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@layman,

You have to bear in mind that Blatham is a Canadian and that means he only believes some things that Russia claims to be true.

So, if Russia says they have something of Trump or a family member it MUST be true,
If Russia says they didn't collude with Trump, obviously Russia is lying.

It's part and parcel of being a hypocritical liberal Canadian.

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@McGentrix,

That is the nuttiest most illogical assessment I've ever heard, McGentrix. I think that you actually once described yourself as a scientist. I guess you thought it would play well with a layman/guijohn/... .

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I think Trump may have been the first President to joyfully SING the national anthem at Arlington on Memorial Day.

It's like someone challenged him to be stupider or more tone deaf than George W. Bush and he was like "Okay. Hold my beer." What an Idiot!

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@layman,

layman wrote:

If the U.S. wasn't so saturated with commie-ass, cheese-eating "citizens" who hate this county, and condemn it at every conceivable opportunity, I would conclude that you're an agent of some foreign government, Cammie-boy.

But, as it stands, it's just anybody's guess where you hail from.

Even so, I'm convinced that you are some filthy piece of Eurotrash.

He's from the U.S. He would have you believe he's not so he can find fault with the rest of us while pretending to be disassociated from us...typical disengenuous low life liberal.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

It may be the case that thorough investigations do not find compelling evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.

But one thing we do already know is that the Russians put in a lot of effort to manipulate the last election. That Republicans are working so hard to obstruct investigations into that aspect is an incontrovertible piece of evidence demonstrating that party's level of moral corruption.

Wrong on two points...they didn't manipulate the election and there is no proof of obstruction.

Typical leftist fake news.

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@snood,

snood wrote:

In a nutshell. If there's no fire why do they work so hard at denying there's even smoke?

Oh there is definitely a fire...it's the left on fire to derail his presidency at any cost including fake news...and that requires a big ******* hose to put out. Never let a lie stand...never.

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@giujohn,

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Never let a lie stand...never.

More incredibly stunning hypocrisy. It's likely not even noticed by Snood, layman, george, max, Finn, ... .

Do you happen to remember the Bush/Cheney lies, guijohn? We could a brief flashback to remember all the incredible number of lies from the US government that you have in your time, not only let stand, you actively supported and still support.

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@giujohn,

Why are you two such cowards?

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@jcboy,

jcboy wrote:

I think Trump may have been the first President to joyfully SING the national anthem at Arlington on Memorial Day.

It's like someone challenged him to be stupider or more tone deaf than George W. Bush and he was like "Okay. Hold my beer." What an Idiot!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjI3EakOy-s[/youtube]

A president "joyfully" sings our national anthem and he is criticised...this boys and girls is a glaring example of why the left will NEVER regain political power in this county. It is this sickening display of anti-american unpatriotic liberal hatred for this county that they seek to instill in the minds of the unintelligent uninformed ignorant masses and illegal imigrants in hopes of increasing their voting base. They are parasidic vermin, well deserving of decent peoples scorn and distain. They need to be wiped clean from society and their thinking condemned at every opportunity. They are human garbage.

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@giujohn,

Why so much anger but you express none about the lying, guijohn? Right after you stated that lies should never ever be tolerated.

Don't you think that that is hypocritical?

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demoperv humor....

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/335660-kathy-griffin-beheads-trump-in-gory-photo

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Virginia has found 5 thousand illegal registered voters and thousands who voted...just think how many there were in lala land in the left coast.

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@layman,

layman wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

My comments weren't directed to you.

Perhaps I should have written "it's easy for some.."

Well, OK, Finn. Truth be told, I didn't really think they were. That was just a rhetorical ploy designed to highlight the real objection I had to your post:

Although the points you make are valid, and well-articulated, they strike me as an irrelevant red herring with respect to this particular course of action.

Obviously I don't agree.

I think it's important to draw the distinction, in my mind, between the Obama Administration adopting a page from prior presidents' playbooks in opting to use dirt bags as proxies, providing they remained focus on the target, and continuing to employ them once it became clear they had decided to target us too.

Credit or quarter is rarely given in this forum, but I try to be consistent in thought and argument. I couldn't feel comfortable accusing others of hysterical criticism of every single word and deed of someone the sake of partisanship alone if I did the same myself.

Like I wrote, I don't know if getting in bed with ISIS for any reason was a wise call (especially since they knew how it worked out with al-Qaida in Afghanistan), but I'm not going to be a hypocrite and condemn dirty dancing with the devil under any circumstances because of the immorality of the devil.

But it's all good. I enjoy your contributions here but I won't lose any sleep if you think I'm trading in irrelevancy and red herrings.

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@blatham,

Precisely how are the Republicans working so hard to obstruct investigations into the Russian's attempts to manipulate the 2016 election?

Prominent Republicans, including the chairs of the investigating committees and sub-committees have all acknowledged the efforts took place. Is refusal to blindly accept that they succeeded constitute obstruction in your mind?

The Democrats started out assuming that the Russians won Trump the presidency and have been working very hard, ever since, to prove that assumption; littering the political landscape with wild claims and innuendo, but I suppose that's simply evidence of rectitude, since we all know the assumption to be correct.

Sounds like you're preparing the field for the arrival of a bad outcome: no compelling evidence of collusion

Of course that phrase alone is intended to hedge your bet so that you can, at a later date, declare there was plenty of evidence found but none of it rose to the high standard of "compelling" and thus Mueller wasn't forced to indict and the House wasn't forced to impeach. I fully expect a post from you somewhere down the line where you indict the Republicans for moral corruption based on the fact that they refused to do the right thing in the face of evidence that was only slight less than compelling, because, after all, morally upright people don't wait, until they have no other choice, before they do the right thing.

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@snood,

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In a nutshell. If there's no fire why do they work so hard at denying there's even smoke?

We do know the answer to that question. Power, so as to implement their ideological goals.

But when the means to the ideological ends are so marked by the corruption of principles, that gives us a good measure of whether the ideological ends are corrupt as well. Voter suppression across red states is one more piece of evidence.

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@jcboy,

He sang and did some kind of dopey dance sway move, I think he is bored with the ceremonies and does stupid and disrespectful stunts to make it more interesting for him. He could give a good god damn what anybody thinks, just as long as he's not ignored. The only thing better than being feted in Saudi and Israel being treated like a conquering hero was his time in Europe where he could act like a man who never left his small village in a pathetic move to tell Europe he doesn't care. They got a different message, they think he is a hamhanded clueless embarrassment to the United States.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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don't know if getting in bed with ISIS for any reason was a wise call (especially since they knew how it worked out with al-Qaida in Afghanistan), but I'm not going to be a hypocrite and condemn dirty dancing with the devil under any circumstances because of the immorality of the devil.

1. Like I said, morality is not the issue here. You're free to discuss morality all day long if that's a subject you enjoy, but nobody that I've seen (other than you, of course) has brought up that issue in connection with this newly confirmed information.

2. If I condemn the Manchester attack, I don't see why I'm a "hypocrite" if I don't also simultaneously recite an endless litany of indian villages we wiped out, etc. I prefer to point out hypocrisy when I actually see it, rather than inferring it without basis and then condemning it.

3. Don't know if it was "wise?" Seriously? Training and arming large groups that are KNOWN to be of the extreme islamic radical persuasion? We were working in with Al Qada in Syria too. Happen to recall 9/11? Happen to recall the thousands of people (mainly other muslims) killed via suicide attacks by such fanatics? Happen to recall their frequently announced devotion to destroying the west?

I can only see all this as recklessly stupid, at best. Given that, it's hard to totally dismiss the notion that Obama may actually have desired the establishment of the rogue "caliphate" that was predicted (together with the prediction that Iraq would be severely threatened by it). He has frequently expressed his extreme "sympathy" with the "muslim cause."

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@glitterbag,

Let me see if I have this straight...the President is disrespectful because he sang the national anthem.

You liberals are a piece if work.

If Trump found a cure for cancer tommorow you bitch he was not serious about addressing the over population problem.

When you looney libitards complain about bullshit like this it's illustrative of just how unreasonable you argument is. No one with half a brain would ever take you seriously...that's why you all will continue to be losers and marginalized. And we can be thankful for that.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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Precisely how are the Republicans working so hard to obstruct investigations into the Russian's attempts to manipulate the 2016 election?

Quote:

House Republicans blocked a vote Wednesday on legislation to create an independent commission to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election.

USAToday And there are perhaps a handful of Republicans recommending an independent investigation.

At the House Intel Committee hearing, each one of the GOP members sought to downplay or misdirect in their questioning of Brennan. Did you, Brennan, see clear evidence of collusion? Are you, Brennan, concerned about these illegal leaks? I don't think there was a single question to him regarding
Russian manipulation.

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The Democrats started out assuming that the Russians won Trump the presidency and have been working very hard, ever since, to prove that assumption

That is the false narrative being pushed and you bought it. Following the election, there was no such consensus in evidence either from Dem politicos or in media analysis. If any factor was considered determinative, it was Comey's actions. Nor is there any such consensus now on the left as to why Trump won. As the election was so close, it's obviously possible that had Russia not intervened as it did, the election would have turned out differently. But there's no consensus that this is so.

If Mueller and others fail to find conclusive evidence of collusion, then that's where the matter has to be left, outside of further revelations. But collusion is only one aspect here that's important.

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@glitterbag,

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they think he is a hamhanded clueless embarrassment to the United States.

The same notion is held broadly here in Canada. And one suspects everywhere else as well. Because he is exactly that and it is only the dwindling minority of partisan conservative loyalists who, somehow, don't get it.

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