Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

Tartar, TALKING is the beginning of the process to remove this administration from office. c.i.

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Here's some action that can easily be taken -- below is from an email just received from MoveOn.org:

This afternoon is a critical moment in the effort to roll back the FCC
media ownership rules. Your voice is needed right now.

Tonight, the House of Representatives will vote on H.R. 2799 to roll
back one of the three ownership rules - the national television cap.
Even if it passes, it is the rule with the least impact on media
diversity. In short, it is not enough.

Congressmen Hinchey and Price will introduce an amendment to restore the crucial Newspaper/Broadcast cross-ownership ban. It is the most important ownership rule, and we need the phones to ring off the hook this afternoon.

Please call your Representative NOW... Ask him or her to support the Hinchey/Price amendment to HR 2799 to restore the Newspaper/Broadcast cross-ownership ban.

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A exceptionally snarky letter-to-the-editor appearing locally (which is to say, here in Texas--this is PROGRESS, folks):

Quote:

Seeing those bloody pictures of Ootie and Cootie on the tube yesterday kinda reminded me of the Old West practice of distributing graphic photos of outlaws killed in shootouts as a form of morbid entertainment. It's good to see that our society has evolved so much since those lawless days.

I wonder if Dubya has plans to stuff and mount the heads of the Hussein boys, like hunting trophies. He could hang one on the wall of the old White House, and the other could decorate his bedroom at the "Western White House" in Crawford.

That reminds me, isn't it about time for Der Fueler to take another one of his hard-earned month-long vacations?

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Isn't this acts against the Geneva Convention? This type of act inflames the combatants and causes them to fight harder. One more great job of the great George the Younger!!!!!!!!!!

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Well, whatever. It certainly doesn't seem to have inspired greater love for the occupying army. As another of those unnamed WH people said (in today's NY Times), "it's a different culture there. You know, more like and eye for an eye."

Anybody know who collected those millions as a reward? Is that included in the defense budget?

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Point of maybe interest - there is a Howard Dean site called blogforamerica.com. Dick Cheney is scheduled for a fundraiser on Monday, 28 July, and the goal is $250,000. The Dean campaign as decided to try to either match that or come close by way of small internet contributions, and is posting timed results on the blog site. This is the most recent:

Saturday, July 26, 2003
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Dean Team v. Bush-Cheney 10pm Update
As of 10pm ET, supporters have raised $179,406.44 online in the Dean Team vs. Bush-Cheney Challenge, with 3,245 individual contributors.

Let's keep it coming:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/dtvbc

So far, this guy seems to have hit on a good way to use the internet.

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snood wrote:

"Claiming that monitoring of voting machines is "impossible" takes us beyond the unsupportable into the realm of stupidity"

"it is laughable that anyone actually thinks it is."

Scrat - I have no problem with sarcasm, cynicism, or even downright nastiness - you can no doubt attest that I have facility with all the above.

But, when you take this tone gratuitously with someone...

Snood - My comments are CLEARLY and DIRECTLY pointed to the author of the article cited, and are in no way an attack on the person who cited them or any other person in A2K. Please read what I wrote again (and in context). Thanks. Rolling Eyes

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Latest Dean online report - as of midnight july 27 they had raised about 265,000 dollars. Not bad, considering it's small donators. And lots of them. Who vote.

And the latest Zogby poll (which can no longer be pulled up so easily) says Bush has slipped to 53% in his personal ratings, which is about the highest rating he gets. John Zogby says that what has been keeping Bush afloat has been his personal ratings, but that he thinks Bush is in trouble because there has been a steady, growing slippage. Any democrat -so far - haas been pulling higher and higher ratings as someone people would vote for - drawing close now to Bush's 53%. Once the democrats get a named candidate, it could be serious trouble for Bush.

Bush had a very high rating immediately post 9/11, which was to be expected. But there has been a steady decrease since then.

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I checked a couple of hours ago and it was at $322K+. Joe Trippi and co. are jumpin' up and down...

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BTW, I heard Limbaugh on the radio while driving home a little while ago and he was talking about Dean "dragging the Dems to the Left"! I cherish that misperception, because it will get the Reps in trouble if they believe it!

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mamajuana wrote:

Latest Dean online report - as of midnight july 27 they had raised about 265,000 dollars. Not bad, considering it's small donators. And lots of them.

I wonder how we know that these are lots of small donors. Seems like it would be pretty easy to commit fraud using an on-line payment system to take in donations. Anyone know how this is being policed? (If it is being policed?) How exactly are they confirming that a specific donor is not giving multiple times?

NOTE: I am not claiming that fraud is being committed, but opining that it could. I also recognize that fraud can occur in other ways, and that on-line donations might be no more prone to fraud than other methods of giving.

But I will grant you that far more people are likely to give away $25 bucks without giving it much thought than are likely to give $2,000. :wink:

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And one can certainly count on the current administration to avoid fraud. Ergo, why bother with other candidates? Why bother with democracy or voting? With an administration of such integrity and openness as the current one, opposition is just a waste of time...

And I'm the Holy Ghost -- did I happen to mention that?

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Tellya what, Scrat. Donate $25 (obviously affordable, you say) to the Dean campaign online and you can have a look at the process, see what you think...

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Tartar, Hearty-har-har...... Wink

c.i.

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3:30 EST Dean Team v. Bush-Cheney Update
7,661 Americans have now contributed $398,418.41 to the Dean Team v. Bush-Cheney Challenge.

National Public Radio will be reporting on the day's events in the first segment of All Things Considered today. We've just received word that the story is likely to run at 12 minutes after the program starts (4 pm in most locations). Check local listings.

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Tartarin wrote:

3:30 EST Dean Team v. Bush-Cheney Update
7,661 Americans have now contributed $398,418.41 to the Dean Team v. Bush-Cheney Challenge.

National Public Radio will be reporting on the day's events in the first segment of All Things Considered today. We've just received word that the story is likely to run at 12 minutes after the program starts (4 pm in most locations). Check local listings.

I have to give Dean kudos. He's not my cup of tea, but he's clearly doing a masterful job of raising money. I don't normally wear a hat, but for the next minute or so I will pretend that I'm not wearing one because I took it off to him. Cool

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This will shortly be a Dean-Kerry race.

If Dean wins in Iowa (he's leading Gephardt) and New Hampshire (he has pulled even with Kerry) then he will be very tough to unseat.

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PDiddie wrote:

This will shortly be a Dean-Kerry race.

If Dean wins in Iowa (he's leading Gephardt) and New Hampshire (he has pulled even with Kerry) then he will be very tough to unseat.

Regardless of his fund-raising successes, I don't think Dean has a chance. The party doesn't want to back him and the polls suggest the people prefer someone else. There's more to getting the party's nod than collecting the most money.

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PDiddie, just the tiniest disagreement here, but only as to your metaphor: Unseating Dean will be doubly difficult because they don't seem to have caught on to the fact that he doesn't sit, he moves. He's in constant motion. The energy coming out of that campaign is staggering after so many years of la-di-da campaigning on the part of both the Dems and the Reps.

Scrat, A lot of Dems -- a surprising number, I bet, maybe even many as there are Dean supporters -- are disassociating themselves from the national party and the DLC. Here's how it looks to me, today, July 29, '03: The Democratic Party is losing ground rapidly; Dean is gaining ground even more rapidly. There's a reckoning ahead -- both may lose, both may gain. We'll have to see.

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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

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