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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
farmerman
 
  5  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 05:03 am
@hightor,
"LORDY I HOPE THERE ARE TAPES"

Theres already a tee shirt
gungasnake
 
  -3  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 05:32 am
http://www.dailywire.com/news/17301/cnn-forced-issue-humiliating-correction-after-john-nolte?utm_campaign=foramerica&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=1496940266#
layman
 
  -3  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 05:48 am
@gungasnake,
I've already addressed this point, but it's worth repeating, eh?:

Quote:
In his letter to Comey, Trump revealed that on three separate occasions Comey told him that he (Trump) was not under investigation. (Why he refused to inform the American people of this vital fact is for another day.)

Naturally, the news that Trump is not under investigation undermined and greatly alarmed a media eager to relentlessly push their hoax about the Trump campaign colluding with Russia to keep Hillary Clinton from campaigning in Wisconsin.

And so CNN's Gloria Borger and Jake Tapper (along with three other fake journalists) came up with a source, a single source, an anonymous source, that told the corrupt media exactly what they wanted to hear:

"Comey is going to dispute the president on this point. He will say he never assured Donald Trump that he was not under investigation, that that would have been improper for him to do so.”

In fewer than two weeks, one CNN employee has "beheaded" President Trump, another has called Trump a "piece of sh*t," and the network itself has been caught on video stage-managing a protest. If that is not bad enough, just yesterday The Daily Wire broke the news that CNN's own parent company, Time-Warner, is sponsoring the nightly "assassination" of Trump.

Overall, it has been an awful year for CNN in the credibility and basic decency department, as CNN anchors have called for people to be raped and attacked 12-year-old girls who don't want to be exposed to naked men. The network itself is also facing a discrimination lawsuit from upwards of 175 minorities who claim they were discriminated against in ways not seen since the Jim Crow South.


Lash
 
  -1  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 05:50 am
@jcboy,
Hilarious.
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snood
 
  4  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 05:55 am
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa101/janblount/lying_zps7fddhxa4.png
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layman
 
  -3  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 05:57 am
People claim that Trump wanted to clear the room and leave him alone with Comey only because he planned on doing something "wrong."

They're right.

But not for the reason they think.

Trump had planned to put a bullet in Comey's sorry head, then put the gun in his dead hand, and claim he saw him commit suicide because Trump fired him.

But he decided against it when he saw that Comey wasn't worth the price of a bullet.

Trump, he don't NEVER waste no money.

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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 06:17 am
@layman,
CNN sounds like a sort of a corporate equivalent of a hog farm, doesn't it...
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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 06:17 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Re: hightor (Post 6442451)
"LORDY I HOPE THERE ARE TAPES"

Theres already a tee shirt

Perfect! It's a classic.
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 06:19 am
Still just hearing mainly the sound of silence from the tards here, they must still be in a sort of a state of shock....
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giujohn
 
  -2  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 06:28 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

"LORDY I HOPE THERE ARE TAPES"

Theres already a tee shirt


"LORDY, LEAKER, LIAR" t-shirt...yeah boy
revelette1
 
  3  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 06:46 am
@giujohn,
Somehow I doubt your version of the tea shirt is as catchy.

People in former positions write books, give speeches and all kinds of things about their times in office with presidents. Comey memos were not classified. Trump had fired Comey, so he was no longer an FBI agent. It is not as though he had to sign a confidentiality agreement like many of Trump's employees.
snood
 
  4  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 06:53 am
Y'know, I don't agree with the resident conservative/republican members about virtually anything, but every once in a while I can see small slivers of agreement about some things - usually human interest things or issues about basic decency.
But I have to say, I cannot understand what kind of human being continues to blindly defend the thing that is occupying the white house. He openly hobnobs with Russians and Saudis. He gets caught in a lie practically every day. He shows himself to be woefully lacking in maturity or knowledge every time he opens his mouth or his twitter feed. He is like a toddler with a loaded gun, and the potential victim is our very goddam existence as a democratic republic.

To their credit, there are at least a couple of them (Finn comes to mind) who have made at least an effort to remain circumspect about this man Trump. At least a couple who admit to the obvious gaping deficiencies in the man's cognitive or statesmanship abilities. But by and large every embarrassing, immoral, unethical and potentially unlawful thing this man does gets brushed aside by the (for lack of better terms) conservatives here, or even held up as a badge of pride or sign of competence.

Not only that, but his obvious deficiencies get brushed aside and instead the real or imagined foibles of Hillary or Obama get targeted - as if that is in any way relevant right now.

Seriously, I mean, really... WTF?
blatham
 
  3  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 06:55 am
We now have Trump's first tweet
Quote:
“Despite so many false statements and lies, total and complete vindication...and WOW, Comey is a leaker!”
WP

A second tweet followed shortly after
Quote:
"We have always been at war with Eastasia"

revelette1
 
  3  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 06:59 am
@blatham,
Ok, I'll go ahead, what is "Eastasia?"
blatham
 
  2  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 07:07 am
@snood,
Quote:
Seriously, I mean, really... WTF?

A half century of what has effectively been a propaganda operation asserting that liberals will destroy America. Therefore, most anything done by Republicans/conservatives is excusable if in the service of damaging liberalism.
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snood
 
  3  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 07:07 am
He's supposed to be having a press conference today with some other head of state. I only remember ONE press conference 45 has done facing the questions alone. And it was a frigging disaster. Were there others, or is my memory right?
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 07:08 am
@revelette1,
Quote:
Ok, I'll go ahead, what is "Eastasia?"

That's a "Nineteen Eighty Four" reference, you forgetful girl.
revelette1
 
  4  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 07:13 am
Quote:
In his prepared testimony before Congress, James Comey says he spoke alone with President Barack Obama on just two occasions — once simply for Obama to say a brief goodbye. In contrast, he adds, “I can recall nine one-on-one conversations with President Trump in four months.”

These were profoundly uncomfortable and in some cases “very concerning” and highly irregular, recounts Comey, who was fired as F.B.I. director last month. After one conversation, he says, “I took the opportunity to implore the attorney general to prevent any future direct communication between the president and me.

Trump sought a pledge of personal loyalty so as to turn the head of the F.B.I. into a political lackey. “I need loyalty,” Comey quotes Trump as telling him. “I expect loyalty.”

“I didn’t move, speak or change my facial expression in any way during the awkward silence that followed,” Comey adds. “We simply looked at each other in silence.”

Trump’s behavior is reminiscent of what tin-pot despots do. I know, for I’ve covered the overthrow of more than I can count.

So let’s not get mired in legal technicalities. Whether or not it was illegal for Trump to urge Comey to back off his investigation into Russia ties to Mike Flynn, who was fired as national security adviser, it was utterly inappropriate. What comes through is a persistent effort by Trump to interfere with the legal system. There’s a consistent pattern: Trump’s contempt for the system of laws that, incredibly, he now presides over.

All this is of course tied to Russia and its equally extraordinary attack on the American political system last year. The latest revelation is that Russian military intelligence executed a cyberattack on at least one supplier of American voting software and tried to compromise the computers of more than 100 local voting officials.

Comey specifies in his testimony, to be presented Thursday, that he told Trump that there was no personal investigation of him, but that this might change. Comey seems to have an open mind — a good lesson for all of us.
To frame the Comey testimony, consider the staggering comments this week of James Clapper, the director of national intelligence until early this year.

“Watergate pales really, in my view, compared to what we’re confronting now,” said Clapper, a former lieutenant general with a long career in intelligence under Republican and Democratic presidents alike. He added: “I am very concerned about the assault on our institutions coming from both an external source — read Russia — and an internal source — the president himself.”

As Clapper suggested, Trump has been undermining the institutions and mores that undergird our political process; whether or not his conduct was felonious, it has been profoundly subversive.

Apart from Comey and the Russia investigation, Trump has systematically attacked the institutions of American life that he sees as impediments. He denounced judges and the courts. He has attacked journalists as “the enemy of the people,” and urged that some be jailed for publishing classified information. He has publicly savaged Democrats and Republicans who stand up to him.

More broadly, Trump has ignored longstanding democratic norms, such as that a presidential candidate release tax returns and obey certain ethics rules. He flouts conventions against nepotism. And perhaps most fundamentally, he simply lies at every turn: Politicians often spin and exaggerate, they even lie in extremis to escape scandal. But Trump is different. He lies on autopilot, on something as banal as the size of inauguration crowds.

Obama was meticulous about ethics rules. He consulted lawyers before accepting the Nobel Peace Prize; aides were forced to give up Twitter accounts when they left office, to ensure they had not benefited improperly by gaining followers.

In contrast, the Trump family seems indifferent to optics — and determined to monetize the presidency. The latest ugliness is in a devastating exposé by Forbes about charity work by Eric Trump to raise money for children with cancer.

Eric raised some $16 million, which is wonderful. The Trump family had claimed to donate the use of its golf courses for these charity events, so that virtually all of the money raised was flowing to the sick children. Instead, Forbes says, the Trumps charged huge sums to hold the events — misleading the public, and profiting from donations intended for sick children.

Stiffing kids with cancer? This is cartoonlike. (The family hasn’t responded in detail, although Eric did say that, to him, the critics are “not even people.” He lamented that “morality’s just gone.”)

President Trump sought office as a law-and-order campaigner, and he is overseeing a crackdown against refugees, immigrants, drug offenders and other vulnerable people. But he is also systematically undermining the rule of law as “those wise restraints that make men free,” in the words of the late law professor John Maguire.

So as we watch Comey testify, remember that the fundamental question is not just whether the president broke a particular law regarding obstruction of justice, but also whether he is systematically assaulting the rule of law that makes us free.


NYT

Perhaps we should have read this before Thursday. It reminds us what is important. Even if technically (I think the case could easily be made by congress but they won't do it) it would be an uphill battle to prove obstruction of justice since Trump couched his words as "hope" instead of a direct order, it is still important to remember the narrative of what happened with Comey and Trump. It is actually a disgrace whether it can proved or not.
blatham
 
  2  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 07:15 am
Trump's favorability continues its steady decline and had fallen to 34 - 38 before the Comey hearing. God knows where it will go now.
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revelette1
 
  2  
Fri 9 Jun, 2017 07:20 am
@blatham,
Well I'll go further and admit I never read the novel or had any interest in it even though I have heard the reference of George Orwell. I had to look up on google "Nineteen Eighty-Four" and "Eastasia" to get an even a vague idea of what you are talking about.

Never mind.
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