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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
hobitbob
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2003 03:05 pm
wolf wrote:
May I just say that as long as you mock Dubya, you will not be able to replace the administration let alone the policy his puppetmasters stand for. It's the Ronald Reagan trick all over again, and it's working.

I'm intrigued...please explain.
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BillW
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2003 03:08 pm
Especially when Dubya mocks himself and everything American Confused
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2003 03:25 pm
I think what he is saying is that we are not taking the boy-king seriously,and that he uses that to his advantage. I agree with that premise. I don't doubt that he intends to buy the 2004 election. The combination of the amount of money he has already raised, and continues to raise, and the cancellation of both Dem and Repub primaries in many republican run states (including my own) definately makes me suspicious that the next election will be anything close to fair or legal.
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BillW
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2003 03:33 pm
We, of course, have to wait and see. Hopefully, most Americans we see exactly what you state and the largest vote will be a "protest" vote.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2003 03:49 pm
That's what I was going to say, Hobit, when a great clap of thunder made me shut down my 'puter right quick!

Reagan and Bush both used a kind of genial dimness and bumbling to their advantage. The trick is to remember that both are largely cardboard figures. The flesh and blood we have to worry about are their hirelings (on the one hand) and the people who are paying them them all (on the other). From Cheney to Rove, from Lockheed to Halliburton, the "Bush administration" is huge and has powerful tentacles.

I don't think Bush himself is that stoopid. He's just completely free of scruples and a little out of control when he's not on the Cheney/Rove leash. Personally? A real bastard (but smo-o-o-o-oth!)
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BillW
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2003 04:01 pm
Not real stupid, but no better than C-----, probably closer to a D; but, not real stupid!!!
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wolf
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2003 06:12 pm
As long as he keeps you scorning, he keeps you from organizing. In the meanwhile, he's ravaging your and my child's future. He still is the Toxic Texan, only now on an international scale. He ain't funny.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 05:50 am
Perhaps. But the odds are increasing that he will get a second term. None of the seven dwarfs appears able to touch him.

Democrat fund raising has, in fact been a good deal greater than Republican. However, it is split among many candidates and the capmaign so far has tended to exacerbate the divisions within that party.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 06:35 am
georgeob1 wrote:
Democrat fund raising has, in fact been a good deal greater than Republican. However, it is split among many candidates and the capmaign so far has tended to exacerbate the divisions within that party.

... while millions of dollars, which people donated to help the country get rid of George Bush, get wasted in an arms race between the Democratic candidates. I hate to give it to you George, but you're right on this point. It's depressing! Sad
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 07:51 am
I think the current Democrat primary struggle is more than just an arms race. It seems to me that the divisions within the party are both wide and laden with rather old moss. Gebhart and his union masters; Dean and his social revolutionaries; Kerry and his search for meaning; Sharpton and his con game - none will be able to unite the party. The agendas of its various elements are far too inconsistent and discordant for any unity to emerge in the months ahead. While they can unite among themselves in opposition to the present administration, that will not win them an election. Leiberman has the necessary gravitas and some potential as a Democrat leader, but I believe he is not a winner.

I am encouraged!
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 10:29 am
But george, your guy has nothing - look where that got him, oh yeah, losing the election!!!!!!!!!!
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 10:38 am
If he loses the next one the same way that will be OK with me.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 10:52 am
According to yesterday's NY Times, Bush enjoys going on runs on his Texas ranch when the temp is over 100. Praises those who join the fun by saying they're members of his "100 Degree Club."

If he keeps that up, this whole topic may be moot. If this is unclear, go for a run the next the temp is in the three digits and it's humid...
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 11:20 am
Then you get Cheney? gagggggggggggggg....................
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wolf
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 11:55 am
Quote:
According to yesterday's NY Times, Bush enjoys going on runs on his Texas ranch when the temp is over 100. Praises those who join the fun by saying they're members of his "100 Degree Club."

If he keeps that up, this whole topic may be moot. If this is unclear, go for a run the next the temp is in the three digits and it's humid...



Understandable, he's a human lizard... first kind. Ready to pollute Earth into a Venuslike atmosphere and then breed more lizard offspring.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 11:58 am
You could be on to something, wolf. Right now he's touring the west, telling us how all we need to do to prevent forest fires is to cut down trees. Makes sense, I guess. If there were no trees, there'd be fewer fires.

Smoky the Bear, we hardly knew ye...
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 11:59 am
Too many dead pine trees in the west. Even the environmentalists agree. Forests have been mismanaged.
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wolf
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 12:00 pm
Yeah, who the hell needs trees... let alone in hell.
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wolf
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 12:13 pm
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Too many dead pine trees in the west. Even the environmentalists agree. Forests have been mismanaged


As if pine trees were the cause for the forest fires. Do you seriously try to insinuate that Bush is remanaging forests and NOT doing the logging industry big favors? Are you aware that the increase in forest fires is due to the global increase in temperature caused by the heaping of decades long fossil fuel exhaust? Are you aware that these fires have killed a dozen individuals in Europe alone in one month, and are further aggravating climate change?

Or are you just an irresponsible being who couldn't care less? Lots of questions for a small mind, I guess.
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 01:23 pm
concrete and asphalt the world -
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