I'm a "typical male?" <ROTFLMAO>
Yeah, Grand Duke, sounds like she's one of those posters that gets upset when we don't tell them what they want to hear. Apparently she wasn't really listening. <sigh>
Last time I checked, Eva had a vagina. Erm, that came out wrong...really wrong, but it goes to the point that Eva is hardly a 'typical male'. My apologies for using your vagina as a metaphor, Eva.
My vagina accepts your apology, Cav. But I am still thinking about it. :wink:
eva, i loved your post!
rexred, i understand your frustration. i think that porn can be detrimental in some relationships...and it would be a bummer in mine. hopefully the porn that others can enjoy is limited to ADULTS having their fun. i think that it is more constructive to focus on exploitation of young people, if one feels the need to have a "cause."
i live in downtown houston, where i see smut (mainly prostitution of teens) at all hours of the day. i saw an older guy driving around scoping the streets and his bumper sticker said "i love sluts!" he had a young girl with her packback riding shotgun. sad. i've seen lots of nuts cruising, but the bumper sticker was a first. disgusting.
i'm a fun loving conservative...one thing i've learned is that if you want to make a point, its best to try not to sound too judgemental while giving it. anyhow, i understand that you are a romantic, that's great. you'll probably make a nice mate one day!
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There is a fine line between fun and decadence. I am not against porn personally just the flagrant use thereof... but I am single also.
There are strip clubs cropping up in most suburban areas next to churches and schools thanks to the "fun" loving "liberals". These are the same people that think they have a monopoly on marriage and love while they hire strippers for bachelor parties and bridal showers and show up for the wedding the next day still drunk.
The suggestion that someone is out of sync or too prude because they should want their mate to love them and not the printed pixels on a piece of paper or media is understandable to me.
"There's just not enough love in the world" to quote Don Henley...
Porn is a viable excuse as to why. People forget their vows for instant gratification and do not realize that it is a vicious cycle that leads to an unquenchable fire and the loss of a true enduring love that is of substantially greater value.. Call me idealistic but I am a silly romantic and will always be, what can I say...
Find me one strip club open next to a church or a school and post a picture, an address or proof of some sort or back off. I never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life that didn't come out of the mouth of george bush.
cavfancier wrote:Last time I checked, Eva had a vagina. Erm, that came out wrong...really wrong, but it goes to the point that Eva is hardly a 'typical male'. My apologies for using your vagina as a metaphor, Eva.
disgusting liberal talk.....and Eva is a transgendered male?
Never fear, bear. I am 100% woman. And my vagina forgives you, too.
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Re: Am I crazy or is porn OK?
Grand Duke wrote:Unhappy Heart wrote:I dont know how to just delete the post, so I will delete the text instead. There is no help or advice to be found on this site... you all take the typical male attitude and discount the emotional pain that men can inflict.
Someone's in a big huff with A2K...
And why not? Her concerns didn't exactly get fair treatment here.
Eva
So this is about liberals & their values!
I was wondering why the topic was causing so much strange debate! Politics!
Yours, from the other side of the planet,
Olga
Eva wrote:Never fear, bear. I am 100% woman. And my vagina forgives you, too.
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I'm a Taurus thank you very much....
That's good to know, Bear. Actually it does make sense.
Msolga...I was not the one who brought up politics, RexRed did that. I was simply responding to his post, and I hope that issue is settled now. I didn't intend to offend Unhappy Heart, but she did ask us our opinion of porn (see title of thread), so I gave her my totally honest opinion. If she took offense to my comments, perhaps it was because I did not say what she wanted to hear. I can't help that.
Re: Am I crazy or is porn OK?
msolga wrote:Grand Duke wrote:Unhappy Heart wrote:I dont know how to just delete the post, so I will delete the text instead. There is no help or advice to be found on this site... you all take the typical male attitude and discount the emotional pain that men can inflict.
Someone's in a big huff with A2K...
And why not? Her concerns didn't exactly get fair treatment here.
Fair treatment of what? Deleting the text of the original question is just daft. Now I'll never know what she was asking. Something about a guy in her life who likes a lot of porn and she doesn't approve, if I had to guess. Like most things in this crazy world, porn is fine in moderation. If she was looking for "help or advice" and got a load of answers from men that didn't agree with what she wanted to hear (like Eva said I think) then why did she bother posting in the first place?
Can someone bring me up to speed as to the nature of her original question?
About what you'd expect, Grand Duke. Note that my response came before her deletion, and using some of the same terminology ("discount") so presumably she read it.
If I remember right, (there are such a lot of these!), her guy had a porn habit, she found out, he promised to stop, she found that he continued (proactively -- looking through his computer files or something). She was VERY upset.
The impression I had can be found in my post -- that the fact that she was so upset meant that there was a problem, no matter what one may think of porn, and that counselling may be the best approach.
Thanks for clearing it up for me, Sozobe. If she was so disappointed with the collective response, why didn't she come back and challenge some of the comments made, instead of acting like a kid. She must be deeply hurt by the position she finds herself in, but that's no excuse for not acting like an adult.
Perhaps I'm being harsh on her. I have never, and, by nature of my gender and personality, will never, be in her position, so I find it hard to empathise. I'm only trying to be harsh on her reaction here in A2K, and not on her reaction to her fella's porn addiction. I hope she finds some kind of solution, even if it is just by dumping her seedy man.
Thoughtful of you to include the fact that it's hard for you to empathise Duke. So many responses from men to these porn problems don't include that view.
I'm not sure why gender has anything to do with it. I don't understand the upset about porn either.
Every time I think I can figure out what the people who are upset by porn have in common, I'm proven wrong. First I thought, American. Nope. Then, gender. Nope. Then, age. Nope. Then, religion. Nope. Eva manages to disprove every dang theory I can come up with.
panzade wrote:Thoughtful of you to include the fact that it's hard for you to empathise Duke. So many responses from men to these porn problems don't include that view.
I sense sarcasm.... :wink:
Perhaps the fact that she was snooping through his things and his computer files made it hard to sumpathize with her. Just a thought.
I need to get some kind of lock on my system when "snooping" is mentioned. It can't be good for my blood pressure to read about that sort of thing.
What happened to "don't snoop. don't snitch." ?
Hopefully not sarcasm, Bear, but I'd like panzade to come back to us on that one.
ehBeth - I think gender has lots do to do with it, but not everything, which is why I added that my personality was also a factor. 95% of porn is made by men, features women, and is aimed at men. Why? Because it's more popular with men than it is with women. There are always exceptions to every rule, and there are enough women who watch "man's porn" with their men to prove this, but generally, I think that gender has a lot to do with people's reaction to porn.
And without knowing personally everyone involved in a debate such as this, generalisations are all we can really deal with.
