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How will Trump handle losing the election?

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 07:43 am
@Miller,
Both are necessary for the progress of a nation. Better educated young people who can navigate us through an increasingly complex and interrelated world; and gritty, hearty young people who are willing to fight and sacrifice. They are not mutually exclusive groups. They intersect.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 11:29 am
@Lash,
Fact Check on Trump.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/trumps-press-conference/
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 11:34 am
@Miller,
If you can't understand simple concepts about the educated, and why this country has accomplished what it has, I have no patience for people like you. It's a waste of time. Go seek your answers at the library.

Grit, bravery, and human sacrifice isn't related to education.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 01:35 pm
@snood,
Perhaps. Of his many faults my read of him does not put cowardice very far up the list.
snood
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 01:49 pm
@Robert Gentel,
I think he's a narcissistic sociopath, a bully and a coward. I think he's been able to live in a bubble with a warped perspective and its sheltered him from ever having to account for himself according to the norms that make up a civilized society. It's hard to even detect a hint of humanity there. There's nothing there apparently but pretension about money, and white privilege, and being surrounded by yes people and enablers. Mr Khan said it right - "Mr Trump has a black soul".
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 01:53 pm
@snood,
Coward has a lot of different dimensions and meanings to it, and there are certainly plenty of things that he does that people can legitimately describe as "cowardly" but I think his temperament has the opposite problem, that he doesn't have enough healthy fear of failure, censure etc to keep him in check and give him a better filter.

Ultimately this is just semantics though, it's hard to pin down what "cowardly" actually means to different people.
snood
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 02:23 pm
@Robert Gentel,
I think there are different manifestations of cowardice, but I don't think that changes the definition.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 02:40 pm
@snood,
I'm not arguing that the definition changes, more that it is inherently multi-faceted and not simple and that there are many things that people describe as "cowardly" as a form of censure that fundamentally are not compatible with the definition of cowardice I am talking about.

My basic point is that I see his temperament as containing more boldness (to a fault) than timidity and it is that definition of cowardice that I do not think very fitting. Of course the word is used to mean many things more than that though and this is ultimately a dead-end logomachy.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 02:56 pm
@Robert Gentel,
It depends on how it's being used in the context of the whole.
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ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 02:57 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Thinking it over, I'll hypothesize that if he's not in the mood for serious debate, which I would guess isn't one of his hobbies, but does decide to show up, he would clown it up somehow. Or clown it down. I don't think well of him, but he does have a working brain and apparently has some star appeal. He could captivate scads of people by changing his hair to mauve.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 03:07 pm
@ossobucotemp,
His style of debate is just to lob insults, I'm not saying he will debate seriously or is even capable of it, I'm saying he'll show up because not doing so would be a greater politically cost.

He's prone to complain about fairness and boycott things for them, but if he does not debate Hillary once from now to the election it will be one of the biggest arrows to hand to her quiver that he could give.
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 03:13 pm
@Robert Gentel,
I think I agree with that... but he tends to toss quivers off. It would, though, be, as you are saying, a Hillary campaign boost, I would hope.
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 03:23 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Quote:
more boldness (to a fault) than timidity


Just so we're agreed that his"boldness to a fault" isn't courage. It doesn't take courage to bully people from a position of advantage, sheltered from all natural consequence.

What Trump does doesn't take any more courage than typing fighting words on a web forum.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 04:02 pm
@snood,
I wouldn't describe him as courageous either, but still think this is a pointless logomachy that I don't really have much more to say about.
snood
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 05:26 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Hey Robert - If you find you have nothing left to say about something, you might find that just saying nothing saves everyone time, and works just as well as labeling it an empty argument about words, then saying nothing.
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 05:31 pm
@snood,
huh?

snood
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 05:33 pm
@ossobucotemp,
If you have nothing to say, just say nothing. That clear it up for ya?
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 06:01 pm
@snood,
I'm just trying to be polite to you man. And saying that it is a logomachy is a legitimate point to make in my opinion. If you don't think so I understand if you don't make the point but it's no skin off your back if I choose to.
snood
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 06:06 pm
@Robert Gentel,
True. Peace.
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seac
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2016 10:43 pm
@Robert Gentel,
I'm sure Mr. Trump can take the lose in stride. He probably can claim a huge tax deduction from his campaigns. Then gloat in luxury as before.
 

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