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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 01:35 pm
The approach to forest fires is reminiscent of the approach to unemployment: Cut taxes.

The point, of course, is to give wealthy corporate types what they want, but always in the guise of doing good work for everyone.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 01:41 pm
Well, here's some links for you all to ponder. I'm sure your superior intellects will allow you to read into them whatever you want to.


http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/Stories/0,1413,87~2425~1530164,00.html
http://www.nctimes.net/news/2003/20030629/62900.html
http://www.montanaforum.com/rednews/2003/07/25/build/forests/forestrules.php?nnn=2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/933908/posts
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wolf
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 05:39 pm
I'm not debating whether severe droughts are spreading wildfires all over the planet. I'm trying to hear from you who is responsible for trying to stop our attempts to limit aggravation of this soaring heat in the coming decade.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 06:22 pm
"I ain't gettin' up until it's time for the next fundraiser, Dick!"

"That's fine with me, GDub...hey, these margaritas are weapons of mass destruction!"

http://www.bartcop.com/crawford21.jpg

Meanwhile, in Iraq:

http://www.bartcop.com/coffin-flag-draped-marines.jpg
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2003 06:23 pm
point made
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 13 Aug, 2003 09:24 am
You guys really need to get out more often.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 13 Aug, 2003 10:42 am
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/freshlaundry/wonka/
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 13 Aug, 2003 10:51 am
This bit of behind the scenes work has just been revealed:

http://workingforchange.speedera.net/www.workingforchange.com/webgraphics/wfc/TMW08-13-03.gif
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Aug, 2003 06:03 pm
Bush apparently doesn't know how many soldiers he's sent to Afghanistan in the past two years.

Asked about force presence in Afghanistan, Bush said US soldiers are being "gradually replaced" by other troops:

Quote:
"We've got about 10,000 troops there, which is down from, obviously, major combat operations," he said. "And they're there to provide security and they're there to provide reconstruction help. But both those functions are being gradually replaced by other troops. Germany, for example, is now providing the troops for ISAF [International Security Assistance Force], which is the security force for Afghanistan, under NATO control. In other words, more and more coalition forces and friends are beginning to carry a lot of the burden in Afghanistan."


In fact, the 10,000 troops in Afghanistan represent the highest number of U.S. soldiers in the country since the war there began. By the time the Taliban government had been vanquished in December 2001, U.S. troops numbered fewer than 3,000 in Afghanistan. And three months later, in March 2002, when the last major battle against remnants of the Taliban and al Qaeda took place in eastern Afghanistan, about 5,000 U.S. troops were in the country.

Wasn't Howard Dean criticized for not knowing this? Rolling Eyes
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 19 Aug, 2003 06:25 pm
Look at my signature Cool perfect example, then again, maybe Bush is revealing some secret intelligence Razz
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2003 07:49 am
As of 8/21, 22 U.S. soldiers have lost their lives in Iraq while the President vacationed.

Does Bush seem just a tad callous, or what?

It took him four hours to bring himself to speak to the nation after the electricity blackout began, and then he could do so only on tape. After this week's bombing that killed 20 UN workers, Bush's handlers managed to get him off the golf course, into a suit and tie, and in front of cameras a bit faster. The keepers are learning, it seems.

However, Dubya has yet to attend a single funeral for a fallen soldier. Remember his statement about him being "the one who has to hug the mothers"? The truth is he can't be bothered when he's got a tee-off time.

Off the golf course, the President also appears to be weak on follow-through. He has a well-established pattern of making a big splash of support for some worthy cause or another, then withdrawing support after the cameras are turned off.

An example is what Bush did to the Teach for America program, which sends recent college graduates to teach for two years in the poorest urban and rural school districts. Bush waved the Teach for America banner in the 2000 campaign; Wendy Kopp, the founder of TFA, was invited to sit with the First Lady when the President gave his first budget message to Congress. Laura Bush also gave a Teach for America gala in May 2001 and celebrated a Teach for America Week in October 2001.

In July 2003, however, Teach for America received notice that the program was being dumped from AmeriCorps and defunded.

Earlier this year, the administration tried to cut back on the air marshall program to save on hotel expenses. They backtracked quickly when public disapproval roared. But airport security is only a small part of what's falling through the homeland security cracks. According to Slate.com, Security honcho Tom Ridge is now asking for funds to identify "critical infrastructure" (vulnerable nuclear, chemical, and industrial plants) and reduce the risks at those sites.

Why wasn't this done a year ago ago, when DHS became operational?

Police still cannot access a terrorist "watch list" database. So if a cop stops a guy for speeding, and the guy is wanted by the FBI for planning to blow up Chicago, the cop would have no way to find out about it. (One of the September 11 terrorists had been stopped for speeding two days before and released with a ticket.) After September 11, Bush promised money to cities for anti-terrorism and first-response training. Much of the promised money never materialized. Cities are going broke attempting to pay for their own security (with no national coordination, of course). These days, when the terror alert level goes up, many cities are unable to respond with increased security measures because they cannot pay for it. And more money does not appear to be forthcoming anytime soon.

Bush continues to pretend the war in Afghanistan is over and won even as violence there escalates. Reconstruction efforts have faltered, and Taliban forces using the guerrilla tactics of the mujahadeen fighters who defeated the Soviets are posing a threat.

Oh yeah... then there's Iraq. Bush sent us into Baghdad with pre-war fabrications and without post-war plans. Once Bush got his photo op on the USS Abraham Lincoln he lost interest.

Our soldiers continue to die, yet Bush can't be bothered to attend even one funeral.

Not when there's golf to be played.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2003 07:54 am
Naw, PDiddie! He's not vacationing. He's raising money to stay in office for four more years, kill THOUSANDS more Americans, Iraqis, Koreans -- you know, WHATEVER! Jolly good fun, the fella has! Zap! Pow! Better 'n' one of those pin ball machines.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2003 08:13 am
Published on Thursday, August 21, 2003 by the
<http://www.madison.com>Madison Capital Times

Even the Obits are Going Against Bush
by John Nichol

Buzz Davis laughed a good hard laugh.

"Oh, I would have loved to know that lady!" exclaimed the Stoughton activist and former Dane County supervisor.

Davis was talking about Sally Baron, who passed away Monday in Stoughton at age 71. Baron did not make a lot of news in her lifetime - she was busy working and raising six kids - but she went out with a message that warmed the hearts of Davis and a lot of other small-town Wisconsin progressives.

No one should slip the mortal coil without raging one last time against the
dying of the light. And so Sally Baron did.

"Memorials in her honor can be made to any organization working for the
removal of President Bush," reads Baron's obituary in today's editions of
The Capital Times.

When I read that line, which her family decided to include in the obituary,
I didn't need to see another word to be sure that Sally Baron was a native
Wisconsinite rooted in the working-class progressive politics of this state.

And so she was.

Sally Baron was born in the far north of Wisconsin in the year that
Franklin Delano Roosevelt swept Herbert Hoover from office. When she was growing up around Hurley, Republicans weren't even on the radar. People voted for Democrats for president and for the old Progressive Party - a wild mix of renegade La Follette Republicans and radicals - in state races.

My friend Laurie Carlson used to represent the north in the Legislature as
a Progressive, and he swore that the movement's truest believers could be
found on the back roads of Bayfield, Ashland and Iron counties. That was
where hardscrabble farmers, fishermen and miners nurtured a healthy disgust for the smirking elitists who controlled too much of the economy and, as the years went on, too much of the politics of the nation.

Sally Baron grew up in a time and a place where Laurie Carlson and his
comrades battled against the corporate elites and "Tory" Republicans with a passion they traced back to the days of the American Revolution against the British royals and a feudal system that handed power from father to son.

Even at 90, Laurie still waded into debates on the side of the workers
against bosses, the farmers against agribusiness, and hard-knocks kids
against the fair-haired sons of privilege.

No wonder, then, that Sally Baron bristled at the sight of George W. Bush.
The wife of a miner who was injured in a pit accident, she raised six kids
in a world our inherited and selected president could never imagine. Sally
Baron's kids say she did not like the way Bush smirked when he spoke.
Considering that he did not even win the most votes in the 2000 election,
her thinking went, he could have been more humble.

Even before the recent scandal over Bush's State of the Union address,
Baron also thought Bush had trouble telling the truth. Baron's daughter,
Maureen Bettilyon, says her mother "thought he was a liar." "She'd always
watch CNN, C-SPAN, and you know, she'd just swear at the TV and say, 'OH, Bush, he's such a whistle ass!' She'd get so mad," recalled Bettilyon.

When her family gathered to write an obituary for Sally Baron this week,
someone suggested that their mother would have wanted donation to go to
folks who were working to impeach Bush. That was tamed down a bit to
"working for the removal of President Bush." ...

Copyright 2003 The Capital Times
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2003 08:29 am
"Whistle ass."

Heh, heh, heh.

I think I'll start using that.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2003 10:17 am
26 American Soldiers Have Lost Their Lives in Iraq Since President Bush Began His August Vacation

August 23, 2003

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As I write, 26 American soldiers have lost their lives in Iraq since President Bush began his August vacation.

The President has been busy during his vacation. He's traveled to several fundraising events, for example, and played a lot of golf. However, he has yet to attend a single funeral or speak to even one widow or orphan or mother of our dead soldiers.
As I write, on August 22, President Bush is in the northwest. He's making a couple of speeches in Burbank, WA, and attending a private fundraising luncheon at the Seattle home of cell phone magnate Craig McCaw.

While in Washington, Bush might have made time to contact the family of Army Specialist Justin Hebert, 20, of Arlington, WA. A rocket-propelled grenade killed Spc. Hebert, serving in Iraq, on August 1 as President Bush traveled to Crawford to begin his vacation.

In today's speeches, he might have mentioned the name of Private First Class Duane Longstreth, 19, of Tacoma, WA. Pfc. Longstreth and his mother, Specialist Jennifer West, both joined the Army after September 11 to fight terrorism.

On August 8, Spc.West was serving with an Army communications unit in Germany when she was told her son was dead.

On August 8, President Bush spoke to reporters outside his ranch home about deaths in Iraq. "We suffer when we lose life," the president said. This President suffers very privately, however. He does not attend funerals; he does not speak to bereaved families on the phone.

On August 9, the President treated some of his supporters to a private barbeque near his ranch. The Bush re-election campaign shuttled about 350 top fund-raisers to Crawford, Texas, for the event. The favored few had collected $50,000 each for the privilege of chowing down with the President and his advisor, Karl Rove.

On August 9, Specialist Levi B. Kinchen, 21, of Tickfaw, LA, died in Baghdad. A fellow soldier tried to wake Spc. Kinchen and noticed he was not breathing. The Department of Defense has not released a cause of death for Spc. Kinchen.

On August 12, the President raised more than a million dollars for his re-election campaign at a reception in Denver. According to the Denver Post, 375 invited donors paid $2,000 each to snack on ham and roast beef sandwiches, spinach puffs and chicken.

On August 12, Sergeant Taft Williams, 29, died when his vehicle hit an improvised explosive device in Iraq. Williams's wife, Staff Sgt. Ethelmay Williams, was with the 3rd Brigade Combat Team in Iraq when she learned of her husband's death. The couple have a young son.

Also on August 12, in Iraq, Private First Class Timmy Brown, 21, died when his vehicle was bombed. Staff Sergeant Richard S. Eaton, Jr., 37, died in his sleep, possibly as a result of heat stress.

On July 27, shortly before President Bush began his vacation, the Stars and Stripes published a letter from Pfc. John Bendetti in Tallil, Iraq. "During the day the temperature reaches 127 degrees in the shade," he wrote. "Due to a lack of bottled water, each soldier has been limited to two 1.5 liter bottles a day. We've had two soldiers drop out due to heat-related injuries. ... There will continue to be more heat casualties until something is done."

Private First Class David M. Kirchhoff, 31, died August 14 of heatstroke. Pfc. Kirchhoff, serving in Iraq with the Army National Guard, was the father of two children.

On August 14, the day Pfc. Kirchhoff died, a massive power blackout spread through much of the northeast United States. President Bush did not speak to the nation for four and a half hours after the blackout began. Eventually, he made a brief statement to reporters before leaving his suite at the Grant Hyatt Hotel in San Diego to make a speech at a $1 million fund-raising dinner.

Specialist Daniel Parker was from southern California, a few miles northwest of San Diego. His parents might have been comforted if the President had called. Spc. Parker was 18 years old. He died August 12 in Iraq.

Barbara


Weblog:
http://www.mahablog.com/
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2003 10:40 am
The military needs to share this information with all the people in uniform. After that, I'd dare Bush to play photo op another aircraft carrier. c.i.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2003 03:25 pm
Yeah Baby! Newsweek released the first poll results that were NOT in Bush's favor. 49% would not vote for Bush in the 2004 election and 44% would. It's close, it might be temporary, but it sure is sweet!

VOA - Newsweek poll
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2003 03:58 pm
Check here for selection of new action toys...from George on down.



http://www.markfiore.com/animation/action.html
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2003 04:03 pm
Watching CA too. Supposedly, the whole Bush crew (including Richard Mellon Scaife of Impeach Clinton fame) has poured a ton of money and advisers into Arnie's campaign. But....Bustamante is holding strong. Simon's out of the race, and now the party is trying to get all other entrants out. However, Bustamante is beginning to get strong backing. And, latest polls seem to show that Californians are beginning to rethink the wisdom of all this, with the figures getting closer.

CI - you're there, and watching. How's it look?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2003 04:18 pm
Ahhnold is losing some ground as the Democratic base gets riled up. He may never get into details, following Ronald Reagans tactics. Lincoln said it is better to be silent and be thought of as a fool than open your mouth and prove it.
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