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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 03:34 pm
Aw, c'mon Bill, Nero would have been better...
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BillW
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jul, 2003 07:14 pm
He's dead..........................................hmmmmm, I guess you're right Smile
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 07:53 am
A take on Bush's grasp of the economy:



http://images.ucomics.com/comics/po/2003/po030717.gif
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 07:57 am
Lovely, horrible cartoon!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 08:31 am
a totally new version of "the buck stops here?"
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 08:38 am
Dubya as a pirate? He certainly was involved with baseball...
He's had more than three strikes against him but apparantly the ump is blind.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 08:46 am
Bill Mayer on his new HBO special just rakes him over the coals, not to mention others in the administration (Cheney is comedically and scathingly cut off at the knees). He didn't leave the Democrats alone either but his comparison of the "steamy turd" (Bill's words) lies politicians have told in the past and Clinton's measly "I did not have sex with that woman" certainly puts things in perspective. Of course, I still cringe at the male chauvinism existing in the stance Clinton took towards Monica. As if what she did was unusual in the halls of government and business (ever wonder what does on in the paneled offices of corporate CEO's?) Besides, someone has some serious lapses in their social intelligence when they assume someone like Monica would keep their mouth shut (sic).
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sweetcomplication
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 08:49 am
LW: yes, Maher has been quite candid; I believe that's what cost him to lose his show, Politically Incorrect, on ABC. Now, if we can just cause Shrub to lose his show, wouldn't that be loverly?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 08:56 am
It's a constant dog and pony show and the ringmaster (Fleischer) just quit. Dubya is the P. T. Barnum of Presidents -- give 'em a three ring circus so one can't concentrate on any one mistake. He also believes in the "sucker born every minute." It's snake oil government personified.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 09:16 am
I know people detest comparing GWBush to Hitler, but can anybody explain to me why? Hitler tried to chew more than he could bite, and GWBush is now talking about sending troops to Liberia when we don't even have enough troops to take care of Afghanistan and Iraq. Can't anybody see what's wrong with this picture? Can you just imagine what the commanders out in the field are going to tell their troops? Okay, guys, we're being transferred to Liberia, so you guys can't go home - ever! c.i.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 09:54 am
Always like what the wizard posts but take exception to the perception of Monica. Having been a (much less voluptuous) Monica in not dissimilar circumstances and at the same age, I can vouch for the fact that there are young women who will do a great deal to share the aura of a powerful man, particularly if she finds him attractive. The thrill of it all helps in the process of overlooking wives, protocol, and other standards of decency to feed the need to be noticed. That's doesn't exempt Bill, but it does make him (in my eyes) more of a silly middle-aged man in a tempting but avoidable situation. Both parties deserve a break, in my view!
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 11:47 am
Couldn't resist one more:




http://www.creators.com/0713/LK/LK0718bg.gif
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 12:04 pm
snood, What that cartoon doesn't show is that fifty percent of the tax break goes to the richest one percent. GWBush would rather see the rich get richer than take care of his mandates for Leave No Child Behind or Jobs for More Americans. c.i.
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BillW
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 12:29 pm
The Republicans portray it as a $455 billion pussycat - Smile
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 12:47 pm
Quote:
Did senior Bush officials blow the cover of a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security--and break the law--in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and intimidate others?
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?bid=3&pid=823



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Here's a modest proposal. Let's start a Coalition of the Rational to take back our country from this radical rightwing Administration. After all, these are times when true conservatives are as concerned as liberal Democrats about the damage being done to our democracy and international credibility as a result of manipulated intelligence, preemptive war policy and arrogant unilateralism.
http://www.thenation.com/edcut/index.mhtml?bid=7



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...The elements of a rapid fall are all in place. Like Lyndon Johnson during the Gulf of Tonkin, Bush may not have known he was lying at the time. Yet his entire Administration's policy was created to give him the answers he wanted, true or not. Now Tenet is under the gun. Next will be Powell. After that, maybe Rummy against Rice. Meanwhile, public approval of the President fell nine points in eighteen days, exactly mirroring the fall in support for his handling of Iraq.
The truth will set us free.
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030804&s=alterman
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 01:12 pm
Tartar, The only way I'm going to be "set free" is to lose this administration for good - immediately! c.i.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 01:22 pm
We shall overcome, Cisco.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 01:34 pm
Not going to be any money left to actually reward the American heroes that Dubya's garden variety platitudes extol. The lower taxes placebo isn't working -- it's actually prolonging the recovery in my opinion. It's also letting the extremely wealthy off the hook for backing up their claim of being good Americans -- moving their corporate wealth off shore and further depriving our heroes from their just do. The robber barons are alive an well in our modern society, they just manage to disguise themselves with more skill.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 01:42 pm
As for Bill and Monica, I've not saying this triviality is any more important that it is. There was a steamy novel written to become a best seller, "The Starr Report" -- written so we would all know every detail of a private affair. And please don't give me "but in the People's House" baloney -- the offices and boardrooms of the Corporations are owned by the stockholders. Wonder what goes on in those venues? More of the same -- only there is a protection system within big business executives that manage to shovel revelations about sexual daliances under the rug. I'm just saying Bill should have had the political and social intelligence to realize they were after him and he took the bait.

They're all politicians and the means to an end has to constantly be examined. I haven't seen the willy nilly press examing Bush with as much scrutiny as our past Presidents. Is it that they can't find anything or they aren't really looking? They don't want to be unpopular as they have TV shows, magazines and newspapers to sell. The administration, specifically Karl Rove, has mananged to make the "you are UnAmerican if you disagree with the President" stick pretty well. I think the glue is now beginning to fail.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jul, 2003 02:07 pm
I thought the theory that Bill is a risk taker, a characteristic of a kid who grew up in a family with alcoholism, made sense. It always seemed to me that he liked living on the edge, pushing the envelope, as some of his White House buddies said during the Monica mess. I've never seen Monica as a victim -- quite the opposite, in fact, whether she was a "plant" or not.

But I though I sometimes find the Bush official image puzzling (who'd ever fall for THAT!!), my sense is that one really first-rate piece of ridicule would bring him down. People don't cling very readily to a laughingstock.
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