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blatham
 
  8  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 06:32 am
@snood,
The defense of Putin's regime coming from the modern right is due only to one single factor - the emotional and cognitive need to support the present GOP leader regardless of all else. That's it. It is an extremely dangerous and frightening phenomenon. It is how demagogues and authoritarians are permitted to gain power with all of the predictable and very awful consequences.
hightor
 
  5  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 06:32 am
@Lash,
Quote:
There has been no evidence linking the Russian government to behavior that damaged Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

So it's okay for a Russian military intelligence unit to mount cyberattacks against election officials and a company involved with voter registration software as long as it can't be shown to have damaged Clinton's campaign? Oh, okay then.

And anyway, you're probably right because Mr. Putin denies any responsibility.
Quote:
You're being let around by the nose.

I'll let others compose their own silent rejoinders to this seriously damaging accusation..
snood
 
  6  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 06:35 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
Fact CheckerAnalysis
EPA chief Scott Pruitt claims that ‘almost 50,000 jobs’ have been gained in coal. He isn’t even close.
WP

Read this to get the magnitude of Pruitt's attempt to deceive. This administration is filled with really horrible humans.


I watched this guy duck, dodge and blatantly lie this morning. Some real pieces of work on 45's "team".
blatham
 
  6  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 06:43 am
I hadn't even thought about this at all but it must be one hell of a problem for those faced with the task.
Quote:
Trump in translation: president's mangled language stumps interpreters
Translators describe grappling with Trump’s mannerisms for an international audience: ‘We try to grasp the context, but it’s so incoherent’
Guardian
blatham
 
  5  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 06:45 am
@snood,
Quote:
I watched this guy duck, dodge and blatantly lie this morning.
Yes. Even Wallace at Fox was clearly disgusted with the guy last weekend.
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snood
 
  5  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 06:50 am
@blatham,
Yeah translation has got to be hard with the marmalade shutgibbon. Hell, we can't understand the damn English version of his babbling.
snood
 
  6  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 06:57 am
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSEcsJILm-h0aPj41Hp5dLzsAEdGKW3Z-hETnONRa5FZdAbUrC9https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/e/e9/16.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20120611160446
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Lash
 
  -1  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 07:04 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
There has been no evidence linking the Russian government to behavior that damaged Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

So it's okay for a Russian military intelligence unit to mount cyberattacks against election officials and a company involved with voter registration software as long as it can't be shown to have damaged Clinton's campaign? Oh, okay then.

And anyway, you're probably right because Mr. Putin denies any responsibility.
Quote:
You're being let around by the nose.

I'll let others compose their own silent rejoinders to this seriously damaging accusation..


The US and Russia (and Israel and the U.K.) and everybody who's anybody spies and attempts to influence elections - no one probably more than the US.

This was probably business as usual - and a convenient distraction from actual evidence of the real crime by Clintonites.

As you know.

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snood
 
  3  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 07:15 am
Holy jumping Jesus.
The Russia investigations are all a ploy to cover the crimes of the "Clintonites".
(I'll probably be sorry I asked, but)Who else here believes that?
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 07:21 am
@snood,
The Russians didn't pray enough to St. Joshua, the patron saint of the spies.
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blatham
 
  5  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 07:56 am
Quote:
Trump: Mainstream media trying to get me to stop using social media

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he uses social media to present his “honest an unfiltered message,” a tactic that he said the “fake” mainstream media would like him to stop.

The remark, made via Twitter, came one day after counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway criticized the press for having “this obsession with covering everything he says on Twitter and very little of what he does as president.”

“The FAKE MSM is working so hard trying to get me not to use Social Media. They hate that I can get the honest and unfiltered message out,” the president wrote on Twitter Tuesday morning. “Sorry folks, but if I would have relied on the Fake News of CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, washpost or nytimes, I would have had ZERO chance winning WH.”

In fact, the people who want Trump to stop using Twitter are the strategists and communications people around him in the administration and GOP politicos who aren't insane.

Even Trump himself has previously said, many times, that the media are profiting from covering him because he pulls in readers and eyeballs like nobody else does.

Probably, to some significant degree, this is Trump expressing his sense that he is being victimized by media which has learned long ago to mistrust him because of his constant lies and exaggerations. But it is also something else at work here. Something really very ugly and dangerous - the authoritarian/dictatorial demand that only HIS voice (or the voices of those who back him, like InfoWars or Fox) be attended to.

And with this demand, Trump is counting on (and helping to further foster) a very particular behavior from a very particular group of Americans. He is counting on a GOP-voting base, long primed to reject information which is inimical to GOP/modern conservative goals and ideas, to reject even more strongly and pervasively any information or commentary which criticizes Trump and his administration. This, of course, is what "fake news" and "the lying media" is all about.

Trump is taking this right wing attack on independent media to a new and very divisive, dangerous level. And he's not alone in this.
Quote:
GOP strategists plot anti-media strategy for 2018 elections
BY ALEX ROARTY AND LINDSAY WISE
Conservative radio hosts mock a physical assault on a reporter. A GOP governor blasts a reporter on Twitter as "a sick man." The president accuses the media of being an “enemy of the people.”

This is not run-of-the-mill Republican criticism of the press anymore. It is now a deliberate strategy to help GOP candidates win elections fueled by public hatred of reporters.

“Does anyone want to see a reporter badly injured? No,” said Tobe Berkovitz, a Boston University advertising expert who advises congressional and gubernatorial election campaigns. "But there are some people who think this is their comeuppance: ‘You’ve been strutting around with no accountability and maybe you should be held accountable.’”
McClatchy

Notice that bolded sentence and how the term "accountability" is turned on its head and now means subservience to Trump's desires and modern conservative goals/ideas, no matter how whimsical, or how uneducated, or how negatively consequential. It means, here, that media must cease in questioning and criticizing the regime in power if that regime is Republican.

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blatham
 
  4  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 08:04 am
@snood,
Quote:
Holy jumping Jesus.
The Russia investigations are all a ploy to cover the crimes of the "Clintonites".
(I'll probably be sorry I asked, but)Who else here believes that?

It's hard to imagine anyone being quite that stupid. And in this person's case, I don't imagine that.

But in any case, watch what happens tomorrow. For the conservatives posting here (Finn perhaps a bit of an exception) and for many conservatives elsewhere it will not matter at all what Comey reveals on Thursday, under oath. What he says will be rejected, if and where Trump and his administration is placed in an unflattering light. That is all that now matters to these people. That's how the scales are set. That's how "truth" is established.

snood
 
  3  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 08:13 am
@blatham,
Quote:
watch what happens tomorrow

I'm sure you meant day after tomorrow?
blatham
 
  3  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 08:27 am
@snood,
Quote:
I'm sure you meant day after tomorrow?
Yes. I did mean Thursday.
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giujohn
 
  -3  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 08:38 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

Demmunist "women"....

http://i.imgur.com/6cUTu1X.jpg

Oh com'on now Gunga, I just had breakfast.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 08:44 am
@blatham,
Well if you take the New Deal as the catalyst for the conservative movement, you have to include Hoover and Taft

I don't really disagree with you as respects the others you've named. Welch and his followers were pretty much purged by Buckley but he did have influence for a while.

I have to admit that I'm not familiar with Richard Viguerie
maporsche
 
  5  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 08:45 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

snood wrote:

Would you name some news sources you consider reputable and reliable?


No, I doubt the " a highly classified National Security Agency report " part. If it got out, it probably wasn't actually a highly classified National Security Agency report.


Do you think there would have been an arrest if the information wasn't classified?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/politics/federal-contractor-leak-prosecution/index.html
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 08:50 am
@layman,
For whatever reasons the London Muslim community seems to be very hardcore.
maporsche
 
  5  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 09:02 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
I suppose it may be kinda like the Israel. Years and years and years of being the "enemy" by whomever's definition could harden a person heart pretty severe.

Not excusing that attitude wherever it exists, just contemplating how they might have gotten there.

I researched this poll and couldn't find the original anywhere, so I'm not sure I trust the numbers. But if it's true, that's a problem.
ehBeth
 
  3  
Tue 6 Jun, 2017 09:06 am
@blatham,
Do some more reading on Clare Booth Luce. Pretty important player.
 

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