AARP moves into the GOP column....
Yowza!
Although I believe Dean is the wrong man for the wrong time his actions in regard to the draft during WW2 were no different than that of almost everyone else called during that war. The other candidates, Kerry and Clark may make an issue of it but in my opinion it will get a "so What" response from the general public.
Sofia
Quote: AARP moves into the GOP column....
Yowza!
At the expense of the people they allegedly represent. My wife and I will no longer be members. Although we never availed ourselves of any of it's services we still religiously paid our dues Why, because I was under the mistaken belief that their hand was watching my back. Little did I know the were holding a knife in it.
Au--
You don't like the Medicaid Bill?
It gets a "so what" from me. It's very early yet and predictions about the outcome of the election are products of our various wishful thinking. But Bush's popularity is down and all we really have to do IMHO is give the man some rope.
It's too early to tell who the candidate witll be as well. It's all very interesting however.
Actually...it gets a 'so what' from me as well--> But, it completely negates Bush's blurry military record if Dean is the Dem nominee... :wink:
Sofia
Not at all. It is legislation in it's design that will be benefit to the insurance and pharmaceutical industries. Not those who it is supposed to aid, the seniors. If it is enacted it will be a step on the roadmap towards privatization of Medicare.
In effect it is legislation to serve the special interests of industry not the elderly.
Ref
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15347&highlight=&sid=c66196da1ac857687fc5fe193905c651
That's right au, I think the AARP decided to try to take what they could get for now........not knowing for sure what will happen next. But they're a long way from being in the Bush camp. Seniors aren't stupid, after all they have a lot of experience living. They can see that Bush is not interested in their welfare.
Lola
Yes, that is exactly what the AARP did. After all they are big players in the insurance industry.
http://www.moveon.org/Medicaresurveypr.pdf
Only 19 percent of voters 55 and older say Congress should pass the bill while 64 percent say Congress should keep working, no cigar so far.....
This 'new' Medicare bill forces seniors to join private health programs. We'll have to wait and see how it impacts the seniors who are covered in HMO's.
Under the guise and cover of giving prescription coverage to seniors. They have managed to start the privatization of Medicare. If the elderly believed that HMO's were the panacea they would have flocked to them before, it is after all far cheaper than purchasing supplemental coverage. Seniors have by a large percentage not chosen to do so.
I have been able to purchase it for myself and wife on a company plan for $3600/yr. It includes prescription drug coverage that is coverage not the abortion being jammed down our throats by those purchased lowlifes in congress. The ones who give the illusion of representing us.
House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi said yesterday that Democratic opposition to a Republican-backed Medicare prescription drug bill is "a party position," signaling an aggressive effort to unite the rank and file, scuttle the bill and claim credit with voters.
"This bill is wrong and when the public sees what's in this bill, I think it's going to be a negative to have voted for it," the California Democrat said in an interview between public appearances and private appeals designed to defeat the measure.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usmedi203551526nov20,0,796911.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines
Well, I'm over 55 and I won't vote for the scumbags. They haven't tricked this oldster, no siree.
hobitbob wrote:Hmmm...Ted Nugent, racist. homophobe, psychopath, draft dodger. Just the sort of man the republicans favour.
Yes, we know... all conservatives are all of those things.
Nugent is a great, caring, empathetic and intellectually sophisticated human, really quite similar to Desmond Tutu or the Pope in personality attributes. A role model, for sure.
Jeez -- It's become a habit of Congressional Republicans to hide the contents of a bill ("hey, we haven't quite finished it yet...") -- and then the full import is revealed once the damn thing is passed. If nothing else, that in itself should put off Republican voters, not to mention the rest of us. I've mentioned before a state legislator here in Texas who sponsored a bill he had never read and then was intensely embarrassed when he was asked about it on a talk show and didn't know its contents... (He was a Republican.)
If only we took these messy procedures seriously, we might stop crap like process which pushed the Medicare bill through the House. These are methods which, if we don't protest them, will be used over and over again.
And there's something else, on the news early this morning. The two soldiers killed in Iraq just now -- their throats were cut. I don't know about you, but that really stopped me in my tracks. It's so up close and personal. It shocks even more than the blowing up of a vehicle containing military personnel -- see even the variation in language. A pair of cut throats is the kind of thing that really brings war home. The Pentagon has cut in and said, No, they were shot. (And of course later, as so often, they will likely back away from the coverup, in small print.)
A good read:
(Click the image of the magazine cover to read the article)
