of a matter where he 'testifies' with this batch of lies.
Understood. But he does now, with this decision, put himself in the spotlight and with that comes very close attention and legal jeopardy. He will certainly be as well prepared for this as they can craft the thing but there are serious risks here.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:04 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
How about offering an Intern a govt job in exchange for not telling about BJ's?

So who did that? Certainly not Bill. Get your story straight.

I don't remember if Bill Clinton did that or not.

I do remember that Bill Clinton:

a) lied under oath in a civil case (perjury),

b) lied under oath in front of a grand jury (perjury),

c) coached Betty Curie on how she should testify in court (witness tampering), and

d) sent Betty Curie out to hide evidence from investigators (obstruction of justice).
oralloy
 
  -4  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:07 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Obviously you have no factual information bout McCain and his capture than the crap you suck up from our "Liar -in-Chief" Trump.

I am fully aware of all the facts. If McCain doesn't want me to denounce him as a surrendering coward then he should stop knifing his fellow Republicans in the back.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:08 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
This SCOTUS (if they end up getting the case) will probably rule in Cheetolini's favor, don'tcha think?

Yep.

(Trump hasn't cheated.)
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layman
 
  -3  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:09 pm
@nimh,
The figures you give have been changed from yesterday and do NOT correspond to the graph shown (which does NOT appear to have changed). For whatever reason, they are wrong. Some glitch.
blatham
 
  4  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:10 pm
@nimh,
Quote:
Thanks to Comey, according to Gallup, Trump's job approval rating went up by 5 points (34% to 39%) in just 6 days (from June 4 to June 10).
Wouldn't it be fun to know how our participant arrived at this figure.
Lash
 
  -4  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:10 pm
@oralloy,
Oralloy is got damn right.

Worse than anything Trump has done...so far.

oralloy wrote:

Blickers wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
How about offering an Intern a govt job in exchange for not telling about BJ's?

So who did that? Certainly not Bill. Get your story straight.

I don't remember if Bill Clinton did that or not.

I do remember that Bill Clinton:

a) lied under oath in a civil case (perjury),

b) lied under oath in front of a grand jury (perjury),

c) coached Betty Curie on how she should testify in court (witness tampering), and

d) sent Betty Curie out to hide evidence from investigators (obstruction of justice).
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:10 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
Officials in Maryland and Washington DC are suing Donald Trump for accepting payments from foreign governments via his business empire.
The lawsuit cites the US constitution's emoluments clause, which says no federal official should receive a gift or a fee from a foreign government.
The suit - which is the first of its kind filed by government entities - claims Mr Trump is "flagrantly violating the constitution".

It'll be interesting seeing them try to explain their standing to sue to the Supreme Court.
layman
 
  -2  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:11 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
Thanks to Comey, according to Gallup, Trump's job approval rating went up by 5 points (34% to 39%) in just 6 days (from June 4 to June 10).
Wouldn't it be fun to know how our participant arrived at this figure.


You would know, if you looked at my posts, fool
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nimh
 
  6  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:12 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
Trump and his Arab homeys will **** you plumb UP, Qatar, if ya don't stop with the islamic terrorism.

How precious to think that supporting the Saudis (!) against the Qataris is a matter of opposing "islamic terrorism".

Well, the whole thing isn't so precious for a friend of mine who lives in Qatar... though for now it seems there's no reason for panic.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:14 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
According to the Constitution, a High Crime or Misdemeanor is whatever the House and Senate at the time thinks it is in regards to removing a President from office. After that removal, there is no punishment-the former President would need to be tried and convicted by the court system for any punishment to occur.

That the Democrats try to remove presidents from office when they have done nothing wrong is exactly the reason why we need to outlaw the Democratic Party in America.


Blickers wrote:
Many would disagree.

It is a fact that Trump has not committed any crime. If Democrats choose to disregard reality, that doesn't change reality.


Blickers wrote:
However, for Trump to be impeached and convicted, the House and the Senate decide what High Crimes and Misdemeanors have been proven-once the President has been removed, then the Courts can decide if what the President did was a crime. It is quite possible the Court can disagree with Congress and decide the former President committed no crime, in which case he remains a free man. He doesn't get his job back, though.

We need to outlaw the Democratic Party in America in order to prevent them from committing abuses like this.


Blickers wrote:
Not during impeachment and conviction proceedings it's not.

No, the fact that Trump has not done anything wrong is entirely relevant.

That the Democrats want to persecute people who have done nothing wrong means that the Democratic Party needs to be abolished.


Blickers wrote:
The House and Senate decide if the President is guilty of High Crimes or Misdemeanors according to their understanding of the terms, and if they think he has, the President is out on his ass.

The fact that he hasn't done anything wrong means that he is not guilty of anything.


Blickers wrote:
The only thing the courts can decide is if an ex-President goes to jail or not-he's still an ex-President either way.

We need to outlaw the Democratic Party before they can commit an abuse like this.
Blickers
 
  3  
Mon 12 Jun, 2017 06:14 pm
@oralloy,
Officials in Washington State sued and got Trump's travel ban shot down because it violated Constitutional rights. Why shouldn't these state officials have the right to sue on Constitutional grounds also?
 

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