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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ? Part 2

 
 
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2016 11:18 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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Good luck on that. Do not hold your breath.


Unlike many here, I have a life outside these little boxes. You know; work, a social existence, shopping, visiting relatives, all those normal human activities.

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Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 12:16 am
@Krumple,
Quote Krumple:
Quote:
Temporaily inforce sterilazation that is reversed when you prove your financial responsibilty for a family.

Brilliant suggestion, outside of the fact that if it was adopted 2,000 years ago the human race would have ceased to exist. Are you sure you aren't a surviving Neanderthal trying to get even with Homo Sapien for driving you to extinction 28,000 years ago? One never knows who is behind these screen names.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah279/LeviStubbs/world%20income%20and%20population_zpslzdarotv.jpg
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 05:43 am
For anyone interested in the real Hillary Clinton:

Her public persona supports gay rights, her private persona DOES NOT.
She throws terms like "sand nigger " around quite liberally.
She actually thinks that having a public view and a private view isn't plain out lying.
She supported TPP and fracking privately while LYING to the public about it.

#wikileaks

snood
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 05:52 am
Builder is spouting some inane nonsense. He's clearly equating Trump's gutter language and behavior to the sex-fantasy fiction 50 shades of gray, and intimating that the book and movies' popularity suggests women's true attitude toward Trump's garbage.

As it turns out, Builder is just repeating the sentiments of the right wing fringe. His inane nonsense isn't even original inane nonsense. He must've read something like what's referred to in these links - the babblings of the inveterate asswipe Joe Walsh.

http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-trump-50-shades-20161010-snap-story.html
revelette2
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 06:04 am
Locker room talk? Key women voters call foul on Trump's defense

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U.S. Republican Donald Trump has dismissed his vulgar sexual comments about women that surfaced on a video as "locker room talk," but his explanation did little to soothe the queasiness of Esther Rosser, a 71-year-old grandmother from Virginia.

“I know he apologized, and all you can do is apologize, but he could have said more,” said Rosser, who has voted Republican her whole life but decided this weekend that she would support Trump's rival for president, Democrat Hillary Clinton.

“He disrespected us," she said of Trump, referring to women in general.
Rosser's misgivings echoed many of the sentiments expressed by more than two dozen women voters interviewed by Reuters who, as recently as September, had not decided whether they would support Trump or Clinton in the Nov. 8 U.S. election.

In the informal survey conducted by phone the day after Sunday's presidential debate, many women said they were appalled by the 2005 video in which Trump bragged of kissing and groping women without consent. The video surfaced on the Washington Post's website on Friday afternoon.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 06:28 am
@snood,
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I take it by your response that he's often full of it?


Pretty much. I've put a bunch of the trolls on ignore and I am happier.

I am tired of unsourced quotes, bogus unsubstantiated assertions, denial as debate, nasty insults. I refuse to piss with skunks. And it seems by ignoring them my whole a2k experience has gotten better. It seems like a2k itself has gotten better. There haven't been any troll driven lock downs of threads in a a couple of weeks.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 09:57 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

She actually thinks that having a public view and a private view isn't plain out lying.


This isn't lying. This is how everything works. What the hell is wrong with you?? What do you think is wrong with this?

You know what I hope. I hope she has a private view that single payer healthcare is the way to go, but for political reasons she has to say that she just want's a public option. There are personal goals/plans/thoughts and there are plans that she's declared publicly. This is the key to negotiation and something that literally every person in the world does to some degree and FOR SURE something that every union, every business, every parent, every spouse, everybody does.

This would be like getting mad at your teacher's union for having a private view that they don't want to share with the school board and a public plan that is passed around for negotiation.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 10:07 am
@maporsche,
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What the hell is wrong with you??


http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/thenewcivilrightsmovement/pages/17787/meta_images/original/wsj_hillary_4.jpg?1475248679
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 10:19 am
@maporsche,
Amazing. You approve of politicians lying to the public to trick them into voting for them, and then do as they please after they're elected.

That explains why we can't communicate. You'll love the coming neoliberal fascism--& thanks for supporting it. You'll get what you deserve.
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 10:21 am
@snood,
This is one of the narratives the Clintonists are pushing to try to bully the public into voting for Hillary. Would you like to guess how it's working?
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 10:50 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Amazing. You approve of politicians lying to the public to trick them into voting for them, and then do as they please after they're elected.

That explains why we can't communicate. You'll love the coming neoliberal fascism--& thanks for supporting it. You'll get what you deserve.


I can't wrap my head around how your mind works.

You understand that someone may have an goal that is 2-3 steps further than the public is willing to go right now and because of that they can only talk or consider their first step... like you understand this is how life works right?

It's like that saying "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time."

Imagine a world where Bernie Sanders got all of his publicly stated goals accomplished on his first day in office. Do you think he has ZERO ideas or goals that he kept to himself privately? Do you think he'd not sign any further pieces of legislation for the remaining 3 years and 364 days in office?
snood
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 10:51 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

This is one of the narratives the Clintonists are pushing to try to bully the public into voting for Hillary. Would you like to guess how it's working?

Yeah, Hillary's REALLY struggling now...
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 10:58 am
@Lash,
Lash. If you really want to take it down as low as you seem to want:

All other things being as they are: I'd much rather have the liar you think Hillary is as President, than the liar I know lyin' Donny tRump is as President.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 11:14 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Trust me, man. You don't want to try to go as low as she can get.
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Krumple
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 03:19 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:

Quote Krumple:
Quote:
Temporaily inforce sterilazation that is reversed when you prove your financial responsibilty for a family.

Brilliant suggestion, outside of the fact that if it was adopted 2,000 years ago the human race would have ceased to exist. Are you sure you aren't a surviving Neanderthal trying to get even with Homo Sapien for driving you to extinction 28,000 years ago? One never knows who is behind these screen names.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah279/LeviStubbs/world%20income%20and%20population_zpslzdarotv.jpg


Typical sky would fall reply. Exaggerating the outcome through ignorance of what I proposed.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 03:29 pm
@maporsche,
Lash doesn't understand history. Our economy does better under democratic presidents. That means everybody benefits, not only the wealthy.
Krumple
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 03:45 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

Lash wrote:

She actually thinks that having a public view and a private view isn't plain out lying.


This isn't lying. This is how everything works. What the hell is wrong with you?? What do you think is wrong with this?

You know what I hope. I hope she has a private view that single payer healthcare is the way to go, but for political reasons she has to say that she just want's a public option. There are personal goals/plans/thoughts and there are plans that she's declared publicly. This is the key to negotiation and something that literally every person in the world does to some degree and FOR SURE something that every union, every business, every parent, every spouse, everybody does.

This would be like getting mad at your teacher's union for having a private view that they don't want to share with the school board and a public plan that is passed around for negotiation.


The thing you guys dont acknowledge is the whole heath system problem was created by our government to begin with and then they want credit for coming up with a "solution"?

Its like a doctor of a small town purposely poisions the drinking water and then when the crisis hits he steps out to claim the hero by implimenting his solution which involves everyone giving him money so he carry out the plan. Its a trick the whole time and you guys fall for it every turn.
Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 05:33 pm
@Krumple,
No, that's baloney. The health care system had severe problems before Obamacare, specifically some 40 Million uncovered Americans. That's as many people as live in England going around America with no health insurance. Of course, if they lived in England, or any other advanced nation, they wouldn't have to worry because all the other advanced countries have health insurance for everyone.
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Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 05:48 pm
@Krumple,
Quote Krumple:
Quote:
Temporaily inforce sterilazation that is reversed when you prove your financial responsibilty for a family.


Quote Blickers:
Quote:
Brilliant suggestion, outside of the fact that if it was adopted 2,000 years ago the human race would have ceased to exist.


Quote Krumple:
Quote:

Typical sky would fall reply. Exaggerating the outcome through ignorance of what I proposed.


Not exaggerating anything. Simply pointed out that your plan, which is full of flaws, carries the additional fault of that if it was adopted 2,000 years ago, we would not be here now. Up until recently, almost nobody had the income to actually afford children, yet they had them anyway and that system worked out alright. Hence the chart:

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah279/LeviStubbs/world%20income%20and%20population_zpslzdarotv.jpg

Unfortunately, your kind of thinking is typical of too many people who call themselves conservatives today. You turn up your nose at the idea of providing free birth control to cut down on the number of unwanted pregnancies, no doubt for "moral" reasons, then enthusiastically propose a totalitarian plan which would take away the woman's right to fulfill her body's natural function until she pleases some fat, crooked apparatchik in a grey suit.

Your proposal is evidence that the conservative movement has fallen upon evil times indeed, more and more removed from the conservatism of just a few years ago.
Krumple
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2016 06:27 pm
@Blickers,
I'm not a conservative, how many times does it need to be said. Then tell me where I support the idea that contraceptives for women shouldn't be publically paid for through healthcare? Tell me.

I'm not talking about 2000 years ago, it's a completely idiotic comparison. There were so many other factors involved in the cost of living or raising of children, not to mention the burden they place on society for simple failure to meet the standard. The "cost" involved is more than just a financial one.
 

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