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Are the presidential election results real? Or simply a simulation?

 
 
Builder
 
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Reply Thu 29 Dec, 2016 11:43 pm
@oristarA,
LOL. Wikileaks has already debunked this.

Nobody has presented any evidence of anything substantial to date.

Putin is exposing the US and Saudi support for ISIL. Even the Turks are admitting to it.

This is a last-dash effort to obfuscate from his biggest mistake (apart from invading Libya).

Better to exit, stage left, with what little pride he has left, than to instigate more terror.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 30 Dec, 2016 11:14 am
@oristarA,
Per the usual methods, Obama acts on his own and uses another EO/EA to enforce his will and views. I have a video for you because this will be your reaction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymrBzgssSY8
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 30 Dec, 2016 10:40 pm
@Builder,
Wikileaks? You mean the communist hacker website. Who in their right mind would believe them. Oh, I forgot, your a conservative dupe.
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 30 Dec, 2016 11:06 pm
@RABEL222,
I'm what you people call a socialist progressive.

Though I lean heavily towards an anarchical agenda, and favour a people's economic transition to a new currency not in the hands of corporate pirates.

I guess you're in that group that believes the CIA is honest with the American people. So you're what we call a laughable gullible dupe.

You would have cheered on wikileaks when they were exposing the Bush/Cheney cabal's machinations during their reign of terror.

That makes you both a gullible dupe, and a political hypocrite. Nice going.

RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2017 05:01 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
You would have cheered on wikileaks when they were exposing the Bush/Cheney cabal's machinations during their reign of terror.
That makes you both a gullible dupe, and a political hypocrite. Nice going.


I'll forgive you for this portian of your post. You werent here when Bush43 was running for office so dont realize that he and tRump were both of a kind. Liars. Both of who I hate with my whole heart because of the damage the one did and the present one is going to do to the U S. And you have been here long enough to know that I dont trust the CIA or the FBI or Homeland Security any farther than I can throw the white house. What was that you said about my being a hypocrite? Maybe you should check your own character.
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2017 05:09 pm
@oristarA,
I am reading all this a bit late, but thanks for that link re Kathleen Parker at Washington Post, oristar.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2017 09:58 am
Cult Of Personality ‏@ResemblingACult 4h
@realDonaldTrump

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1udvU5XgAEZn_b.jpg

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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2017 08:14 pm
@RABEL222,
Do you think Builder is 6 years old?
Builder
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2017 01:36 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
By the responses I'm getting, I'd assume geriatric dementia is setting in.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2017 10:46 pm
@Builder,
Its a possibility. But I prefer to think that your nonresponse means you dident have any way to prove me wrong.
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giujohn
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jan, 2017 09:33 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

By the responses I'm getting, I'd assume geriatric dementia is setting in.


Ooh be careful...Rabell has the moderators in his back pocket and if you mention his senility you will be suspended. Conversely, he is allowed to call you names...I guess they are making allowances cause he doesn't remember doing it.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2017 09:52 am
Who would like to help find the original report of BBC?:

BBC: Multiple sources say Russians blackmailing Trump with sex tapes (update: UK leak source IDed)

Trump is cursing CNN:
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h
[email protected] is in a total meltdown with their FAKE NEWS because their ratings are tanking since election and their credibility will soon be gone!

Let us see how he will curse BBC.
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jan, 2017 01:23 am
The Congressional Resistance Grows as Dozens of House Members Boycott Trump’s Inauguration

More than 10 percent of House members have now announced they will protest rather than celebrate on Inauguration Day.
By John NicholsTwitterYESTERDAY 11:08 AM

The congressional boycott of Donald Trump’s inauguration has gone viral, as dozens of Democratic House members (the count hit 50 Tuesday afternoon) have now announced that will skip Friday’s swearing-in ceremony. Most of the dissenters have offered variations on the message that Congressional Progressive Caucus co-chair Raul Grijalva delivered on the floor of the House early last week:

My absence is not motivated by disrespect for the office or motivated by disrespect for the government that we have in this great democracy, but as an individual act—yes, of defiance, at the disrespect shown to millions and millions of Americans by this incoming administration and by the actions we are taking in this Congress.

“The majority of voters rejected Trump—they deserve respect,” said Grijalva in the January 13 announcement that he would skip Trump’s inauguration to march in Tucson with the purpose of “reaffirming and renewing this democracy.”

Trump’s goals are far less lofty.The president-elect just wants an Inauguration Day crowd that fosters fantasies of unity and popular support. Trump needs official acceptance to sustain the dubious claim that he has a mandate to govern.

With more than ten percent of House members declaring that they will not participate in the inaugural ceremonies, Trump is being denied the image of mass approval that he so desperately desires. House Democrats are steering energy and attention away from the inauguration and toward protests, which many of them will join, against a president who lost the popular vote but continues to promote extreme policies and nominees.

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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jan, 2017 10:23 am
@oristarA,
If the BBC story isn't "fake news" it's not news of any real value other than to anti-Trumpers.

Simply because there is more than one source (assuming there is, and that's a big assumption since the additional source(s) are not identified) doesn't mean the information in the dossier is true.

This story will be investigated ad nauseum and over the next four years, nonsense like this will be dripped into the public domain so that Trump's legitimacy remains in question...to some.

Considering how desperate so many powerful forces were to elect Clinton and defeat Trump, it's difficult to imagine the investigation has not already been exhausted. However, this won't put an end to the disinformation campaign.

Trump has always had to deliver on his promises. If he does, the campaign will grow weaker and weaker until it finally fades away into nothing but a stain on our political history.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jan, 2017 10:26 am
@oristarA,
Who the hell cares?

They are all from districts where the majority of voters think this is a great idea. None of these people are doing anything but serving their own political interests.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2017 01:47 am
@Finn dAbuzz,


More sources increase the possibility that the information in the dossier is true.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:


Simply because there is more than one source (assuming there is, and that's a big assumption since the additional source(s) are not identified) doesn't mean the information in the dossier is true.

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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2017 01:49 am
Tape shows Trump contradicting himself (again) on Putin meeting

Tuesday, January 17 - 6:35 PM Yahoo News - Michael Isikoff

President-elect Donald Trump told a radio interviewer in October 2015 that he had met Vladimir Putin "one time … a long time ago" and that he "got along with him great" — a statement that conflicts with his later denials during the campaign that he had ever met or spoken with the Russian president.

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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jan, 2017 12:18 am
Chinese People speak to American People:
Now it is your turn to experience, or to suffer, a Cultural Revolution:

Trump: The True New Maoist
Mao’s true heir is not Xi Jinping, but the new U.S. president.

By Kerry Brown
January 19, 2017

Picture a leader in charge of a political party whose other senior leaders hold him almost in as much contempt as he holds them. One who exults in contradictory statements and constant changes of posture and mind. Someone who has had multiple marriages, and a complex private life. A person who appeals to people’s fears, and whose prime approach often seems to stir up widespread upheaval and unrest.

That description is of Mao Zedong, but applies equally well to U.S. President-elect Donald Trump.

Mao’s style of leadership is said to be emulated by his current successor, Xi Jinping. But it is hard to imagine Mao making the kind of speech about the merits of globalization that China’s current leader just delivered at the elite economic summit in Davos. Actually, it is hard to imagine Mao making any speech anywhere outside of China, period.

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Paradoxically, the real heir to the spirit of Maoist politics sits these days not in Beijing, but several time zones away, in Washington. Trump’s tendency to speak directly to the public through Twitter and his own personal voice has eerie parallels with the way that Mao often subverted his own propagandists and state media, reaching above their heads to the people, whom Mao always claimed to stand with.

Then there is the exultation in contradictions for the sake of being contradictory. Mao, it is claimed, was influenced by the gnomic utterances of Daoism, with their waves of opposing statements mapping out a level of truth beyond the truth mostly known and striven for by humans. Trump simply seems immune to the empirical world that most people take as their starting place for understanding and enlightenment. For him, as for Mao, truth is negotiable, and more often than not something subservient to the political mood of the moment. Mao’s greatest, perhaps his only contribution to theoretical Marxism, was the 1930s essay, “On Contradictions.” “Contradictions,” he stated there, “are the essence of life.” It is hard to see Trump disagreeing.

Negotiating a new reality extends down even to approaches to the environment and natural world. Long before climate change became a worry, Mao Zedong showed a dismissive attitude toward the environment. According to Judith Shapiro’s study from over a decade ago, Mao was a firm anthropomorphist, looking at the world as a place to be struggled against, reshaped and adapted to humanity and their primacy. We don’t know if Trump has the same macho views, but he certainly places humans at the center of everything, and seems almost recklessly heedless of the impact of industrial and other human action on the natural world.

Then there is the delicate matter of attitudes toward the political system itself. Mao remained a revolutionary to his dying days. He regarded the “swamp” of bureaucracy and governance in Beijing as manifestations of the Communist Party becoming its own vested interest and simply working for itself. The Cultural Revolution began in 1966 was, among many other things, a vicious attack on the Party by one of its founding leaders and by far its most influential one. Mao would have regarded Trump’s contemporary version of an American-style Cultural Revolution as simply a poor shadow of how it should be done properly. But Mao would have had no trouble understanding the political purpose and the reasons behind what Trump has called “The Movement.” Trump’s attitude, to the PRC’s founder, would merely be sound Maoism.

Then finally there is the lifelong aversion that Mao had to intellectuals. From his days as a humble librarian at Peking University in the 1910s, Mao disliked scholars, and reserved particularly brutal treatment for those that even slightly opposed him. He would have given a mark of approval to the furious anger that Trump directs at those he regards as snooty elites in their ivory towers trying to question him.

Mao’s style of politics is talked of as being back in favor in China. But in truth, that is more a question of the surface style of Xi’s politics, rather than its substance. The current Chinese leadership would not want to wage the wars of class struggle, or set up the brutally antagonistic relationships with the outside world sponsored by the Chairman when he was alive. And they would rather relocate to the outer fringes of the solar system than follow his wholly discredited economics. Mao’s genius in messaging, in marrying traditional ways of thinking for Chinese with modernizing preoccupations, however, is something modern-day leaders clearly are attracted by. They like and try to emulate Mao the messenger, even while repudiating much of his message.

For Trump though, it seems that class struggle, fights between different parts of the bureaucracy, and a wholesale onslaught on the very culture of governance and administration in the United States is very much in the cards. Brutal attacks on the media, constant direct appeals to the public to support him in taking on the vested interests of the elite, and a policymaking ethos dominated by contradictions seems to be what America and the world can expect in the coming years. Chinese people, who had experience of this form of politics within living memory, can only stand by and nod with bewildered pity. They know where this story ends up.

The American people are about to find out.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jan, 2017 01:06 am
Donald J. Trump's Inaugural Address (or the pith of it):


Let the American Cultural Revolution begin! To MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

God bless you all.
God bless the United States of America.
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jan, 2017 01:12 am
Donald Trump: I was writing my inaugural address at the Winter White House:

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