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@layman,

prexcisely the same applies in a republic, layman. geez.

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@camlok,

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What is it you think you're "correcting," I wonder? Duh.

He corrected you, layman,

Nice try, cheese-eater. Although he quoted my post, I didn't say a word in it. Thomas Jefferson did.

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@layman,

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BTW, calling a form of government a "constitutional democracy" doesn't really say ****. The nature of such a government would strictly depend on the contents of its constitution.

Whoa, now you are into constitutional rocket science!

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@layman,

So lame, layman. You know squat about virtually everything you pretend to pontificate upon. But even when you are shown you double down on your ignorance.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

prexcisely the same applies in a republic, layman. geez.

Yeah, so? How is that relevant to anything said? Do you actually think that you are aware of things that Jefferson wasn't?

As I've said, before, Jack, your anxiousness to say something, anything, that you fervently believe seems to prevent you from even understanding the topic being discussed.

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@layman,

You're fairly good at doublespeak, layman. You must have got your merit badge from whatever nutty right wing website it is that supplies you with your memes.

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@layman,

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BTW, calling a form of government a "constitutional democracy" doesn't really say ****.

It describes the USA, roughly, in a manner of speaking, at least in what the US pretends to be.

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@layman,

once again, pot calling the kettle black, laypot/ Jefferson had very very few examples of either republics or democracies to draw on. His argument was mainly theoretical, divorced form any actual case history. In this casehe apparently never considered the possibility of a constitutional democracy existing. Many do today. Jefferson was limited.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Jefferson had very very few examples of either republics or democracies to draw on.... In this casehe apparently never considered the possibility of a constitutional democracy existing. Many do today. Jefferson was limited.

Jesus, the hubris here is astounding. Not to mention the massive error in logical inference.

I quote ONE sentence from Jefferson, addressing ONLY ONE topic (pure democracy), and you actually think that tells you what be both knew and thought about every other form of government.

On top of everything else, it displays your woeful lack of knowledge about American history, and the thoughts/writings of Jefferson.

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@layman,

Your scrambling and misdirection and pitiful whimpering is what is here astounding!

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

layman quoting Thomas Jefferson

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“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” (Thomas Jefferson)

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Two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

That's why even us little states get two senators.

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@layman,

You freally are playing the faux naif tonight. Jefferson really didn't have examples to draw on, because the FF were trying something new. You guys think "pure democracy" is the only kind there is. It isn't. Just as "pure republics", which are just ass susceptible to miscarriages of justice are not the only form possible, which is why you guys always add "constitutional" to "republic". Precisely the same applies to "constitutional"and "democracy". Yes, Jefferson got that wrong. He wasn't some tin idol.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

You freally are playing the faux naif tonight. Jefferson really didn't have examples to draw on, because the FF were trying something new. You guys think "pure democracy" is the only kind there is. It isn't. Just as "pure republics", which are just ass susceptible to miscarriages of justice are not the only form possible, which is why you guys always add "constitutional" to "republic". Precisely the same applies to "constitutional"and "democracy". Yes, Jefferson got that wrong. He wasn't some tin idol.

This is too ridiculous for comment. I'll defer to something Abe Lincoln done said (paraphrasing):

"More better to keep your sorry-ass mouth plumb shut, and look like a damn fool, that to open up that cheese-eating hole and prove it."

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@layman,

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This is too ridiculous for comment. I'll defer to something Abe Lincoln done said (paraphrasing):

What a sorry display of shuckin' and jivin' dishonesty you are, layman. You do your conservative cohorts proud.

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@camlok,

You can take a boy out of the short bus, but you can't take the short bus outta the boy.

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@layman,

Abe Lincoln also provided what is often called a definition of democracy "Government of the people by the people, for the people." That's what he thought American government was (or at least should be). Nothing in there about "mob rule". The uber rightz who try to make it so are flat wrong. So are you. It's constitutional democracy that we have. Your "pure democracy" meme DOES NOT APPLY.

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@layman,

Your avoidance of the issue you raised is noted. You don't possess the necessary honesty to just man up and admit you don't know what you are talking about.

You've got your dishonesty going full throttle on at least two fronts.

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“The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.” (Winston Churchill)

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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard." (H. L. Mencken)

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@layman,

Winston has described you, guijohn, ... perfectly.

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