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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2003 05:05 pm
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On September 28, The Washington Post reported that according "a senior administration official," that "two top White House officials" who may or may not have been Novak's source had called at least "six journalists" to reveal the identity and occupation of Wilson's wife. The Post story notes, "It is rare for one Bush administration official to turn on another" - suggesting the Post's source was disgusted with the leaker.


In the October 13 Newsweek, Andrea Mitchell is quoted as saying, "I heard in the White House that people were touting the Novak column and that was the real story." Newsweek also reported that Wilson had received a call from Chris Matthews, of MSNBC's "Hardball," who told him, "I just got off the phone with Karl Rove, who said your wife was fair game."
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20031010.html
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Mon 20 Oct, 2003 09:42 pm
Yes, I remember reading that somewhere too, Blatham. Apparently (since then) Matthews has refused to elaborate. The exact source of the stink may never be located, but the odor of this and so much else in the White House lingers.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2003 06:45 pm
A rather comical account of Bush's last flight as a pilot, from Elizabeth Mitchell's book W: Revenge of the Bush Dynasty and related by none other than Commerce Secretary Don Evans:

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"The guy didn't even know how to start the thing," Evans reportedly said. "That was a bad omen. Finally we get it started and roll down the runway, and he tries to take it straight up like a jet! We go into a stall, buzzers are going off. I say, 'Give it some gas!' We finally get it airborne, and he decides he better turn around and go back. I can tell he's nervous, but he says, 'Okay, Evvie, got it under control.' We come down and he lands half on the runway and half on the grass. And then he pats my leg and says don't worry, and he takes it up again. This time he's so scared he says, 'Hey, let's fly around Midland.' He had to get his confidence up.

Somehow we got back safely. He's never flown again."


More--much, much more--here.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2003 06:49 pm
The guy seems like a big fake; he wore that flight jacket when he boarded the aircraft carrier to give that rah-rah speech to the troops. Only if they knew the truth. LOL
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2003 08:25 pm
Drip, drip, drip...

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Dave Boyd, sipping a Busch Light in his lawn chair as Rep. Jim Leach (R-Iowa) approached, was troubled. As a production operator at an auto interiors shop in Iowa City, he worried about the Bush administration's bid to revamp the nation's overtime rules.

"I think it would cut into our income quite a bit," Boyd said of the plan, which would make some middle-income workers ineligible for overtime pay.

"I voted against it," replied Leach, who was attending the town's annual Columbus Day parade. "The theory of those who advocate it is that it gives management more flexibility." But "lots of people would be affected by it" negatively.

Until recently, few Republican lawmakers would be so quick to distance themselves from President Bush. But the president's approval ratings have fallen sharply since April, the nation's job growth remains sluggish and some Americans feel the nation is putting too much money -- and not enough wise planning -- into Iraq.


To Some in GOP, Bush's Troubles a Liability
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2003 08:34 pm
I don't know a whole lot about Jim Leach, but he's always made a good impression -- one of the good old guys in Congress. Well, not so old but of the generation where collegiality and compromise were important. Simpson, Bradley and many others. Lost. Neo-conned.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2003 10:15 pm
http://www.able2know.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10156/BushPoll.jpgLatest FOX Poll

What I find interesting here is that in the past month (since the 23-23 Sep 03 sample, Bush's lowest performance in this particular poll so far), not that he regained a couple points overall, but that he picked up 5 points among Democrats and 11 points among Independents. It must be noted too that this poll was taken before the Third Quarter Economic Data Release, which doubtless did Bush no harm. Next week's polls will reflect the influence of that development. I imagine both Tom Daschle and Terry McAuliffe are somewhat less comfortable now than they were 4 weeks ago.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2003 11:38 pm
What I find interesting is that off all the figures helpfully backgrounded in yellow, the lowest are the two most recent. I imagine George and Carl are somwhat less comfortable than they've ever been before. Well, other than the whole mirror thing in the morning.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 08:07 am
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About 12 million American families last year worried that they couldn't afford to buy food, and 32 percent of them actually experienced someone going hungry at one time or another, the Agriculture Department said Friday.

It was the third year in a row that the department has seen an increase in the number of households experiencing hunger and those worried about having enough money to pay for food.
http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2003/10/31/hunger/index.html
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 09:15 am
If one were to assume (and I don't) that Bush were to play it straight for the next ten months, what his numbers are or aren't would tell us very little about the election outcome. What is increasingly important is how the Dems go after him -- in what language, over what issues, with what degree of cooperation, how they handle the media, etc. etc.

This doesn't take into account "dirty tricks" on the part of the administration -- to expect them to play clean is about as realistic as expecting them to convert to Islam. Even so, I think the ball is in the Dems' court.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 09:40 am
Tart wrote:
the ball is in the Dems' court

Yup. Just like it was in '72. And it looks to me as though they're using the same playbook.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 09:54 am
timber

Just for the sake of efficiency...I propose you simply begin all posts with 'Boy, is this ever like 1972'. Just paste it in each time.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 11:30 am
Yeah, timber, why don't you make that your signature line? LOL
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 12:53 pm
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Bush in Better Shape Than Most Recent Presidents at This Stage

The Associated Press
Nov 1, 2003
AP-ES-11-01-03 1223EST


President Bush's overall job approval rating was at 53 percent in the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. Except for his father in 1991, Bush is the only president since John F. Kennedy with a job approval above 50 percent at this point in his term.
The public tends to like Bush personally and back his efforts fighting terror, but has growing doubts about his handling of other issues like the economy and Iraq.

A look at presidents over the past four decades, including what year the poll was taken, what happened to the presidents afterward and their job approval rating in Gallup polls at this time of year:

-Democrat John F. Kennedy, 1963, (assassinated before 1964 election): 58 percent

-Democrat Lyndon Johnson, 1967 (did not seek second full term): 41 percent

-Republican Richard Nixon, 1971 (won re-election in 1972 over George McGovern in landslide): 49 percent [/b]

Reblican Gerald Ford, 1975 (narrowly lost race to Democrat Jimmy Carter in 1976): 44 percent

-Carter, 1979 (lost re-election in 1980 to Ronald Reagan by a substantial margin): 32 percent

-Republican Ronald Reagan, 1983 (won re-election in 1984 over Walter Mondale in landslide): 49 percent

-Republican George Bush, 1991 (lost re-election in 1992 to Democrat Bill Clinton): 59 percent

-Clinton, 1995 (won re-election in 1996 over Bob Dole by substantial margin): 49 percent

-George W. Bush, 2003, (running for re-election): 53 percent

Story




Mr. Green :wink: Laughing

Note ... I don't dismiss that Daddy B was an exception. We'll see. The thing about history is ya gotta be patient.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 01:01 pm
blatham, I find it interesting that timber is able to gloss over your post, "Quote:
About 12 million American families last year worried that they couldn't afford to buy food, and 32 percent of them actually experienced someone going hungry at one time or another, the Agriculture Department said Friday.

It was the third year in a row that the department has seen an increase in the number of households experiencing hunger and those worried about having enough money to pay for food."

More Americans are going hungry, but the repubs just don't give a damn, because GWBush has a high rating. UGH!
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 01:13 pm
Not only that, CI, but the jobless rate went up again significantly during the past quarter. But I've already raised this issue -- as a moral one -- with Timber some posts back and don't find him responsive. The rising Sargasso Sea lifts all moral obligations off the necks of the self-satisfied, I guess.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 02:24 pm
Yeah, but the repubs are bragging that the GDP went up 7.2 percent last quarter. I keep saying the important issue is the increase in jobs for a sustained economic recovery, so that some of those families who are unable to feed their families can again not worry about putting food on the table. Another problem is the increase in the uninsured for their health, and we're talking over 42 million Americans.
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Scrat
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 04:13 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Yeah, but the repubs are bragging that the GDP went up 7.2 percent last quarter. I keep saying the important issue is the increase in jobs for a sustained economic recovery, so that some of those families who are unable to feed their families can again not worry about putting food on the table. Another problem is the increase in the uninsured for their health, and we're talking over 42 million Americans.

We solve a problem, then you tell us, "No, it's this other problem that we have to worry about." We solve that, and you shift gears again.

(Sigh...) At least we're solving problems.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 07:20 pm
Look, the first-time-jobless claims figure for Oct. 30 fell for the fourth consecutive time. Regardless how many folks are unemployed, looking for work or not, the only way the number of unemployed CAN improve is for first-time claims to decrease.

The overall unemployment rate stood at 6.1% for the latest period. However, if only the population 20 years of age or older is considered, the figure is 5.5%, while further reducing the sample to those 25 or older brings unemployment to 4.9%, according to The Bureau of Labor Statistics While it sucks that its tough to find good work when you're young; A) It takes time for an individual to become established, and B) the economy encompasses a large number of jobs filled chiefly by extranationals, legal or otherwise, regardless the relationship of the wage level of that work to other work. Those are the pertinent facts. All the rest is nothing but spin, one way or another.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2003 07:41 pm
Yeah, timber, some of those 20 year olds are also married with families.
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