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How will Trump handle losing the election?

 
 
roger
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 04:26 pm
@snood,
Yeah, I think he's really gotten himself out on a limb. I wonder if he just decided his continued employment depends on a Trump victory.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 04:36 pm
@roger,
Trump already won. He charged his campaign from donated money hundreds of thousands to rent rooms from his property. An estimate provided by an outsider said all three events Trump had should have cost around $45,000.
What does doners expect from this scammer?
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revelette2
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 05:11 pm
@ossobucotemp,
I know what you mean, I try to be optimistic and look for encouraging signs, but my stomach has been in knots these last few weeks, just really tore up after the latest Comey announcement.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 05:49 pm
@revelette2,
I should have invested in Maalox.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 06:54 pm
Hey guys. Take a peek over at Silver's 538.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 07:00 pm
Harry Reid was right!!--FBI is investigating Trump ties to Russia.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-making-inquiry-ex-trump-campaign-manager-s-foreign-ties-n675881

The FBI has been conducting a preliminary inquiry into Donald Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort's foreign business connections, law enforcement and intelligence sources told NBC News Monday.

Word of the inquiry, which has not blossomed into a full-blown criminal investigation, comes just days after FBI Director James Comey's disclosure that his agency is examining a new batch of emails connected to an aide to Hillary Clinton.

And it comes a day after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid criticized Comey's revelation and asserted that Comey possesses "explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government."

...

Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, regularly receives sensitive briefings. Schiff said he could not discuss Reid's assertions, but he said, "Americans have every right to be concerned about what they see in terms of Trump advisors and their closeness with the Kremlin, Trump's policies vis-a-vis Russia, Trump's potential financial interest, all of those things ought to be of deep concern to voters."
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 07:01 pm
Trump accused of tax fraud in Mexico
Source: The Hill

A Mexican government official filed a federal criminal tax fraud complaint Friday against Donald Trump in Tijuana, Mexico, related to Trump Ocean Resort, a real estate project that folded in 2009.

Jaime Martínez Veloz, a former member of Mexico’s Congress who is now a mid-level official with the Mexican federal government, also sent a letter to the mayor of Tijuana, asking city hall to determine if any local regulations were violated by the failed development.

Martínez filed the criminal complaint as a private citizen. Under the Mexican legal system, private criminal complaints are filed directly to prosecutors, not to the police.

In the letter, Martínez said he’d filed a complaint seeking for federal charges against the GOP presidential nominee so that “once legal requirements demanded by national laws are gathered, the corresponding legal action can be executed,” reported La Jornada newspaper.

-snip-

Read more: http://thehill.com/latino/303691-trump-accused-of-tax-fraud-in-mexico
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 07:02 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Hey guys. Take a peek over at Silver's 538.

Yeah it's showing their chances of winning as:
Hillary 75.4%
Trump 24.6%
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 07:03 pm
Donald Trump used a legally dubious maneuver in the '90s to avoid reporting.
Source: nyt

Donald J. Trump proudly acknowledges he did not pay a dime in federal income taxes for years on end. He insists he merely exploited tax loopholes legally available to any billionaire — loopholes he says Hillary Clinton failed to close during her years in the United States Senate. “Why didn’t she ever try to change those laws so I couldn’t use them?” Mr. Trump asked during a campaign rally last month.

But newly obtained documents show that in the early 1990s, as he scrambled to stave off financial ruin, Mr. Trump avoided reporting hundreds of millions of dollars in taxable income by using a tax avoidance maneuver so legally dubious his own lawyers advised him that the Internal Revenue Service would likely declare it improper if he were audited.

Thanks to this one maneuver — which was later outlawed by Congress — Mr. Trump potentially escaped paying tens of millions of dollars in federal personal income taxes. It is impossible to know for sure because Mr. Trump has declined to release his tax returns, or even a summary of his returns, breaking a practice followed by every Republican and Democratic presidential candidate for more than four decades.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/donald-trump-tax.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=64497720&pgtype=article
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 07:15 pm
@roger,
Sometimes one needs to look inside himself. I find myself at times blaming others for something I caused myself.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 07:20 pm
@blatham,
thanks for the reminder to go back
I tend to avoid 538

I did want to finish reading this transcript

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-this-what-it-looks-like-when-a-party-falls-apart/

some interesting bits in there

Quote:
clare.malone: A Trump campaign spokesperson hinted the other day that they wanted their voters to vote Trump, but then screw over the down-ballot Republicans out of spite. I mean, that’s not a field-organizing thing you can do, but there might be some Republicans who get pissed with their senator for basically ceding the presidential race and take it out on him/her.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 07:23 pm
@blatham,
As I stated earlier, the FBI is and has been an ultra conservative organization since Hoover. They kick the crap out of any liberal person or organization but over look MOST far right organizations. Thank god there is a department of justice to rein them in or we would have a Putin type FBI.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 07:28 pm
@snood,
Some of tRumps people have a direct connection to Putin and Russian business. One guy who QUIT tRumps campaign was paid $12 million dollars by a close friend of Putin but when asked about it lied. Liberal propaganda he said. Google it.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 07:30 pm
@blatham,
Dont see a hell of a lot about this in the papers either.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 07:30 pm
@RABEL222,
"12 million dollars?" I'm running around in the wrong social circle.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2016 08:23 pm
@ehBeth,
It's a very interesting chat, beth. The first take-away is how unpredictable even these number nerds see this cycle. Here's another bit that caught my attention:
Quote:
Consequence No. 2: The Republican Party will split, and a new Paul-Ryanesque party will form. So you’d have Democrats, Trumpicans and Ryancrats.

harry: Possible, but Duverger’s law suggests our political system naturally leads to two major parties.

clare.malone: It will not split and become a new party.

natesilver: But what if it’s already become a new party?

That is my take.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2016 12:34 pm
@blatham,
I heard that Trump has a group of designers preparing sketches of his visage on Mount Rushmore. They might have to lower Lincoln down a tad to make room for his bloated face.
blatham
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2016 01:14 pm
@glitterbag,
Try to imagine how tacky he'd do up the White House, in and out.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2016 01:16 pm
@blatham,
I can't imagine his wife agreeing to move to that tiny house.


(really - I was shocked by how small the WH was when I first toured it)
blatham
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2016 01:24 pm
NC Republican Senator Richard Burr joins the growing right wing chorus (McCain, Cruz, etc) stating they will do anything to stop President Clinton from naming ANY Supreme Court justice.
Quote:
Burr is hardly the only Republican to make this case. Such distinguished conservative legal minds as senator and former University of Texas law professor Ted Cruz, constitutional scholar Michael Paulsen, and Cato fellow in constitutional studies Ilya Shapiro have all begun the arduous intellectual work of discovering why the Constitution demands that Clinton be denied a ninth justice. They have developed some promising theories that, should the electorate deliver the necessary Democratic presidency–Republican Senate combination, will next year blossom into the foundational bedrock principles of the Republic itself.
http://nym.ag/2dZDfvQ
 

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