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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
gungasnake
 
  -2  
Sat 3 Jun, 2017 09:12 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
How G.O.P. Leaders Came to View Climate Change as Fake Science


That one isn't difficult despite any sort of an impression which the New York slimes might create.

They (Republicans) went to school, studied, learned the rudiments of logic, learned how to distinguish bullshit from reality, learned how to avoid doing sheep/lemming imitations, learned how to recognize junk science and scams when they see them.....
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layman
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 12:01 am
@layman,
layman wrote:

Of course the attacks are "ongoing." Have been for years, and will be for years to come, given the Limeys' lack of action to eliminate these terrorists. They just invite more and more in, that's all.


Like I done said, eh?

Quote:
London terror attacks: Questions raised about intelligence failure after decision to lower threat level

Questions will be asked following the latest terrorist attacks in London about the decision by Theresa May’s government to reduce the threat warning from the highest category after the Manchester murder.

The downgrading of assessment from critical to severe and removing troops from the streets will also lead to deep concern that there has been a failure of intelligence.

Witnesses claimed that 10 to 15 minutes elapsed before armed police arrived at the scene and also that unarmed community police officers appeared to be helpless to act as the stabbing sprees started.


I wonder how long it took the police helicopter to get to the party playing the Bin Laden song, eh?

Are Bobbies on the beat even allowed to carry guns in Britain? I know they never used to.

Current body count: 6 dead, 48 injured. I wonder if they'll raise the threat level back up? Probably not. The muslim mayor of London said they just have to learn to live with it.

The demand for cheese in Britain must be driving cheese prices sky-high, eh?
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 12:25 am
@layman,
Your sympathy with the victims is very much appreciated.
layman
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 12:29 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Your sympathy with the victims is very much appreciated.


Who dat?

If you ask a cheese-eater, the dead terrorists are the victims here, eh?

Despite being the most peaceful people in the world, they have been FORCED to hate the west. They have no options but to kill. They been driven to it by discrimination and oppression. It's merely self-defense at this point. It's just unfortunate that they have to die in process of killing westerners. It just aint no fair to shoot them, but what do you expect from the perpetual oppessors? They'll all rot in hell for killing an innocent muslim.
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gungasnake
 
  -1  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 01:49 am
There actually are good people in the world who happen to be Muslims and those people may even constitute a majority of Muslims in the world. The problem is, that doesn't matter. It is the lunatics who are interpreting that religion, as it is actually written down and as 1400 years of history declare it to be, correctly.

Islam needs to either be massively reformed, or destroyed.
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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 02:01 am
https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18835600_702820286589434_1289812654989821384_n.jpg?oh=9d46fed6304612e47acd192784fa8062&oe=59AE49C2
hightor
 
  5  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 02:46 am
@Brandon9000,
Quote:
So, you cannot think of an example from history of any human who has done what they claim to have done to earn this money.

Not just "any " human, though. In order to make a proper comparison you'd need to find either someone who was married to the former leader of a wealthy country and had spent time in elected and appointed positions himself, or the reverse, having been a leader and married to another powerful government figure. And not receiving royalties from books. They really have a rather unique stature. Frankly I don't know how you would find similar examples — THIS is as close as I could get — and look who heads the list!

Look, Brandon9000, I'm sorry for the intemperate tone of my previous reply, but you're the one who's fixated on this, not me. I'm not here to defend the Clintons — who I don't hold in great respect — and if you wish to believe they are criminals you may continue to do so. I'm just saying that I believe their reported income sources are sufficient to explain their wealth.
hightor
 
  4  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 03:16 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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You do realize, don't you, that he's not bound to govern in accordance with your wishes?

I believe he is bound to explain the reversal of any of his long-held positions — not in accordance with my wishes — he owes it to the people who voted for him.
Quote:
What he said on the campaign trail is meaningless unless you are going to hold all candidates to what they say.

If he begins to accept the prevalent understanding of CC then he will need to explain it to his followers because he had previously rejected the science. Otherwise he will appear to have been sucked into the dismal swamp of DC politics.
Quote:

No it doesn't if humanity is on the verge of extinction.

Well, we're not on the verge of extinction. Many species of plants and animal are, and many natural systems — weather patterns, ocean currents, glaciers — are undergoing rapid (on a geological time scale) transformation. It is posited that these will affect human societies at some point in the future, but I doubt that they will lead directly to extinction. The calculus was that developing countries would be able to shift over to new energy technologies within an allowable window of time. And, as I pointed out, but you chose to ignore, China and India have made commitments to developing renewable energy and are showing pretty rapid progress.
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We don't have more than these other countries because we stole their wealth.

And where did I say that? We don't "owe" these countries our prosperity. It's in our own best interests to help these countries achieve political and economic stability. It's not that dissimilar from the social services we provide to the poor in the USA — we don't "owe" the poor anything. We choose to provide them with some measure of relief because the alternative — a vast sea of unhealthy, hungry, angry, alienated people — leads quickly to social instability. That's not "leftist" ideology. It's common sense. Left and right don't enter the picture until we look at the means by which we wish to accomplish our ends.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 03:30 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
The real calamity in the picture would be economic and political and it would arise from listening to these asshole Malthusians Greentards and implementing any of the stupid bullshit that they are recommending.

The American people will never stand for letting the environmentalists impose their dream of rolling blackouts and perpetual power shortages on the country.

If nuclear and fracking are prohibited and the only way to supply what the American people need is to burn coal, then we'll be burning coal.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 03:32 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Hey look, I'm not completely ignorant. I know damn well that electricity is currently produced by burning fossil fuels for the most part and that burning coal to recharge a few hundred million batteries every day doesn't make a lot of sense. Which is why I said that "fuel efficiency and non-polluting automobiles are important goals to pursue."

Yes, but if we give in to the environmental movement, electric cars powered by coal power plants is exactly where we are headed.

These environmental zealots don't care about reality. They just demand electric cars for everyone without caring how clean the electrical source is, and if you stop and ask questions you are just obstructing their agenda. They refuse to consider that renewables alone might not generate enough power to satisfy demand.

The end result of a forced transfer to electric cars if renewables can't handle the load, and if nuclear is blocked and fracked natural gas is blocked, is going to be cars powered by coal-generated electricity.


hightor wrote:
I don't need you to tell me what you believe environmentalists "dream" either.

I *know* what their dream is. They want 100% renewables for power generation, and all cars to get their electricity from that. And if that's not enough to satisfy America's power needs, they want America to just go without.
oralloy
 
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Sun 4 Jun, 2017 03:35 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
Of course the attacks are "ongoing." Have been for years, and will be for years to come, given the Limeys' lack of action to eliminate these terrorists. They just invite more and more in, that's all.

I wonder if the foreign media is more interested in covering the attacks or throwing a tantrum about Trump.

I gather Trump heard about the attacks from the Drudge Report and then tweeted about how it would be good to keep such attackers out of Western countries so they can't harm people.

The foreign media (to be fair, I've not paid any attention to how the US media is covering the story) apparently deems it inappropriate for Trump to have gotten news from the Drudge Report, which they called a conservative website. (I always thought Drudge was more like a "TMZ for politicians" than a website with political leanings.) And they are just plain outright appalled that Trump would suggest that the West needs to try to prevent killers like this from entering our countries to begin with.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 03:37 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
You couldn't leave well enough alone, could you. You had to drag your binary obsession into the argument. It has nothing to do with "geo-justice", or colonialist guilt, or the "left".

The environmentalists have made it pretty clear that it is in fact their goal to use global warming treaties to transfer wealth from the US to impoverished countries.


hightor wrote:
The point is that it is unrealistic to expect the poorest countries with the most rapidly expanding populations to cope with disruption of what is already very unsteady economic growth.

How would it harm these countries to skip the coal burning phase and go directly to renewable power? Seems just as easy to build windmills in those countries as it is to build coal power plants.
hightor
 
  3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 04:10 am
@oralloy,
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Yes, but if we give in to the environmental movement, electric cars powered by coal power plants is exactly where we are headed.

Sure, if we don't do anything else other than mandate electric vehicles. Obviously a multi-pronged approach is required.
Quote:
The end result of a forced transfer to electric cars if renewables can't handle the load, and if nuclear is blocked and fracked natural gas is blocked, is going to be cars powered by coal-generated electricity.

That would be short-sighted — stupid, even — but the market doesn't work that way.
Quote:

I *know* what their dream is.

Ah, the Omniscient One!
Quote:
They want 100% renewables for power generation, and all cars to get their electricity from that.

Some might, but certainly not all. Some only call for stricter controls on tailpipe emissions, others look to the development of alternative fuels. Personally, I'd like to see the true cost of waste management built into the model of industrial production. And I think all environmentally-concerned people support applied research to deal with current problems and head off future ones.
hightor
 
  3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 04:15 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
The environmentalists have made it pretty clear that it is in fact their goal to use global warming treaties to transfer wealth from the US to impoverished countries.

Citation? "Environmentalists" is a pretty all-encompassing term. This sounds more ideology-driven than environment-driven to me.
Quote:
Seems just as easy to build windmills in those countries as it is to build coal power plants.

It isn't.
Olivier5
 
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Sun 4 Jun, 2017 04:24 am
http://www.courrierinternational.com/sites/ci_master/files/styles/image_original_765/public/assets/images/p_14_-_tom.jpg?itok=peiwTrSu
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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 04:46 am
http://rodmartin.org/utter-complete-total-fraud-wind-power/
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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 04:51 am
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layman
 
  -1  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 05:17 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18835600_702820286589434_1289812654989821384_n.jpg?oh=9d46fed6304612e47acd192784fa8062&oe=59AE49C2


Hahahahahahaha! That bitch has been chompin the cheddar, BIGTIME, eh? Whatta cheese-eatin, limberger-lovin skank.

What'd I tellya about these muslim-lovin, science-denyin "progressives," eh,Walt?

Pray for the victims (THE MUSLIMS)

Withdrawing from the scam-ass Paris accords MADE them do it!

Oh, yeah, that and repealing Obamacare (as if muslims in London would give a rat's ass---but of course they would run over people, butchered them with machetes, etc., because of that).

Stone-cold crazy Maxine must be sharpening up her butcher knife right now, eh?
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revelette1
 
  3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 07:01 am
@layman,
Quote:
Are Bobbies on the beat even allowed to carry guns in Britain? I know they never used to.


Quote:
At least seven people have been killed and 48 injured after three attackers drove a van into crowds on London Bridge and then went on a stabbing rampage in nearby Borough Market.

Police said armed officers shot dead all three attackers within minutes of receiving reports of the terrorist attack unfolding in central London. The three men were wearing suicide bomb vests that were later confirmed to be fakes.

Cressida Dick, the Metropolitan police commissioner, said on Sunday morning the incident was under control. “We believe there were three attackers and we believe they are dead,” she said.

She was asked: “Do you know the identity of the attackers” and replied: “I don’t.”


The Guardian

If you are really interested in updates and not just wanting to make untasteful uninformed remarks Go Here
snood
 
  4  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 07:11 am
@gungasnake,
Bullshit. Snopes took care of this goofy claim...

Claim: A single eruption from a volcano puts 10,000 times more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than all of human activity has throughout history.
Rating: False
http://static.snopes.com/app/themes/snopes-theme/dist/images/det-red.gif

Partial Explanation - See more at http://www.snopes.com/volcano-carbon-emissions/:
There is no question that very large volcanic eruptions can inject significant amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. The 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens vented approximately 10 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere in only 9 hours.

However, it currently takes humanity only 2.5 hours to put out the same amount. While large explosive eruptions like this are rare and only occur globally every 10 years or so, humanity’s emissions are ceaseless and increasing every year.
 

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