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Mon 9 May, 2016 06:46 pm
I hate the man, not a chance Id vote for him, but Im having a blast listening to him throw all the GOP's catch phrases in their face like "true conservatism." I have to laugh at the guy anf give him a fist bump for his BS, but not for Prez...just as an SNL actor on the stage or a parady of presidents like the cartoon, "Lil Bill." Ahahahaha!
This puts me in mind of the French elections in 2002, when the odious Le Pen suddenly became a serious contender, much like Trump.
A large proportion of the French population despised Chirac, and considered him a self centred, money grasping politician who would even make Blair seem almost respectable, and who would never normally vote for him. Ever.
Faced with the prospect of either having the sleazy Chirac in power, or the fascist Le Pen, French voters held their noses and voted for Chirac.
There were even polling stations where disgusted voters set up mock sheep dip disinfectant trays outside, so that voters could ceremonially cleanse themselves after putting their mark next to Chirac.
Interesting days indeed.
@Lordyaswas,
I am very surprised at the very respectable people I hear that are going to vote Trump. Most are extremely disgusted with Washington thanks mostly to Obama and congress.
@roger,
Quote:Indeed, we have no such right in regard to any candidate. Our only right is to express ourselves on election day
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Not the point. There are two points. The first one is that he said in 2012 if was running he wouldn't hesitate to show his tax returns. He is running and he refuses to show his tax returns. He lied. Second point, since he refuses to show his tax returns, he can't very well challenge Hillary to show her speech transcripts.
@revelette2,
I didn't know about the first, and the second is obviously true.
@Brand X,
Once his audit is complete. He can do it legally now anyway, this way he can stretch it out as long as he wants.
Quote:Actually, as someone who saw Trump’s federal tax returns about a decade ago as part of a legal action in which he sued me for libel (the suit was later dismissed), I think there probably are some things to be learned from them.
The tax returns my lawyers and I reviewed were sealed, and a court order prevents me from speaking or writing about the specifics of what I saw. I can say that Trump routinely delayed -- for months on end -- producing those documents, and when they finally arrived they were so heavily redacted that they looked like crossword puzzles. The litigation ran on for five years, and during that time we had to petition the court to compel Trump to hand over unredacted versions of the tax returns -- which he ultimately did.
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@revelette2,
There is nothing preventing him from releasing his tax returns from over 5 years ago. Clinton has released the last 33 years of her returns.
The IRS suggests you keep 3 years of returns unless you have committed fraud when filing. Trump claims his last 4-5 years are being audited.
@revelette2,
1. Has the election happened?
2. Has the audit ended?
As long as the answer to either is no then you don't know whether he will release the records or not. You claim he isn't going to, you don't know.
@Brand X,
Trump has claimed he isn't going to.
@engineer,
He just Tweeted this yesterday.
'In interview I told @AP that my taxes are under routine audit and I would release my tax returns when audit is complete, not after election!'
So from that it appears he expects to release before the election. We'll see.
@parados,
Quote:There is nothing preventing him from releasing his tax returns from over 5 years ago. Clinton has released the last 33 years of her returns.
Which proves what? She is still a liar, a criminal and an incompetent who filed her tax returns?
@woiyo,
at least she is not skirting the requirements with some bullshit excuse .
@Brand X,
Quote:1. Has the election happened?
2. Has the audit ended
As long as the answer to either is no then you don't know whether he will release the records or not. You claim he isn't going to, you don't know.
I said he can stretch out the audit excuse as long as he wants. He still said as long as the audit is done. He can legally release his tax returns even under audit.
@revelette2,
You said, 'He is running and he refuses to show his tax returns. He lied. Second point, since he refuses to show his tax returns, he can't very well challenge Hillary to show her speech transcripts.'
But he isn't refusing, he's just not releasing them on your terms or anyone elses.
@Brand X,
You really need to follow the post in sequence. I said he refuses when I didn't know he changed (sort of) his mind about releasing them. When he releases his tax returns, including the ones being audited, since it is not against the law to release them while they are being audited, then perhaps he can challenge Hillary to release her speech transcripts. Lets finish the traditional hurdle before creating new ones just for Hillary.