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Coup in Turkey!

 
 
Lash
 
Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 02:21 pm
Can't beat Twitter, man.

I'll be back when the MSN picks it up.
 
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 02:30 pm
@Lash,

Turkey coup: military attempt to seize power from Erdogan as low flying jets
and gunfire heard in Ankara and bridges across Bosphorus in Istanbul closed
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 02:57 pm
@Region Philbis,
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/287973-coup-attempted-in-turkey
Thanks, Reege!

Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 03:06 pm
@Lash,
It seems all of the 24 hr news channels are reporting now.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 04:31 pm
@Baldimo,
Yep. My kid has friends on the ground who've been sending him streaming video for a few hours, and he was disseminating the information, but couldn't back it up with links because the MSM didn't have it for an hour or so.

The footage is so surreal but haven't seen anything violent except a helicopter shooting in the dark at what is suspected as a national security facility.

New info: "Erdogan fanatics" are fighting in the streets.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 04:34 pm
@Lash,
My kid just saw a group of protesters mowed down by machine gun.

This may be on MSM now: Germany refused Erdogan asylum.
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 04:48 pm
The non-violent portion of the coup is definitely over.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 05:39 pm

God bless the coup plotters.

I hope that whoever captures Erdogan has the wisdom to instantly kill him. Kadaffy is the model here.

Yes, I know that Erdogan belongs on trial at the Hague. But far more important to ensure that he does not succeed in countering the coup and returning to power.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 06:11 pm
@oralloy,
That's what my kid says - yay coup - but alas. It has failed.
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giujohn
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 08:26 pm
@oralloy,
It wouldn't have failed if we had the correct people in charge at the CIA instead of these politically-correct, feckless, pantywaists
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 10:48 pm
@giujohn,
All democratic parties, including the pro-Kurdish, supported the Turkish president and government.

(But the largest group of recognised asylum seekers in Germany are Turkish, mainly Kurds, 12,000 out of 40,000.)
saab
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 11:12 pm
At least 60 died and at least 336 have been arrested. Erdogan will see to very hard punishment for the people involved.
saab
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 11:20 pm
@saab,
According to a Swedish paper 774 military have been arrested.
EU is supporting Erdogan as his government is democraticly elected.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2016 11:39 pm
@saab,
I can't speak Turkish but just watch the tv-channels from Turkey live, seems the military in Istanbul has surrendered, but a few fights are still going on in Ankara. (And that's what other, non-Turkish, sources report as well.)
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2016 12:12 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
EU is supporting Erdogan as his government is democraticly elected.

Not a good decision. The "democracy" in Turkey is about like the "democracy" in Russia (i.e. not even remotely a democracy). And Erdogan is a horrible war criminal who has massacred countless innocents.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2016 12:17 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
All democratic parties, including the pro-Kurdish, supported the Turkish president and government.

Self preservation. There would have been plenty of time for them to support the coup if it had succeeded.

If they had supported the coup prematurely, they would be tied to a chair right now watching their children be tortured.
roger
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2016 12:19 am
@oralloy,
What if the coup had succeeded? Would that have been better, or worse.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2016 12:49 am
@roger,
Much better. Exchanging "a brutal dictatorship that pretends to be a democracy" for "a benevolent dictatorship that admits to being a dictatorship" is a good bargain.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2016 12:56 am
@oralloy,
I don't know if an Islamistic rule would have been better.
But who knows, since the G├╝len-supporting part of the Turkish army doesn't seem to have succeeded.

One of the few positive benefits of the autocrat Erdogan was to prune the power of army.
A coup is merely the proof that parts of the Turkish society are unable to cope democratically with the authoritarianism of Erdogan.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2016 03:45 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Kadaffy is the model here.
yeh, hows that working out for you?
 

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