When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ? Part 2

You, perhaps???

Geebus, way to obfuscate, Blinkers.

Seems to be your strong point.

Government bureauracies of all types have many common traits, particularly at or near the political level. I don't count such experience as either particularly challenging or meaningful though I do recognize the familiar exaggerated sense of self importance that comes from shuffling papers near the bureaucratic barons. My references were to fairly close, long-term friends and to my own experience as chief accountable executive in large organizations - a lot more than "cocktail chatter".

I'll readily agree that you have likely gained valuable insights, but what that may have to do with the Clinton's decades long record of the misuse of public power for personal enrichment and the systematic destructions of relatively powerless people who have assused them of misdeeds, much less the web of lies and deceptions surrounding Hillary's tenure in the State Department, is something you have not made at all clear.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/07/24/fact-check-hillary-clinton-false-and-misleading-claims/87499416/

Fact check: Hillary Clinton's false and misleading claims

It's not surprising that the majority of Americans do not trust Hillary.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/can-hillary-clinton-overcome-her-trust-problem/2016/07/03/b12eeb52-3fd8-11e6-84e8-1580c7db5275_story.html

Hillary understands the risk of a lot of things. In January 2016, the Saudi government executed 47 people, including a prominent pacifist Shia cleric, who had been a leader of the 2011 Arab Spring in Yemen. Many of those executed were tortured during their detention and denied due process. Most were beheaded. This horrifies us when ISIS does it. Yet State Department spokesman John Kirby protested weakly, “We believe that diplomatic engagement and direct conversations remain essential in working through differences.”

Also in January 2016, Palestinian artist and poet Ashraf Fayadh, a Saudi citizen whose family is from Gaza, was sentenced to death by beheading. His alleged crimes: “apostasy,” or renouncing Islam, and photographing women. “Throughout this whole process,” Amnesty International UK found, “Ashraf was denied access to a lawyer – a clear violation of international human rights law.”

Both Saudi Arabia and the United States are parties to the Geneva Conventions, which define as grave breaches willful killing, willfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health, and torture or inhuman treatment. Grave breaches are considered war crimes. Also prohibited are “the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.

Saudi Arabia has engaged in war crimes, and the United States is aiding and abetting them by providing the Saudis with military assistance. In September 2015, Saudi aircraft killed 135 wedding celebrants in Yemen. The air strikes have killed 2,800 civilians, including 500 children. Human Rights Watch charges that these bombings “have indiscriminately killed and injured civilians.”

During the past five years, the U.S. government has sold the Saudis $100 billion worth of arms. These sales have greatly enriched U.S. defense contractors.

A United Nations panel of experts concluded in October 2015 that the Saudi-led coalition had committed “grave violations” of civilians’ human rights. They include indiscriminate attacks; targeting markets, a camp for displaced Yemenis, and humanitarian aid warehouses; and intentionally preventing the delivery of humanitarian assistance. The panel was also concerned that the coalition considered civilian neighborhoods, including Marra and Sadah, as legitimate strike zones. The International Committee of the Red Cross documented 100 attacks on hospitals.

In an interesting twist, the Saudis contributed $10 million to the Clinton Foundation before Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State. In 2011, the year after the State Department had documented myriad serious human rights violations by Saudi Arabia, Hillary oversaw a $29 billion sale of advanced fighter jets to the Saudis, declaring it was in our national interest. The deal was “a top priority” for Hillary, according to Andrew Shapiro, an assistant secretary of state. Two months before the deal was clinched, Boeing, manufacturer of one of the fighter jets the Saudis sought to acquire, contributed $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

Well George, what can I say. Perhaps I shuffled papers or maybe I got to watch someone semi-important shuffle papers. I know you believe in your cronies and your private industry connections, and it sad that you think only republicans have any honor or concern for our country. But I won't or really can't encourage you to open your mind and entertain the idea that many others actually love this country. I'm simply an old DOD employee married to retired ASA (army security agency for those who have no clue about the military) also actually still is a DOD employee. But perhaps we worked in the mail room and just pretend to exist on a par with the west coast conservatives.

Enjoy the Trump Administration, and be very very careful with who you share thoughts, I wouldn't want you to be on the losing end of a trump loyalty pogrom

Chuckles (and apologies to George obiwan) Three threats in the conclusion sentence, including a death threat.

That's gotta go down in A2K history as the worst threat ever. Nice work, agent Smith.

Does anyone know when Cicerone imposter started disliking Hitlary?

Quote Glennn:

Is that all? The Clinton Foundation is a worthy trust, highly rated in the percentage of donated money actually reaching the people who need it. Saudi Arabia, despite what you said, is one of the world's most charitable donors. Check the facts:

"After the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and the resulting massive tsunamis, the Saudi government gave $30 million in aid to aid the victims, including a $5 million private donation by King Fahd (Saudis in total, including citizens, donated more than $80 million).[8]

In the aftermath of the 2005 Kashmir earthquake, Saudi Arabia donated over US$3.3 million, more than any other country,[9] and promised an additional $573 million, also the maximum amount of money pledged.[10] Saudi Arabia also provided 4000 pre-fabricated houses to Pakistan through the Saudi Public Assistance for Pakistan Earthquake Victims (SPAPEV). The houses, which were to be equipped with all required facilities, cost over $16.7 million.[11] The SPAPEV also distributed 230,000 blankets, 150,000 quilts, 10,000 ordinary tents, 2,500 special winterized waterproof tents, 100,000 stoves, 100,000 food.[12]

The Saudi government pledged $230 million to development in Afghanistan. It has also pledged $133 million in direct grant aid, $187 million in concessional loans, and $153 million in export credits for Pakistan earthquake relief.[4]

In the aftermath of the 2010 Pakistan floods, Saudi Arabia has donated more than US $361.99 million for the relief operation, topping the list of all donating countries.[13] Saudi royal family donated $20 million on the first day whereas Saudi citizens donated more than $107 million were collected in the first three days.[14] Saudi Arabia started the largest air relief bridge in the history and also donated two hospital consisting of 100 beds.[15] "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_foreign_assistance

Saudi Arabia does some things we don't like. Saudi Arabia also is an American ally in a tinderbox part of the world. Would you prefer Russia be buddies with Saudi Arabia instead of us? And as you can see, $10 Million isn't squat as far as Saudi charitable giving goes.

That's some kind of twisted "logic" you're playing with there.

Russia is "buddies" with Saudi Arabia. Aren't you following the news?
reported.

Hitlary seems to think business men like Trump would make the best President.

Whats the matter Blickers? Sky not so bright and shiny today?

Builder, this is inexcusable bile from a desperate loser.

Nobody gave her the keys to the country. What a cowardly joke. Talk about what you please.

It was directed at George obiwan, but I had to say something.

Death threats from a Hillary supporter shouldn't really raise anyone's eyebrows, when you think about it, Lash.

I'd venture that the timeline and the rationale are fuzzy in CI's mind, so it's probably futile for others to speculate about.

Glitterbag didn't threaten anyone's life. She was warning people to be careful what they wish for, especially if they are trying to get Trump put in charge of our foreign policy with despots, and our national security. The distinction between that and a death threat is clear as a bell - probably even to you shits who are trying to pretend otherwise.

Quite right. Ten million dollars isn't squat, which shows that Clinton's unethical favors come cheap.
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A United Nations panel of experts concluded in October 2015 that the Saudi-led coalition had committed “grave violations” of civilians’ human rights. They include indiscriminate attacks; targeting markets, a camp for displaced Yemenis, and humanitarian aid warehouses; and intentionally preventing the delivery of humanitarian assistance. The panel was also concerned that the coalition considered civilian neighborhoods, including Marra and Sadah, as legitimate strike zones. The International Committee of the Red Cross documented 100 attacks on hospitals.
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So in your mind, it's possible to pay for the privilege of committing grave violations of human rights and getting good weapons deals? You sound like good Secretary of State material. Usually The U.S. punishes those who do such things.

Perhaps he doesn't share your "nothing new in, nothing old out" philosophy when it comes to learning.

I'm grateful to see an intellectually honest person cutting through bullshit.

Thanks. And right back at ya.