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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 08:08 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Yeah, timber, some of those 20 year olds are also married with families.


Yup. That is the way society's problems work. Sometimes bad things happen to good people despite the best of intentions, efforts, and achievements, and sometimes people make poor choices. Sometimes some people manage to qualify for both groups at once, and some people, for whatever reason, never get to another group. There's the element of the crapshoot which is a fact of life.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 08:22 pm
Lyndon Johnson had his Gulf of Tonkin
George W Bush has his WoMD
the lies are the same.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 01:14 am
timber, You're all heart.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 01:28 am
I'm just not a "Bleeding Heart", c.i.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 09:21 am
More drip, drip, drip, from Bush's base--the soldiers and veterans he has so badly jobbed. They're beginning to seep away:

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This subtle distancing of Republicans from Bush has begun to show up, locally and nationally, even among those conservative politicians who spent this administration's first two years hugging the president as if their political future depended solely on the strength of their grip. Rep. Walter B. Jones Jr, (R-N.C.), Jacksonville's man in Congress, has joined other pro-military conservatives in stepping out of line with House leaders and criticizing the administration's policies towards veterans; Jones has said the administration treats vets like "second-class citizens." Conservative Rep. Zach Wamp (R-Tenn.) and Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio) led vocal Republican opposition to the administration's $87 billion supplemental spending bill for Iraq in September, a move which found conservative allies from Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-Texas) to Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.). House majority whip Roy Blount (R-Mo.) has taken the administration to task over its troop-rotation policies.

A similar mood is emerging in small, patriotic towns around the country. According to a study conducted in mid-October by Stars and Stripes, half of American soldiers in-country say their units have low morale, that they were insufficiently trained, and that they won't reenlist. The ubiquity of email in Iraq means that husbands, wives, families, and friends of these troops have a mainline to these gripes, and to the day-to-day grit and threat of combat, that they haven't had in previous wars. Holly Rossi, whose husband, Rob, an Army reserve engineer out of Londonderry, N.H., has watched the Family Support Group for his unit, wives who started the war as staunch pro-Bush patriots, come to doubt the political mission. "A lot of people feel tugged. We have built our lives around ... patriotism no matter what, but we're feeling very abandoned." Charles Carter, a retired Naval chief petty officer, told Knight Ridder: "I will vote non-Republican in a heartbeat if it continues as is."


Corps Voters
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 11:53 am
timber, I'm wondering if you bleed at all?
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 11:57 am
Honestly, CI! Timber isn't a person. Timber is the machine in Poindexter's former office which they've been working on to take over PR functions for the Pentagon and, when needed, the Executive Office Building.

Sheesh! I thought you knew that!

(I still haven't figured out what the acronym, Timberlandko, stands for. Any ideas?)
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 12:00 pm
Tartar, Don't get me started on that! LOL
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 12:05 pm
Well, let's just agree that the crapshoot resulted in Timber, and that's a good reason to stop crapshoots.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 12:33 pm
Quote:
"I guess that next thing we are going to hear is that the sailors told him to wear the flight suit and prance around on the aircraft carrier."


-- Wesley Clark (a bonafide serviceman who served honorably in Viet Nam) on Bush's assertion that the sailors were to blame for the now-infamous USS Lincoln photo op banner.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 12:40 pm
Nice one, Wesley!! Very nice. PDiddie -- have you seen what looks to be a really interesting article on Clark in the NYRB? Or did I post a link and have forgotten?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 12:51 pm
Tart wrote:
(I still haven't figured out what the acronym, Timberlandko, stands for. Any ideas?)


The area I live in is known locally as "Timberland",

http://www.able2know.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10156/timberlandarrow.JPG


I own some timberland out by where County Highways K and O cross, and KO are my initials ... nothin' very odd about that. Poindexter ain't been around to visit, though.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 01:00 pm
timber, I now understand why many of us have difficulty in understanding what you say. You're so blurry!
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 01:09 pm
Well, the snapshot was from about 400 miles away, and the camera was moving at 17,000 MPH ... Mr. Green
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 01:21 pm
Just about your speed, heh, timber?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 01:51 pm
beginning with R Reagan, presidential elections have had far FAR more to do with personalities than with issues.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 02:54 pm
dys

Could we modify to say 'presentation of personalities'?
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 03:57 pm
And, don't forget the Kennedy election... Having to do with presentation of cash in Chicago.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 08:38 pm
By contemporary accounts, Lincoln had an "irritating" voice and a tendency toward facial ticks, along with an acknowledged disdain for the "fripperies of fashionable haberdashery". I imagine he'd have been electorally disadvantaged in the television age.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2003 09:00 pm
dyslexia wrote:
beginning with R Reagan, presidential elections have had far FAR more to do with personalities than with issues.


Blame the Hathaway shirt man.
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