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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 07:39 am
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/06/london-citizens-throw-chairs-terrorists-unarmed-police-ran-away/
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 07:41 am
@snood,
Snopes is not a fair or unbiased source for anything, they are another arm of the DNC.
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:22 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Say goodbye to the power of the Democrat party. Not sure if it will mean the same thing for the Republicans.

Politics in America is on the cusp of change.


Quote:
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will headline a major progressive conference later this spring that aims to galvanize the resistance to President Donald Trump into a larger movement for a just world.

Not quite sure how you imagine your dream being realized through this conference.

About a week ago, you said here that almost all media is owned by one person. That's false and it is easy to show it as false. But I'm curious as to what notion is in your noggin here and the source(s) you relied on to conclude it so.

Could you please clarify?
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:23 am
@revelette1,
Please don't quote that cretin. I have him on ignore, at a time like this I don't want to hear him relishing the death of innocents or posting a load of ignorant bigotry. He may not have any humanity but you do, please don't insult the victims by quoting that creep.

Why bother correcting him anyway his sort aren't remotely interested in the truth, never have been.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:28 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
Are Bobbies on the beat even allowed to carry guns in Britain? I know they never used to.

Patrol officers are still not allowed to carry guns. But they have what an American would call SWAT teams on standby ready to deploy if called upon. And these are just as heavily armed as any American SWAT team.


layman wrote:
I wonder if they'll raise the threat level back up? Probably not.

Probably not. They only raised the threat level in the Manchester incident when they concluded that they had an active terrorist cell with a bomb factory. Then they lowered it when they concluded that they had arrested everyone that they needed to.

If they deem yesterday's attack to be three guys acting on their own, I suspect they will keep the threat level the same as what it already is.
georgeob1
 
  1  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:28 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

About a week ago, you said here that almost all media is owned by one person. That's false and it is easy to show it as false. But I'm curious as to what notion is in your noggin here and the source(s) you relied on to conclude it so.

Could you please clarify?

Perhaps she had been reading your propaganda about Sinclair Media. She may also de deficient in recognizing your role as schoolmaster here.
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:34 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Those divisions did not happen by themselves. Republican lawmakers were moved along by a campaign carefully crafted by fossil fuel industry players, most notably Charles D. and David H. Koch, the Kansas-based billionaires who run a chain of refineries (which can process 600,000 barrels of crude oil per day) as well as a subsidiary that owns or operates 4,000 miles of pipelines that move crude oil.

I see you and Walter both cited this NYT piece which saves me the trouble. It's a very good piece and everyone should read it. I'll just note another passage re the shift within the GOP and among conservatives from the prior rational position to the present extremism and anti-science posture:
Quote:
‘The Turning Point’

It was called the “No Climate Tax” pledge, drafted by a new group called Americans for Prosperity that was funded by the Koch brothers. Its single sentence read: “I will oppose any legislation relating to climate change that includes a net increase in government revenue.” Representative Jim Jordan, Republican of Ohio, was the first member of Congress to sign it in July 2008.

...With the help of a small army of oil-industry-funded academics like Wei-Hock Soon of Harvard Smithsonian and think tanks like the Competitive Enterprise Institute, they had been working to discredit academics and government climate change scientists. The lawyer and conservative activist Chris Horner, whose legal clients have included the coal industry, gathered documents through the Freedom of Information Act to try to embarrass and further undermine the climate change research.

Myron Ebell, a senior fellow with the Competitive Enterprise Institute, worked behind the scenes to make sure Republican offices in Congress knew about Mr. Horner’s work — although at the time, many viewed Mr. Ebell skeptically, as an extremist pushing out-of-touch views.
LINK
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layman
 
  -1  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:35 am
@revelette1,
Quote:
If you are really interested in updates and not just wanting to make untasteful uninformed remarks Go Here


Nice try, cheese-eater.

I guess you missed my post where the witnesses said that the cops "on the beat" were helpless against the attackers, eh? All they did was tell everyone to run.

And you probably missed this post, made after mine.

Quote:
LONDON CITIZENS Had to THROW CHAIRS at Terrorists Because UNARMED POLICE RAN AWAY

Guardian reporter Lisa O’Carroll is at Borough Market, where she says multiple stabbings have been reported:

Witnesses said they saw two men stabbing people outside the well-known Roast restaurant in Borough market. A chef from the nearby Fish restaurant said: “I saw two guys with big knives downstairs outside Roast. They were stabbing people. The police were running away, they were community police. They were normal officers, they were running away.


If you want to keep up, rather than just spouting falsehoods stemming from your ideology, try reading some posts other than you own, eh, Rev?
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:38 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
oralloy wrote:
The end result of a forced transfer to electric cars if renewables can't handle the load, and if nuclear is blocked and fracked natural gas is blocked, is going to be cars powered by coal-generated electricity.

That would be short-sighted — stupid, even — but the market doesn't work that way.

If the environmentalists succeed in blocking all the other ways of providing enough power to meet demand, I think the market would see to it that demand was met using coal.


hightor wrote:
Ah, the Omniscient One!

No omniscience required. All you need to do is argue with them on messageboards. They'll tell you what their agenda is.


hightor wrote:
Some only call for stricter controls on tailpipe emissions, others look to the development of alternative fuels.

Personally I like the idea of plugin hybrids. When gas is cheap you can use gas (and use it efficiently). When gas is expensive you can use electricity. When gas is cheap again you can unplug the car and go back to gas.


hightor wrote:
Personally, I'd like to see the true cost of waste management built into the model of industrial production.

I bet you and I could come to an agreement if we were negotiating environmental policy.

But I also bet the environmentalists would denounce you as a pro-pollution heretic.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:43 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Citation?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/02/05/in-their-own-words-climate-alarmists-debunk-their-science/

Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), then representing the Clinton-Gore administration as U.S undersecretary of state for global issues: "We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy."

Former Canadian Minister of the Environment: "No matter if the science of global warming is all phony…climate change [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world."

(page 2)
IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer: "…one has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth..."

Or just talk to one of the climate change zealots on a messageboard. They tend to make it clear that they are after redistribution of wealth.


hightor wrote:
This sounds more ideology-driven than environment-driven to me.

The "environmental" movement is more ideology-driven than environment-driven.


hightor wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Seems just as easy to build windmills in those countries as it is to build coal power plants.

It isn't.

I don't see why. Is there something about poor countries that makes wind unusable?
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:45 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
Snopes is not a fair or unbiased source for anything, they are another arm of the DNC.

Indeed. Snopes has lied more than once to try to cover up Obama's and Hillary's opposition to the Second Amendment.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:50 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Patrol officers are still not allowed to carry guns. But they have what an American would call SWAT teams on standby ready to deploy if called upon. And these are just as heavily armed as any American SWAT team.
Police officers within the Police Service of Northern Ireland are routinely armed as are police officers of the Ministry of Defence Police and the Civil Nuclear Constabulary.

Beside the Authorised Firearms Officers (not all comparable to SWAT teams in all constabularies, there are additional Specialist Firearms Officers, who are kind of similar to SWAT teams.
layman
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
So you're agreeing with what he said, eh, Walt?

From the tone of it, one might get the impression that you are trying to somehow refute him.
blatham
 
  3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:57 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Perhaps she had been reading your propaganda about Sinclair Media. She may also de deficient in recognizing your role as schoolmaster here.
That's a bit insulting to suggest she might have missed my schoolmasterliness. But just in case you have this right, let me demonstrate the thing once more.

"Propaganda" doesn't mean what you think it means. I've written perhaps a half dozen posts on Sinclair. Please isolate anything I wrote or cited in them which was not factual or which was a fallacious claim unwarranted by the factual material.

PS...and in this instance, because of the difficulty level of this assignment, I will forgive spelling and punctuation errors when I grade your response.
layman
 
  -1  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:57 am
@layman,
Quote:
They were stabbing people. The police were running away, they were community police. They were normal officers, they were running away.


There's not an American cop in the whole country who would run if he saw someone getting stabbed to death. I'm sure the Limeys are happy to be "protected" by these lame-ass badge-polishers, eh?

No surprise that English cop are cheese-eating, cowardly candyasses, eh?

I mean, like, what Limey aint?
layman
 
  -1  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 08:58 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

"Propaganda" doesn't mean what you think it means.


Wrong, Blather.

It doesn't mean what YOU think it does.

The definition has even been posted in this thread, but we all know that you aint too damn quick on the uptake, eh?
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blatham
 
  3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 09:07 am
From the D o D report on security implications of climate change
Quote:
...The report finds that climate change is a security risk, Pentagon officials said, because it degrades living conditions, human security and the ability of governments to meet the basic needs of their populations. Communities and states that already are fragile and have limited resources are significantly more vulnerable to disruption and far less likely to respond effectively and be resilient to new challenges, they added.

“The Department of Defense's primary responsibility is to protect national security interests around the world,” officials said in a news release announcing the report’s submission. “This involves considering all aspects of the global security environment and planning appropriately for potential contingencies and the possibility of unexpected developments both in the near and the longer terms.

“It is in this context,” they continued, “that the department must consider the effects of climate change -- such as sea level rise, shifting climate zones and more frequent and intense severe weather events -- and how these effects could impact national security.”
D o D press release Here
Hard to imagine these boys and girls in the Pentagon have been captured by the tree-huggers. If true, more generals would have pink hair.
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georgeob1
 
  -1  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 09:26 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

"Propaganda" doesn't mean what you think it means. I've written perhaps a half dozen posts on Sinclair. Please isolate anything I wrote or cited in them which was not factual or which was a fallacious claim unwarranted by the factual material.
I suspect we both know and understand the definition of the word, and we have discussed this point previously.

I have no desire to look up your posts on Sinclair, or to complete your presumptuous "assignment". All of these posts were about the activities of the Sinclair Broadcast company in buying other radio stations and providing them selected materials for broadcast .

These are, of course, the normal actions of any growing media company of all types including radio, TV, cable and print. You put it all in the context of a supposed conservative conspiracy that is unique to that zone in the political spectrum, and did so without any description or acknowledgment of comparable media organizations with different perspectives. It was propaganda, and rather superficial and transparent stuff to boot.

I would have a hard time believing that even you would seriously count that biased stuff as objective scholarship.

camlok
 
  -3  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 09:35 am
@layman,
Like the brave Americans who bomb vilagers from 35,000 feet, machine gun men women and children, old folks into prepared dug ditches, napalm children, "shake and bake" [US trademarked] innocents with phosphorus bombs, spread depleted uranium to poison generations, Agent Orange, on and on with the evil ,yeah you guys pointing fingers is a real hoot!

And you'll flee from this too, layman, coward that YOU are.
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Jun, 2017 09:37 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

I would have a hard time believing that even you would seriously count that biased stuff as objective scholarship.


Really? I don't.
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