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Are the presidential election results real? Or simply a simulation?

 
 
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2017 01:29 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

oristarA wrote:
"Interestingly, the phrase "high Crimes and Misdemeanors," which was drawn from English law, did not produce much debate; apparently the founders regarded it as a term of art. Crucially, the term "misdemeanor" did not mean a distinct set of crimes (as opposed to felony); it referred instead to bad acts, in the form of exceptionally serious public misconduct."

"...The Constitution allows impeachment of the president for large-scale abuse of the authority of his office, and also for obtaining his office by corrupt means."

The problem is, Trump isn't abusing the authority of his office, did not obtain his office by corrupt means, and did not commit any public misconduct.

And even if Trump did commit such an offense, he could simply point at Bill Clinton. There is no way that the Republicans will ever consent to remove a Republican president from office after the way the Democrats refused to remove Bill Clinton.


Already, he's abusing...

Quote:


Trump Is Abusing His Power

Feb 8, 2017 (Liberty News Daily)

......

Yoo, who now teaches law at the University of California-Berkeley, was a critic of Donald Trump during the presidential election. He has now written a New York Times op-ed column accusing President Trump of exceeding the constitutional powers of his office – a remarkable critique, coming from a legal scholar who supports an expansive view of presidential authority.

During his first weeks in office, Trump has repeatedly usurped powers reserved to other branches of the federal government, Yoo contends. Trump “should share [Alexander] Hamilton’s vision of an energetic president leading the executive branch in a unified direction, rather than viewing the government as the enemy,” Yoo continues. “He should realize that the Constitution channels the president toward protecting the nation from foreign threats, while cooperating with Congress on matters at home.”
Builder
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2017 05:53 am
@oristarA,
It's clearly an interesting time to be involved in the politics of the nation.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2017 11:49 am
@oristarA,
I wonder what this guys opinion was on Obama's abuses of Executive Power and his use of "usurped powers reserved to other branches of the federal government"...
camlok
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2017 11:56 am
@Baldimo,
I'd be interested in hearing you lay them out, but you have to understand that impeachment proceedings are not possible for Obama.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2017 12:35 pm
@camlok,
Quote:
I'd be interested in hearing you lay them out,

His EO/EA's on Immigration and the many he passed on gun control to name a few.

Quote:
but you have to understand that impeachment proceedings are not possible for Obama.

I never supported impeachment for Obama regardless of his actions, just as with Trump nothing he has done/did warranted impeachment. I didn't like a lot of the things Obama did but I wouldn't use my dislike of his policies as a reason to remove him from office, voted out yes, but not removed.
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camlok
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2017 12:49 pm
@oristarA,
Quote:
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Your three dots leave out a lot of highly pertinent information, oristarA.

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Torture Advocate, War Criminal: Trump Is Abusing His Power

Feb 8, 2017

As a legal adviser to President George W. Bush, John C. Yoo drafted a document called the “Bybee Memorandum” that provided a rationale for presidential approval of torture. A few years later, during a debate at Notre Dame University, Yoo claimed that the president can order his subordinates to crush a child’s genitals in order to extract information from his parents – if the president certified that doing so was in the interest of national security.

http://www.libertynewsdaily.com/blog-3587-Torture-Advocate,-War-Criminal:-Trump-Is-Abusing-His-Power
oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 23 Feb, 2017 10:20 pm
@camlok,
camlok wrote:

Quote:
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Your three dots leave out a lot of highly pertinent information, oristarA.

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Torture Advocate, War Criminal: Trump Is Abusing His Power

Feb 8, 2017

As a legal adviser to President George W. Bush, John C. Yoo drafted a document called the “Bybee Memorandum” that provided a rationale for presidential approval of torture. A few years later, during a debate at Notre Dame University, Yoo claimed that the president can order his subordinates to crush a child’s genitals in order to extract information from his parents – if the president certified that doing so was in the interest of national security.

http://www.libertynewsdaily.com/blog-3587-Torture-Advocate,-War-Criminal:-Trump-Is-Abusing-His-Power


I euphemised it by deliberately leaving that out.

Trump, a torture advocate? Yes.
A war criminal? Yes or Not? Not sure at this moment.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 25 Feb, 2017 08:41 am
@oristarA,



Trump's abuse of power is continuing:

Quote:
Democrats: WH contact with FBI an 'outrageous breach of the FBI's independence'

By Ashley Killough, CNN
February 25, 2017

...
"Political interference in the integrity of an FBI investigation into the conduct of White House officials is a grave abuse of power. The rule of law depends on the FBI's complete independence, free from political pressure from the targets of its investigations," she added.

...

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oristarA
 
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Reply Tue 28 Feb, 2017 02:27 am
@oristarA,



Trump's labeling the media as "the enemy of the American people" is an abuse of his power.

Bush Weighs In On Trump Presidency, Calling Press 'Indispensable To Democracy'

February 27, 20173:16 PM ET
by DON GONYEA




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oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2017 11:38 am
Voice of America (VOA), owned by the United States government "rebels" against President Trump:

Fact-Checking: Trump Takes Credit He Hasn't Earned

Last Updated: March 01, 2017 10:45 AM


Will Trump return the "salute" by labeling VOA as Fake News too?
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oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2017 11:50 am
It is so different:

Standing Ovation vs. Sitting Still:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5zUcBjVMAAYgRs.jpg
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oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2017 08:09 pm
No, Mr President. The media is the friend of American People, yet your "enemy".

Quote:
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 17, 2017
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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2017 12:04 am
Here Are Trump’s 5 Biggest Lies During The First 30 Minutes Of His Address To Congress

By Jason Easley on Tue, Feb 28th, 2017 at 9:44 pm (PoliticusUSA)

1). Trump said, “We have withdrawn the United States from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership.”

The Facts: via The Washington Post (August 16, 2016), “And his bid to ratify the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement, the centerpiece of a foreign-policy “pivot to Asia,” now appears dead on arrival thanks to grass-roots revolts in both parties.”

2). Trump said, “We have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a 5-year ban on lobbying by Executive Branch Officials – and a lifetime ban on becoming lobbyists for a foreign government.”

The Facts: via The Washington Post, “But his five-year ban on lobbying is less than advertised. Trump has originally promised to extend the ban to congressional officials, but he did not. Moreover, the five-year ban applies only to lobbying one’s former agency — not becoming a lobbyist. Moreover, Trump actually weakened some of the language from similar bans under Obama and George W. Bush, and reduced the level of transparency.”

3). Trump said, “My economic team is developing historic tax reform that will reduce the tax rate on our companies so they can compete and thrive anywhere and with anyone. At the same time, we will provide massive tax relief for the middle class.”

The Facts: via PoliticusUSA, “47% of Donald Trump’s proposed tax cuts go to the top one percent, but his tax plan will raise taxes on 26 million Americans who are part of 8.5 million low-income families.”

4). Trump said, “For that reason, we will soon begin the construction of a great wall along our southern border. It will be started ahead of schedule and, when finished, it will be a very effective weapon against drugs and crime.”

The Facts: via PoliticusUSA, A growing number of Republicans are refusing to pay for the wall. The wall has no funding and Mexico is refusing to pay.

5). Trump said, “We’ve saved taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars by bringing down the price of the fantastic new F-35 jet fighter, and will be saving billions more dollars on contracts all across our government.”

The Facts: via The Washington Post, “The Pentagon had announced cost reductions of roughly $600 million before Trump began meeting with Lockheed Martin’s chief executive.”

Link to the article
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oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2017 11:41 am
Reading it for fun. Or seriously, you decide:

Professional French Translator Calls Trump's Word Use "An Unprecedented and Depressing Headache"

Professional translator Bérengère Viennot said the poor quality of Trump's language reflects the poor quality of his thought.

WES WILLIAMSJAN 25, 2017 (The Daily BANTER)
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oristarA
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2017 07:19 am
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

oristarA wrote:


Right now Trump's tweet is:
Quote:
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 10h10 hours ago
SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!


Yes Mr President. We will see your another defeat at court. Good day and good night.


Wanna bet? Really do you?


Bet what? Mr President has been disappearing from the court. He's simply lost courage to appeal.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2017 10:16 am
Flag and Life: A Balance

http://heilongjiang.sinaimg.cn/2013/1023/U9503P1274DT20131023152125.jpg
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2017 07:16 am
See how Mr. Trump makes America increasingly insignificant rather than great:

Dan Rather:

"Cruel and unusual," the phrase rings in my head as I read the press reports of President Donald Trump's proposed budget.

But to even talk about it as a budget is to miss the point. It is not a budget. It is a philosophy, and one that may come as a surprise to many of the people who voted for Mr. Trump. They will hurt in real ways. Meanwhile it confirms the worst existential fears of those who see his presidency as a threat to the very being of the United States they know and love.

This is a man who made a lot of promises on the campaign about helping those struggling in society, about leading the United States to greatness in such things as fighting disease. If anyone had any doubt about the hollowness of his words, this philosophy is all the evidence one would need.

This is a philosophy that doesn't believe in helping the poor, rural or urban, or the power of diplomacy or the importance of science. It is a philosophy that doesn't want to protect the environment. It doesn't believe in the arts. This is about putting a noose around much of the United States federal government and hanging it until it shakes with life no more. In the name of reining in waste, it rains pain and suffering amongst the Americans who already are the most vulnerable. It must be remarked that many of these programs are really small budget items in the greater scheme of things, rounding errors in the federal budget. The purpose is to send a message, not to save money.

Rather than investing in what truly will make America great, this philosophy pounds its chest with false bravado. People will die because of this budget. People will suffer. Diseases will spread, and cures will not be found (really? slash science research?) Our nation will be darker and more dangerous. You know it's a philosophy because the budget has few details really in it. And here is where I see its saving grace.

This philosophy is not the United States I think a majority of Americans would recognize. I believe that we are not so cruel, so shortsighted, so dark. It's easy to rail against the federal government on the campaign stump, but cutting programs that people rely on, that is the kind of thing that can break through the fake news into reality very soon. We have already seen the mess that has become of the health care efforts.

This philosophy is no longer theoretical and it will be a rallying cry for a reverse philosophy. Those who champion an empathetic America, an America prepared for the challenges of the modern world, will have plenty of evidence to point to. Mr. Trump has already put many Republicans in Congress on a defensive footing, on Russia and on healthcare. Wait until the constituents start calling about how they won't be able to heat their homes in the winter or the agricultural programs that were slashed.

"The administration's budget isn't going to be the budget," Senator Marco Rubio told the Washington Post. "We do the budget here. The administration makes recommendations, but Congress does budgets." You can expect to hear a lot more of that kind of rhetoric.

Mr. Trump's philosophy is an opening salvo in a battle for the soul of America that is only beginning. This will be a battle fought trench by trench. But I think it is winnable and America will reconfirm a governing philosophy that is hopeful, compassionate, and wise about the role of government in making our world a safer, fairer, and more just place to live.

Source
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2017 08:15 am
@oristarA,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7FQDMHVwAA1eEK.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7GK8X0VwAAt5W1.jpg
oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:26 am
Donald Trump could reverse cuts to arts, poor and elderly if he stopped staying at Mar-a-Lago, figures show
Four services facing elimination under proposed cuts could be maintained at the cost of President's visits to private Florida resort over four years, figures show


Calculations show four programmes that face elimination - which tackle homelessness, unemployment among over-55s, participation in the arts and helping the poor access higher education - could be maintained at the cost of the President’s trips to his private Florida resort over the course of four years.

The services amount to a total of $597 million — just less than the $600 million security arrangements for the Mr Trump's Mar-a-Lago visits are estimated to cost the taxpayer over the course of his term.

The National Endowment for the Arts, which encourages participation in the arts ($152 million), the US Interagency Council on Homelessness ($4 million), an independent agency coordinating the federal government's efforts to reduce homelessness, the Senior Community Service Employment Program ($434 million), which has helped more than one million people 55 and older find jobs and the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars ($11 million), providing scholarships and fellowships in social sciences and humanities, are all facing the axe in Mr Trump's budget.

This amounts to a total of $597 million (£483 million). According to CBS News, the President spent every weekend of his first 33 days in office at the Palm Beach estate - for which security is estimated to have cost $10 million (£8.1 million).

American taxpayers must foot a bill of more than $3 million (£2.4 million) each time he travels there, rather than staying at the official presidential residence of the White House — amounting to $600 million over the four years.

The services are among hundreds of programmes and agencies the budget proposed would be eliminated to pave the way for a $54 billion (£44 billion) increase in defence spending.

The $1.15 trillion (£1 trillion) budget – titled 'America First: A Budget Blueprint to Make America Great Again' — which covered only discretionary, not mandatory, spending — also stated plans to slash funding for Meals on Wheels, a program that provides meals for the poor, elderly and veterans, as well as health care and nutrition for low-income women, infants and children.

Days after the proposals were announced, Mr Trump is to return to his lavish Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach this weekend, marking his fifth visit to the resort during the short period he's been serving the White House.

Mr Trump’s frequent visits to Mar-a-Lago stand in contrast to his pledges during the campaign. He told a reporter in 2015: “I would rarely leave the White House because there’s so much work to be done. I would not be a president who took vacations.

Source: INDEPENDENT
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camlok
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 02:47 pm
@oristarA,
You really are quite the researcher, oristarA. You get an A and a gold STAR.
 

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