Castrating paedophiles...

Are we talking "chemical" or "physical" ?

How overwhelming is the evidence that other measures than jail and psychiatry -- castration, registration, you name it -- cause fewer children to be assaulted? To me, this seems to be the only test that counts.


Certainly that's not a valid excuse for the pedophile -- age of consent and all that -- but I doubt this is always a lie. As I remember my own childhood, I was definitely interested in naked women when I was eight or nine, and if I had had the opportunity to sleep with one of them, I would have probably been interested.


Perhaps so, but I'm not so sure about the "hate them" part; prehaps your image of murderers and rapists is too idealistic in this regard. I'd think that since these people are murderers and rapists anyway, they get a kick out of doing it again. Raping and killing pedophiles is a convenient way for them to do it because nobody will defend them. It is the low risk that attracts them, not their righteous anger. (Not that the two are mutually exclusive.)

I actually agree with you on every point Thomas, except on some minor technical points. Pedophiles by definition abuse children younger than the age of consent, which therefore makes them the figure of power, and the child an innocent. They use this power to satisfy their needs, and yes, there is no valid excuse for it. They know the child is vulnerable, and it's punishable by law.

The majority of pedophiles are men, who prey both on young boys and girls. Female pedophiles are rare. I in know way idealize the actions of any rapist or murderer. I just find it interesting how even in the criminal world there is a heirarchy of sorts, however base.

This is one of my hot buttons. I say just kill 'em.

That would be kinder than castration. Thanks for bringing it up. :wink:

and cheaper than the state(read: taxpayers) paying for the procedure and either paying for their incarceration or assigning them to a case worker......we've got to conserve every penny....there's a war on ya know.....

I don't usually respond to Bear to keep tensions down, But I agree.

I'll alert the media......

This a moment in history. McG, BPB and myself all agree on something. I was just trying to be polite.

Now I KNOW the Apocolypse is upon us!

Run for the hills, repent now.

In any event, I think chemical castration is fine, provided it can be guaranteed that the individual is getting their meds...

Physical castration is another matter.

I believe that we can end someones life through execution if the jury decides that, but physically maiming someone and leaving them alive is wrong. (Too much like losing your hand for stealing ala Saudi Arabia)

I still think execution is a viable punishment for pedos, but it will never sell in the judicial system.

I any, I want to add - or, only, if we loose democracy and civilisation completely.

Never knowing how much to reveal on line..and how others will react to statements i make..this subject hits me in my gut...being a victim of sexual abuse as a child...but i am not sure that execution is the answer..or physical castration...the only thing that would satisfy me is if i was the one allowed to do the castrating...and i struggle everyday with how guilty that makes me feel..

Thanks for your input, willow_tl!

I know someone very, very well, who was abused by her father as child.
And, of course, I know (knew, is dead by now) her father, too.

She never thaught such, just was abhorring him.

Castration is not only considered cruel punishment, but it doesn't work as well as "chemical castration."

Achieving an erection according to Masters and Johnson is learned behavior. To think that castrating a fellow after learning that behavior will "put him out of commision" is medically naive.

May we have a discussion about the compulsory de-floration of maiden aunts?

Any volunteers?

Is this what one refers to as a gruatuitous thread? Or is this a vital issue, like getting a two thirds majority in both houses to worry the subject of Gay Marriage?

From the look of it six months ago a pedophile might have been welcomed at Abu Ghraib to defend our National Security.

**I'll disclose right now that my post will not be polite and PC. This is not a polite topic. So I apologize in advance for any offence I may give. **

Cut 'em off. Throw 'em out. Grind 'em up.

Sick, perverted, unnatural, demented, abhorrent people do this to innocent children and f**k them up for the rest of their lives. I don't criticize or blame willow one bit for her feelings. Put yourself in the situation of having the man you trust most in your life do this to you. Makes you look at things a little differently. Maybe it is "inhumane" but what I find far more inhumane is that anyone would stick up for these people! And to say this is a sickness and that they can't help it is just wrong. It may be a mental disorder but come on. "I can't help but touch my 5 year old"....bullshit. This makes me physically sick. You may not be able to control your feelings but you CAN control your actions.

Go get 'em, Kristie!

I'd love to. Prision would seem like a Disney movie.

Even though I look upon execution as a viable punishment for these people, I do have just one question...

Has anyone ever figured why these sickos are attracted to children?

I mean, I am as fond of the opposite sex as the next guy (No offence meant to our homosexual brothers and sisters), but I just don't understand?

Is this a power/control thing like rape or is there something wrong with their brains?

I mean, I am considered wierd by my friends because I love big women, but at least I can define what it is about those women that sexually arouses me, but children? ... I just don't get it.


THESE are my kind of women (Note the word WOMEN as in ADULT!)

I stick by my original post on page one in response to the question 'discuss'. I think the problem with this thread is mixed issues. We have the hot button: pedophilia, which is disgusting, and almost universally abhorred, despite some of it's apologists, who are sickos themselves. Next, we have this legal issue in Britain calling for the castration of pedophiles, or is it all sex offenders? Here we need some clarification. While agrote may be opposed to the possibility of this idea becoming law, the way the question is framed does come off as somehow defending pedophiles, which I absolutely know he is not doing. Then, we have the issue of execution, and the morality of it. This could be three seperate threads. For me, regarding pedophiles, the bottom line is, let 'em hang. If we want a proper debate on the proposed law in England, we need some sources, and expansion on the topic.