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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
Ethel2
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 10:17 am
gimme an "F"!
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 10:23 am
"Be the first one on the block....to have your boy come home in a box!!

And it's one, two, three, what're we fighting for?
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 10:39 am
And it's five six seven, open up the pearly gates,
We ain't got time to wonder why
Yippee, we're all gonna die.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 11:44 am
To a group that believes the end of the world is very close indeed,and that they will get zipped skyward to watch other people fight it out, violence and destruction are things to eagerly anticipate and precipitate, not prevent. The lunatics have not merely taken over the asylum, they have begun dismantling the walls!
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John Webb
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 02:55 pm
What is wrong with George Dubya? Unlike most Presidents and would-be Governors, it seems that actresses, call girls and even internes find him so comatose they won't go close enough to him for even the occasional groping? Drunk

Or could it be that more than one invasion a year is too much to handle? Rolling Eyes
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 03:59 pm
on oct 3rd 1991 Bill Clinton kicked off his campaign for president.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 06:01 pm
Oct 3, 1932 was the date Iraq officially became a sovereign state, by League of Nations Mandate. In 1929, The Kingdom of Yugoslavia was formed, amalgamting the regions of Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Croatia, Begonia, Herzegovina, and Macedonia. Its also Al Sharpton's birthday, the date of the Mogadishu "Blackhawk Down" debacle, the opening day of the Watergate Trial in 1974, the date of Italy's 1935 invasion of Ethiopia, the date of O.J.'s 1995 acquittal, and, according to legend, the date, in 2333 BC, of the establishment of the Kingdom of Korea.


Hmmmm .... mere coincidences? I think not :wink: Laughing :wink:
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 06:15 pm
Timber, only you would know. :wink:
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 06:46 pm
Laughing
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 06:48 pm
Adding to the very very lengthy fib count...
Quote:
The Bush administration's optimistic statements earlier this year that Iraq's oil wealth, not American taxpayers, would cover most of the cost of rebuilding Iraq were at odds with a bleaker assessment of a government task force secretly established last fall to study Iraq's oil industry, according to public records and government officials.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/05/international/middleeast/05OIL.html?hp
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 07:32 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Oct 3, 1932 was the date Iraq officially became a sovereign state, by League of Nations Mandate. In 1929, The Kingdom of Yugoslavia was formed, amalgamting the regions of Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Croatia, Begonia, Herzegovina, and Macedonia. Its also Al Sharpton's birthday, the date of the Mogadishu "Blackhawk Down" debacle, the opening day of the Watergate Trial in 1974, the date of Italy's 1935 invasion of Ethiopia, the date of O.J.'s 1995 acquittal, and, according to legend, the date, in 2333 BC, of the establishment of the Kingdom of Korea.


Hmmmm .... mere coincidences? I think not :wink: Laughing :wink:


Was also my parents wedding anniversary. 44 years.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 09:25 pm
More "compassionate Conservatism."Statue
Quote:
Phelps To Erect Matthew Shepard Monument
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

Posted: October 3, 2003 5:57 p.m. ET


(Casper, Wyoming) Anti-gay preacher Fred Phelps has announced intentions to erect a monument to Matthew Shepard the gay college student brutally murdered five years ago near Laramie.

But, the monument will be no memorial. Phelps says the monument would be 5 to 6 feet tall and made of marble or granite. It would bear a bronze plaque bearing the image of Shepard and have an inscription reading "MATTHEW SHEPARD, Entered Hell October 12, 1998, in Defiance of God's Warning: 'Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is abomination.' Leviticus 18:22."

The monument would be erected in downtown Casper, Shepard's home town.

Phelps has sent details of the monument to the city of Casper city council and there may be nothing the city can do to prevent it.

Phelps said he intends to put up the monument in City Park, already the location of a controversial statue of the Ten Commandments.

The Ten Commandments statue was donated to the city by the Fraternal Order of the Eagles in 1965.

After a court battle over a similar monument in the city of Ogden, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that any city that displays a Ten Commandments monument on public property must also allow monuments espousing the views of other religions or political groups on that same property.

Phelps told Casper council in his letter that if it attempts to prevent him from erecting the homophobic monument he's prepared to go to court.

"That is exactly what I said would happen," said Councilwoman Barb Watters. She said she warned the city when it accepted the Ten Commandments statue that the city risked other monuments advocating anti-Semitism and hatred of other minorities.

''I think the hate language will find a very cold reception in this community,'' councilor Paul Bertoglio said. ''I think this community's backbone is going to come up and say 'We are not going to accept it.'''

The city council is looking at several options, one is fighting Phelps in court, another is moving the Ten Commandments out of the park, and yet another proposal would be to sell the land the park is on.

Phelps says he doesn't care what the city decides. If he is unable to put the statue in City Park he said he will find another location in the city.

During Shepard's funeral members of Phelps' Westoboro Baptist Church demonstrated in front of the chapel.

©365Gay.com® 2003

These "crazies" have become very much the "mainstream" of the Republican party. If you don't believe me, look at the AG (Arsecroft) or the GOP's favourite son Tom DeLay. Does this scare anyone else? It scares the living daylights out of me! Shocked
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 09:29 pm
Lola,

Unemployment in the United States, including the long term structural type to which you referred, is a good deal less than that in Canada, France or Germany. Public debt here is also less than the EU average, and less than it was here during WWII and the Korean wars - both of which were followed by rapid economic expansions. On what basis do you suggest we are doing badly?

I do not attempt to exuse Arnold's sexual adventures or even compare their moralty to those of Bill Clinton. I was commenting only on the attempts of some Clinton protagonists here to wiggle through that thicket.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 09:37 pm
hobitbob wrote:
More "compassionate Conservatism."Statue
Quote:
Phelps To Erect Matthew Shepard Monument
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

Posted: October 3, 2003 5:57 p.m. ET


(Casper, Wyoming) Anti-gay preacher Fred Phelps has announced intentions to erect a monument to Matthew Shepard the gay college student brutally murdered five years ago near Laramie.

But, the monument will be no memorial. Phelps says the monument would be 5 to 6 feet tall and made of marble or granite. It would bear a bronze plaque bearing the image of Shepard and have an inscription reading "MATTHEW SHEPARD, Entered Hell October 12, 1998, in Defiance of God's Warning: 'Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is abomination.' Leviticus 18:22."

The monument would be erected in downtown Casper, Shepard's home town.

Phelps has sent details of the monument to the city of Casper city council and there may be nothing the city can do to prevent it.

Phelps said he intends to put up the monument in City Park, already the location of a controversial statue of the Ten Commandments.

The Ten Commandments statue was donated to the city by the Fraternal Order of the Eagles in 1965.

After a court battle over a similar monument in the city of Ogden, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that any city that displays a Ten Commandments monument on public property must also allow monuments espousing the views of other religions or political groups on that same property.

Phelps told Casper council in his letter that if it attempts to prevent him from erecting the homophobic monument he's prepared to go to court.

"That is exactly what I said would happen," said Councilwoman Barb Watters. She said she warned the city when it accepted the Ten Commandments statue that the city risked other monuments advocating anti-Semitism and hatred of other minorities.

''I think the hate language will find a very cold reception in this community,'' councilor Paul Bertoglio said. ''I think this community's backbone is going to come up and say 'We are not going to accept it.'''

The city council is looking at several options, one is fighting Phelps in court, another is moving the Ten Commandments out of the park, and yet another proposal would be to sell the land the park is on.

Phelps says he doesn't care what the city decides. If he is unable to put the statue in City Park he said he will find another location in the city.

During Shepard's funeral members of Phelps' Westoboro Baptist Church demonstrated in front of the chapel.

©365Gay.com® 2003

These "crazies" have become very much the "mainstream" of the Republican party. If you don't believe me, look at the AG (Arsecroft) or the GOP's favourite son Tom DeLay. Does this scare anyone else? It scares the living daylights out of me! Shocked


Scares me. The thought of nutcases like this having an influence on decisions concerning the most powerful military on earth is terrifying.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 09:43 pm
Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Knight-Ridder's Washington bureau wrote:
In a sharp reversal, Republicans who just months ago daydreamed about a 2004 election landslide now worry that President Bush is losing control of events at home and abroad and faces a real chance of leading the party to defeat.

At home, anxiety about the economy is escalating and respect for Bush is sinking. His domestic agenda has stalled in Congress.

Abroad, troubles in Iraq and Afghanistan have eroded Bush's traditional Republican advantage on foreign policy. His calls for international help in Iraq have gone unanswered. And in both countries, Americans continue to die in guerrilla attacks.

There is time, of course, for both situations to improve, and with them Bush's prospects. But for now, Bush has work to do avoid his father's fate: defeat after one term.

Complicating matters for Bush is the possibility of a full-blown scandal involving allegations that someone in his White House revealed the identity of a CIA officer out of political spite at the officer's spouse. The ensuing political firestorm, not to mention the Justice Department investigation, could further hurt Bush's standing.


Republicans unsure of Bush's chances for 2004 election

...or is that "drip, drip, drip"...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 09:58 pm
PDid, On Night Line last night, several ex-CIA agents, all republicans, said that what this administration did in releasing the name of a CIA agent was unforgiveable. They said the release of this agent's name to the public endangered many lives, including those in other countries who have worked undercover to help our intelligence. They said the release of the CIA's name in effect wrote a death warrant for those that worked with this agent. I'm only surprised that there is not more outrage in this country at what this administration has done.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 10:15 pm
Another example of our president's stunning intellectual abilities:Pinhead Poet
Quote:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Laura Bush says her husband is a poet even if, uh, Americans don't know it.

At a gala Friday night kicking off this weekend's third National Book Festival, Mrs. Bush celebrated the written word in an age of visual media, thanking American authors for their "tales of mystery, history and heroism."

"A good book is like an unreachable itch; you just can't leave it alone," she said at the Library of Congress, repository of 126 million books, recordings, photographs, maps, manuscripts and more.

She revealed that President Bush had penned a poem for her when she got back from a five-day solo trip to Europe, where she attended a book festival in Moscow and visited France -- getting two kisses on the hand from French President Jacques Chirac.

"President Bush is a great leader and a husband, but I bet you didn't know he is also quite the poet," she said. "Upon returning home last night from my long trip I found a lovely poem waiting there for me."

As her husband watched quietly, she recited it.

"Roses are red/Violets are blue/Oh my, lump in the bed/How I've missed you."

Bush sometimes refers to his wife as a lump in the bed.

Mrs. Bush went on:

"Roses are redder/Bluer am I/Seeing you kissed by that charming French guy."

And then the finale:

"The dogs and the cat, they missed you too/Barney's still mad you dropped him, he ate your shoe/The distance, my dear, has been such a barrier/Next time you want an adventure, just land on a carrier."

Barney the dog had a tumble when Mrs. Bush was handing him to her husband on a tarmac.

James H. Billington, the librarian of Congress, called Mrs. Bush "first reader of our land" for her work on behalf of literacy and reading. The first lady is a former librarian and teacher, and the book festival is modeled after those she started in Texas when her husband was governor.

"Stories beckon us to toss all the cares in the world -- work, even sleep -- to read and discover," she said.

Novelist Tom Clancy, Cherokee storyteller Gayle Ross, nonfiction author and novelist Stephen L. Carter, CBS newsman Bob Schieffer and actress Julie Andrews, who writes children's books, joined Mrs. Bush in launching the festival.

Should we be more disgusted with the idiocy of the self proclaimed leader of the free world, or the idiocy of his staff who released the story? And people wonder why I'm embarassed to be an American..... Confused
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 10:43 pm
Quote:
I do not attempt to exuse Arnold's sexual adventures or even compare their moralty to those of Bill Clinton. I was commenting only on the attempts of some Clinton protagonists here to wiggle through that thicket.

george

I recognize that you are not referring to me in the quote above as I only swagger through thickets (through thinets, I cavort or, if a spring-like mood is upon me, I tresspass).

Sex, as dirty and unexcuseable an undertaking as any that might be undertaken by some according to others is, to my mind, as dirty and fully excuseable an undertaking as any I might undertake. It is MY responsibility to further the species. I understand this. I acknowledge this. I put my shoulder to the wheel and give it all I've got.

Now, as to Billy and Arnie, what is there to be said? Nothing. We concur on this and we are right, though we note in passing that Arnie holds a different view, believing there is lots to be said, and so he said a lot, and we ought to grant him a point for consistency here.

If you're keeping close track, the count so far is... you and I each have a point for nothing, and Arnie has a point for consistency. So far, we're tied.

But as I mentioned earlier, we are doomed, and so it seems prudent to get to the tie-breaker round smartly.

It doesn't look good for me here. My team has a few feminists and Jennifer Flowers' orgasms and some leftie professors with elbow patches and reserved parking spaces in Lot A. Meagre, bloody meagre. But looking over at your team...my god in bloody heaven, what an array is to be witnessed! Up front, clamboring for the fight, Rush on a pallinquin carried aloft by many Rushians (he is, true, being carried in the wrong direction, but there's a drugstore elsewhere). And with breastplate and breasts to plate, Ann Coulter, shrieking shrieking shrieking. The entire state of Texas is there, with marching band (cut to view from blimp...they form into a humvee then a ten gallon then a Mapplethorpe photo CUT TO CAMERA ONE!). And shining down from above, Ken Starr.

Game your side.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 11:30 pm
Its a bit premature to cede the victory yet, blatham; the score may be something like 178-to-nothing, or thereabouts, but there's a full quarter left to go, and the ball's been handed off to your team once again. They can't fumble on every play, can they?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2003 11:37 pm
Wilso wrote:
Was also my parents wedding anniversary. 44 years.


AHA! So you ADMIT to being part of The Conspiracy! We've got you now!

Seriously, though ... congrats to your folks. Stayin' married is a tough job. To do it for 44 years is a helluva big accomplishment, with or without a kid like you Twisted Evil Give 'em my best wishes, would ya?
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