Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

No, she definitely was not a victim. A willing participant is not a victim. There is a whisper of naivity on the whole affair but it's hard to fathom that it would have anything to do with the chain of events after the first month.

The packaging of Bush is made of cellophane.

Monica doesn't want to be a victim. She told another married man she was doing that she was going to the White House to give the President a blow job. She has said many times she would do it again.

Like most of these situations, the blame has to be divided 50/50.

The level of deceit and hidden agendas in this adminstration makes that indiscretion seem a paltry attempt at revenge. Over our history, transgressions at the top seats of our government have revealed a pattern of trying to save one's ass. It wasn't Clinton's ass that was particularly scrutinized here. It was his dick.

There's an overtone of voyeurism driven by some very outre fetish on the part of the examiners (I call them examiners in a disdainful homage to the Spanish Inquisition).

We have too many in this country obsessed with sex as being dirty. Well, it's only dirty to them if someone else is doing it.

I never blame those who give or receive blow jobs, I don't care who they are or how married they are. It's my view that sexuality in all its forms is a private matter. We have made the (fairly adolescent) mistake of publicizing it, fawning over it, through our pop culture, dragging it into an arena where it doesn't belong. Everybody's doin' it, doin' it, doin' it... and should be. Why its own private rules and courtesies (and discourtesies) are held up to public scrutiny ("morality," if you can believe it!!) is beyond me.

Oh. You're going to raise the issue of dads and their little girls? That's only barely in the sexual arena (if at all). That's about social maladjustment, power, and loneliness. As with rape, we need to separate that from the full-color, mature delights of human sexuality and punish it for what it is: violent grabs for power by one individual over another, worse when the "other" is a child.

Yeah, Tartar, I betcha over 50 percent of mankind are engaged in it at any time 24/7/365. c.i.

There was a very good piece in the NY Times or Slate this morning on a brief submitted to the USSC for the recent sodomy case. It was submitted by a group of historians who studied the actual history of definitions of the term sodomy (extremely varied) in western history and in American history (this was an address to the assumption, written into the earlier relevant '86 SC case, that sodomy had been commonly or universally held to be immoral in western history). Well worth finding and reading, as the assumption was shown to be quite incorrect.

The opposition is so strong because of frustration! And, the remedy is of course what is causing the frustration to begin with

We are a sexually frustrated nation -- we are suppose to have the freedom to express ourselves (as adults) in any way that doesn't break any laws. Of course, some express themselves by using pot which isn't any worse than two drinks in most cases. Some expess themselves in their sensuality (which can be sexual and often is usually interpreted in that way). Now the people who are up in arms about the demise of the sodomy laws have a paranoia that it will open the door to legalizing what is sexually anethema to nearly all of us. Not so. In Scalia pointing out gay marriages, he has equated marriage to a sexual union. What a pea brain!

LW, And these people are supposed to be the top judges in the country. Scary huh? ;( c.i.

I watched an old(ish) French movie the other night -- Cousin, Cousine -- which I've always loved. The relationships and the sex in that film bear on this discussion and I recommend it not only for that reason but because on a hot summer's night, it's terrific way to spend a little time!

You know -- I don't give a damn if gays want to call their unions "marriage." In fact, I think it's a nice idea. I suppose I should go to my OED and look at the history of the word just to be sure, but what the hell, as a heterosexual person with a bit of an "attitude" about marriage (!), I'm perfectly willing to share the term with anyone who wants it.

100 years from now this era will be looked on with the same disdain for their (not mine I would like to add) ideologies on drugs and homosexuality as the late 1800's for their ideologies on blacks and women. These are real scoundrels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Warning in Iraq report went unread

First of all, President Smirking Chimpanzee can't read anything.

As governor, he was given reports from the Texas Parole Board before each execution and instead of reading them, he would ask the delivery boy, Al Gonzales, "What does the report say?" The delivery boy would say, "It says he's guilty, Sir," and then Bush would go back to his Nintendo.

Why should he expected to behave any differently now then he has all of his adult life?

Sure that was a nintendo, I think it was maybe an Etch-A-Sketch

Give me the good old days, when a potato was a potatoe.

pong

and a tomato a tomatoe.

And a Quayle in the hand was worth two in the Bush

two bushes are worth world chaos.

Which brings us back to my favorite subject - "Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004."

LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT IT
LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!