Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

Another example of the religious wierdos messing where they don't belong. I particularly worry at comment like (imagine southern accent): "We tuly believe we are the body of Christ."
Blacklist?

hobitbob: Sorry but I must be dense. how does that pertain to the topic at hand?

We've been discussing the influence the fundies have on the current crop of Republicans on this and several other threads for a while.

ragman, Is that really you? God, it's good to see you again. c.i. * all smiles

good to see you too. I lurk on A2K mostly...but I've been here off and on since lat Nov.

And now, here it is early November

I'll pretty much go along with that, though I'd alter it a bit to say "the influence of the fringies on both sides of the political aisle".

Oh, and Howdy, ragman ... good to see ya chippin' in. Wish you'd do more of it. Just holler if you'd like any help with the bells and whistles around this place. Enjoy.

TY timber. i will

That mention by Sofia of the Chicago vote in the 1960 election reminds me how, in my youth, I used to wonder about the vitriol some had for the Kennedys. This included when, mind you, JFK was president and soon after he was shot. I wasn't even a card-carrying left-wing kiddy then, so it's not as if my ox was being gored. I had a music teacher who filled my friend and me in on what an SOB Joe Kennedy had been. How they hated the whole clan! It was interesting.

Now that's mostly over with--the right wing can barely muster the energy to bash Ted anymore--but when it comes to the Clintons, oh look out! They can build up a great head of steam over him...

(Sorry if this is off topic; Sofia's post got me all nostalgic...)

Goodness, we need to stop this free speech nonsense before it gets out of control!

Are you implying that there was some kind of electoral chicanery in a Chicago election? That the results may have been tainted by corruption??? That is a slander, a malign calumniation, a false canard -- as false a canard as any canard can be. I can personally attest to the fact that I have never experienced any sort of irregularities in any Chicago election in which I have participated, and all of my deceased relatives who are currently registered straight-ticket Democrats would back me up on this.

Whew, for a second there I thought the Florida bunch was being justified - falsely, for sure........

There is no way in the world to justify that blatant attempt by The Dems
to subvert the constitutionally established electoral process by means of a cynical, partisan, self serving, arrogant effort to manipulate the judicial process. Glad you're finally coming to grips with reality. :wink:

Deserves no reply .....................

That was admitedly mean of me Bill ... but I just couldn't resist.

while much is made of the chicago "machine" in the Kennedy/Nixon election, far greater manipulation of the election came from LBJ's texas machine.

it was widely reputed that Nixon also "stuffed the ballot box" in 1960 elections, as well.

Not a Republican - no way..............

By whom? Source? Citation? ???

See, whad I tell ya...........