Is Zell Miller Suffering from a Mental Disorder?

Ah, passive aggression . . . ya gotta love it . . .

I don't think it was very passive.

george

Could you tell me what you know of Richard Mellon Scaife? No cheating.

Sit down kids, it's time for the Tedium Chronicles...

LOL!

shhh...grownups are talking.

<raises hand>
Can I go to the bathroom?

Yes. Wash your hands.

But you can relax, I won't get into Scaife's history. It was a question to george to see if he actually knew much about the fellow.

George and timber, yourself, fox, some of the brighter republicans here really seem to me to be without a lot of current knowledge about the party they support.

Are you familiar with Clint Bollick? Any one of you? Or Frank Luntz? Or David McIntosh? What could you tell me of Grover Norquist's regular meetings...when are they held? who's there? What Ralph Reed is up to presently?

Errors of fact? Illogical conclusions? At least I know what the Republicans are up to.

No Blatham I don't know Schaife or any of his writings. I take it from the context of your posts that he is likely to be a Republican or right wing commentator or something like that. Does my ignorance in this instance invalidate any of the opinions I have expressed and some of which wde have discussed (and disputed)? We see and interpret several contemporary issues differently, and I know you think some (just a few) of my ideas and perspectives are wrong. However, are they wrong because I have not read any of those whom you have cited?

I think he's the Republican answer to the Dem moneychanger George Soros, georgeob1.

Actually mine was a shitty little comment, and I apologize for it.

I disagree with you on many points and our points of view are very different - a rather daunting gap -

Oh! A prominent member of the vast right wing, evangelical conspiracy, no doubt. Probably uses his money and position to influence public attitudes too. Good thing Democrats don't do that.

george

There are a number of issues or policies on which we have different notions, it is true. Yet I think we could probably sit down and hammer out some fundamental agreements on many of them, perhaps most. Any argument you've made for your various positions stand on their own.

But what I'm suggesting here is that your party has changed more than you know. Many of the key individuals involved, and what they have done and are doing within your party, fall well below the radar of typical news reporting.

As convinced as I am that you and I would have some trouble hammering out agreements but could do so in many cases, to that degree I am convinced that you would not be happy if you had more knowledge regarding this stuff.

sofia's reply is a demonstration that, though she has some idea of who Scaife is, it is superficial. But her comparison with Soros, and her use of the term 'money changer' (bad greedy jew) demonstrates where she's 'learned' about Soros' activities.

Heh, heh, I'll bet some here think George Bush leads the Republican Party.....

he goes way back, way before soros. stoneage nixon era. a bizzare fellow. but has a lot of cash.

i'll let blatham "kerry"on. i have to leave for a big honkin' kegger with a bunch from the local german community. with a bunch of real germans, to boot.

willsing!

For the record, "jew" didn't enter into my definition of moneychanger. Again, blatham, you are really stretching. How you imply an ethnic slur on my part, and divine my reading material or newscast choices from one word is preposterous.

I am unaware of Soros' ethnicity.

Exactly, Sophie, we have recently attacked a nation unfairly. I'm so glad you recognize this.

I don't believe that this Republican government was worried about safety or security when it mattered... at the time that they took over from the Clinton adminstration, so I scoff at this Johnny-come-lately attitude. Your pants were down in 2001, you don't have to go back to WWI to find that.
Who's pants were down? If Clinton could have kept his up, he may have dealt with Bin Laden--but this needn't be a partisan exercise in stupidity. Its not about Bush, Democrats, Clinton or Republicans. We could discuss it without all the partisan trappings--how about just national defense and healthcare--without all the fireworks?

The question is, was W told of Usama? THe answer is yes. Was W. worried about Usama bin Laden? Not until the planes ran into those buildings.

But if you want to get back to national defense (DEFENSE... not OFFENSE) How much do you think we spend on our military? It's over 340 BILLION dollars. Could some of that be spent on national health care? Yes or no. If we were all healthy, we'd be much better at defending ourselves.




Sophie -- Our National Guard has been deployed by your hero.



And we are certainly MUCH worse off than we were four years ago.



We are not the richest country on earth. We borrow the most and we use the most. There are very, very wealthy people who live here, but the fact is the difference between their lives and the lives of everyone else grows further and further apart. Every economic indicator shows that we have lost ground during the last four years except for the pocket books of the very wealthiest Americans. The stock market is down, there are fewer jobs, the average wage is down, the costs of goods is up. Where do you see something good in this? I repeat, we are on the skids and headed down. And the sad thing is... the wealthy people who are Republicans don't give a damn. They've got it... and screw everyone else.

A malpracticing doctor should and will be stopped. Awarding someone 50 million dollars is why we are in such a fix with healthcare. Sue him--but put a sane cap on it. The other countries that provide healthcare are in deep economic trouble. It is a drain on a country's resources that cannot be borne for long. There is a smarter, better way.

I don't care about having a cap on lawsuits but I repeat, that is NOT what is making our health costs rise. What is making our health costs rise is all the new and different treatments... all the new and remarkable advances in medicine, in diagnosis machines and all the new and varied health-care staff who want and get a high-level wage.



Nobody wants "adequate" care. Everybody wants great care and that does take more trained people who are specialized for various jobs.



<shrug> Those costs are high, but you can't blame it all on lawsuits and lawyers. Everything in our economy has been inflated except for regular people's wages. Those have flattened or dropped.

If we can pay 200,000 guys to fight in the Mideast and pay for all their transportation costs, state-of-the-art communications and equipment, medical care, war machines, salaries and training, insurance and death benefits, then why is this same government totally unable to train and hire 200,000 people to work as health professionals?